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SOL Hall of Fame - Stories and Authors

1111

SOL has provided me countless hours of reading pleasure and over the years I've come across so many excellent writers and stories. I've been trying to figure out an objective way of recognizing them, I know the Clitorides Awards do a great job, but it seems too limited, judging the best output every year only. Classics stand the test of time, and I'll admit to reading and re-reading Al Steiner's "Aftermath" or Don Lockwood's "Dance of a Lifetime" or hammingbyrd's "The Preacher Man" and some more at least once a year. I tried once to list the best and most memorable stories I'd read on SOL and stopped after I written down twenty titles from memory, without even having to reference the site. It was a great exercise, by the way, bringing back all the memories and feeling associated with each story or series.

Hey Lazeez, would you consider setting up the SOL Hall of Fame? Like the Clit Awards, readers get to list or nominate their top 5 stories and top 3 authors, all from the SOL database regardless of category or currency, and the rest will get to vote in a regular number of stories and authors into the SOL Hall of Fame.

I know the Clit Awards are very helpful in pointing out the outstanding stories every year and help hook in many new readers, I think the SOL Hall of Fame will do the same also but will draw from a larger pool of stories and authors. When it's sufficiently populated, we can start breaking them into categories at a later stage.

Comments and views anyone?

Chris aka 1111

demunics2

I would actually like this very much. The only problem though for me, it seems that the top authors with classic stories, have a very limited collection of stories on their profile.

Let us compare that to top authors in hall of fame on for example, literotica. There they usually have countless stories on their profile. It does somewhat piss me off too, since literotica treat their authors like shit. Maybe offering an incentive or advertising this site a bit more would fix that. I do not know if it is even legal, what about a share button for social media on stories?

I know some authors wont like that of course, but it would also offer authors a way to make money if the sites attracts more readers, so that authors do not have to take stories down and publish them, to then put them back up again. The stories where you have to be a member only to read would be a way. Making that option easily obtainable would be more lucrative for authors.

The last thing I would like to mention is it would be nice to have a variety of genres when it comes to the hall of fame. Not only the stories, but authors too. Some authors are more known for a specific genre than others.

Hope I am not too out of line in mentioning these things, but I am definitely more of a fan when it comes to this site than any other erotica site out there. Simply because authors do not get shit on for being creative and writing whatever they want to.

Replies:   1111
ustourist

There is already an 'Authors Favourites' list available from the home page, which is a narrower version of a readers choice, plus the lists of top scores, downloads etc. Surely ten categories are enough to include most of the top stories/authors - and that is ignoring the lists only available to premier members. If visitors can't be bothered to look at those and visit the other links to past years Clitorides awards or other sites, then they probably aren't discerning enough to appreciate good writing anyway.
If someone is that much of a reader, then part of the pleasure is searching through the site for hidden gems which probably wouldn't appear on a 'Hall of Fame' list anyway. There are a lot of ways to explore the site available to non premier readers and any sort of 'Hall of Fame' tends to be an indication of popularity, not quality. The Clitorides is effectively an annual 'Hall of Fame' list, and some categories have few or no entries. I feel any additional list would mainly end up being duplicates of those already appearing elsewhere.

REP

SOL Hall of Fame sounds like a good idea to me. Other than the time and effort to set up a system for nominating and voting, I don't see a downside to it. It may have a few positive benefits, also:

1) Attract new members.

2) Authors may be less likely to pull stories if recognition is a function of the stories they write, and pulling a story, reduces the 'points' basis for the nomination and thus an author's current overall standing.

3) Voting by Premier Members only could be an incentive for converting Free Memberships to Premier Memberships.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@1111

Hey Lazeez, would you consider setting up the SOL Hall of Fame?


I have on my to-do list 'Shared story lists' for reader, which allows any reader to build and curate a favorite stories list (like the one by authors). Data from that can be reused for a 'hall of fame' of sorts.

Crumbly Writer

Another big problem with the Clitorides, is that due to troubles financing and maintaining the site, it rarely posts each year, so many deserving artists never even got a chance to be nominated (i.e. the year their story completed, the Clitorides wasn't open, something purely beyond their control).

While the Clitorides is nice for discovering stories you missed, I've stopped paying much attention to it (though it's gotten more consistent lately).

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Crumbly Writer

Another big problem with the Clitorides, is that due to troubles financing and maintaining the site, it rarely posts each year,


That was my fault. I took over the clitorides in 2007 and failed to finish the nomination management system until 2013. I had an ambitious system in mind that turned out too difficult to implement. In 2013 I readjusted my goals for it and managed to build something that works well enough to be reliable.

Now that it's finished and it's been fully functioning for the last three years. From now on, the clitorides will be awarded every year. I'll make sure to keep it going.

Although, I need some help getting other sites to promote it to their members in order for it to fulfil its original purpose. For now, it's dominated by SOL stories simply because I push it to our readers every year.

It would be good if other sites like Literotica and other erotica sites mention it to their readers.

Replies:   Crumbly Writer
Crumbly Writer

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Although, I need some help getting other sites to promote it to their members in order for it to fulfil its original purpose. For now, it's dominated by SOL stories simply because I push it to our readers every year.

You'll have a hard time getting an original contributor, ASSTR, involved, as their site's administrators have been MIA for some time. They're presumable still there, maintaining the site, but they haven't responded to posts or posted any updates in several years.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater

@Crumbly Writer

ASSTR, involved, as their site's administrators have been MIA for some time.


Some of the original admins are no longer with us, and a few others are so tied up with real life they can't do much on it now. I think there's only 1 or 2 still active, but between everything else they don't get much time to do anything more than approve new accounts.

Replies:   richardshagrin
richardshagrin
Updated:

@Ernest Bywater

Here is the latest news from ASSTR:

"News

2016-02-19

We fixed a problem with the ReCaptcha verification not working with certain web browsers, including Google Chrome. You should now be able to submit author feedback, account applications, help requests, etc. regardless of web browser.

2015-02-02

At this point, we believe the previously mentioned site issues should be resolved. If you continue to experience any issues, please let us know."

So there is life on the other planet, but not especially active life.

Replies:   Crumbly Writer
Crumbly Writer

@richardshagrin

So there is life on the other planet, but not especially active life.

Without new volunteers, and people willing to take over the reigns, any site will eventually fold.

Sometimes I worry about what'll happen to SOL if Lazeez ever suffers a sudden heart attack. (Watch the fattening foods, Laz!)

1111

@demunics2

{The only problem though for me, it seems that the top authors with classic stories, have a very limited collection of stories on their profile}

Quantity shouldn't be a criterion for sure. Among my favourites are Magestic and K2 by gwresearch, his only two stories on SOL but outstanding nevertheless.

Chris aka 1111

Replies:   Crumbly Writer
Crumbly Writer

@1111

The only problem though for me, it seems that the top authors with classic stories, have a very limited collection of stories on their profile

Often, that's because of their chose style of writing. It's long been recognized that prolonged serials score better than shorter stories, and many of these authors wrote 50+ stories, often ending with them only posting every month or two.

On the other hand, those that restrict themselves to shorter stories may not have the same reception, but they often survive to write another day.

In general, the longer the story, the more chances to reveal your character's motivations, drives and softer sides, which makes them more endearing. Plus, after that many chapters, readers get hooked, wanting to know how it finally ends.

Replies:   red61544
1111

Something just popped into my mind just now. Well and good that there are 'awards' for best authors and best stories in the various categories and sub-categories. There's no recognition for story series, regardless of whether there's only the original or multiple authors.

Stories within series are less likely to stand out but nevertheless are part of a fascinating world or universe from which adherents or followers derive great satisfaction. Gotta have rules so how about a minimum of three stories to qualify.

So from me the nominees for single author series -
1. Argon - The Anthony Carter Universe
2. Tony Stevens - Take Me Out To The Ballgame Series
3. Wes Boyd - any of his wonderful series of stories

Nominees for series with multiple authors -
1. Damsels in Distress Universe - Lazlo Zalezac (originator)
2. Naked High Universe - Karen Wagner (originator)

I'm sure I can come up with more by the time the Clit Awards come around again

How about it?

Chris aka 1111

Crumbly Writer

@1111

I'm sure I can come up with more by the time the Clit Awards come around again

You'll have trouble with the Clit Awards, as you're limited by physical year. Thus any series created in a previous year, or any stories not posted in the current year, would be ineligible.

I suspect it's better to focus on a 'top series' list within SOL itself.

Replies:   sejintenej
red61544

@Crumbly Writer

Plus, after that many chapters, readers get hooked, wanting to know how it finally ends.

Crumbly, that can be a double-edged sword. There are several stories about which, after forty or fifty chapters, I've said "Enough is enough!" Some of them were pretty good stories, but not good enough to make me wait around for more. I think one of the hardest things for a new author is sticking to the plot line without adding extraneous crap that bogs the story down.

BlinkReader

@1111

Here are some other universes worth reading (and voting):

1. John Carter - from Lazlo Zalezac
2. Bec - Lost in maze - from BarBar

and one from two authors (Russell Hoisington and Wizard)- Wynter/Trailer Park

sejintenej

@Crumbly Writer

You'll have trouble with the Clit Awards, as you're limited by physical year. Thus any series created in a previous year, or any stories not posted in the current year, would be ineligible.
I suspect it's better to focus on a 'top series' list within SOL itself.

As I read 1111's original message he is looking for a) stories put up on SOL ( as opposed to other sites including Fine Stories - my addition)
b) put up at any time (as opposed to Clitorides stories which are time restricted)
c) we are considering individual stories so whether the author has posted one or one hundred stories thus becomes irrelevant.

Someone referred to "Top Downloads" or something like that. I download stories and that is included in the statistics but some of those I wouldn't recommend so perhaps those are not always what the table suggests. This looks at stories after careful consideration post facto

I would add my suggestion that the author should have declared the story finished. Yes, there are many excellent unfinished stories so someone could perhaps come up with a formula to include such stories; perhaps a requirement they the author is known to be deceased or, at a stretch, considered medically incapable of completing the story

Replies:   blacksash
blacksash

@sejintenej

the author is known to be deceased or, at a stretch, considered medically incapable of completing the story

That makes for an interesting catch 22 situation. Is there any writer mental capable of finishing a single story on SOL? If yes would he keep writing on SOL?
:-D

Replies:   sejintenej
sejintenej

@blacksash

the author is known to be deceased or, at a stretch, considered medically incapable of completing the story

That makes for an interesting catch 22 situation. Is there any writer mental capable of finishing a single story on SOL? If yes would he keep writing on SOL?
:-D

That's a bit hard on the rest of authors! By medically incapable I had in mind long term coma or similar or dementia preventing a story being completed.
There are certain politicians you might want to include but please, not on this forum

Replies:   blacksash
blacksash

@sejintenej

A bit hard indeed but it was a joke and didn't mean mental incapable as you meant. Something the like the usual mild perverts that hang around here, usually.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son

@blacksash

Something the like the usual mild perverts that hang around here, usually.


Mild perverts?? Mild??

Thems fighting words! :) :P

Replies:   sejintenej  blacksash
sejintenej

@Dominions Son

Something the like the usual mild perverts that hang around here, usually.

Mild perverts?? Mild??
Thems fighting words! :) :P


Oh no!!!! Now we are going to see a rash of stories about 6 year old blonde innocent maidens and oversized maniacs just to prove that the word 'mild' is more than mildly un-mild

Replies:   richardshagrin
richardshagrin

@sejintenej

Those kinds of stories, with six year old maidens of any hair color, will have to be on ASSTR or some other US located site. SOL has age 14 as the minimum age for sexual activity of any kind.

Replies:   sejintenej
blacksash

@Dominions Son

Bring your worst. :-)

sejintenej

@richardshagrin

Those kinds of stories, with six year old maidens of any hair color, will have to be on ASSTR or some other US located site. SOL has age 14 as the minimum age for sexual activity of any kind.

Apologies - I had thought that anyone intelligent to post here (except me) would spot sarcasm/extremeism. I am very well aware that even 14 is pushing the limits in many countries

Replies:   Capt Zapp
Capt Zapp

@sejintenej

I am very well aware that even 14 is pushing the limits in many countries


And yet not so many years ago 14 would have been pushing the limit in the opposite direction.

sharkjcw

There was an article on M$N this morning about a 12 yr old boy and an 11 yr old girl getting engaged in Egypt.
The article also talked about a marriage between a 10 and 11 year old boy and girl earlier this year.

Replies:   sharkjcw
sharkjcw

@sharkjcw

Googled U.S. marriage ages by state. Over half are at age 16, with consent or if girl is pregnant 14 or younger.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjWrcXj_fDPAhVDMz4KHdcUAmMQFggjMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffamily.findlaw.com%2Fmarriage%2Fstate-by-state-marriage-age-of-consent-laws.html&usg=AFQjCNGtEduR2X3fTsHTJj55Pe2O77g6Tg&bvm=bv.136593572,d.cWw

Replies:   Jim S
Jim S
Updated:

@sharkjcw


Googled U.S. marriage ages by state. Over half are at age 16, with consent or if girl is pregnant 14 or younger.


There are exceptions. One that I know for sure is in my home state where high school students 16 and 17 years old are still off limits but, as near as I know, to teachers only.

Replies:   bondsman
bondsman

@Jim S

There are exceptions. One that I know for sure is in my home state where high school students 16 and 17 years old are still off limits but, as near as I know, to teachers only.

I think a little deeper searching will reveal that nearly all states with such laws have exceptions. For the most part those exceptions revolve around "authority figures" how ever the state chooses to define that term. The law may explicitly list those categories or it may refer to another law where they're defined. The problem with that being that what suits a sexual situation may not fit another situation, the list of excluded persons might get narrower or broader.

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