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How much do you recall after reading?

BrandonInOhio 🚫
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I only read long serials that are completed and I tend to burn through them very quickly. Some ive re-read multiple times. There are some stories like Intemperance, A True History of, Jack Pierce chronicles that i remember everything.

Lately ive been burning through so much that it's all kind of running together. Ive been on a do-over kick of late and im having a hard time recalling what belong to where.

For example: I recently read a book that I know i really enjoyed. One of the main issues when the person came back as a young kid and had a poor Relationship with his parents. He finds out they are swingers and hosting parties at their house. Later he takes his mom on a trip for a month where he completely cold turkeys her off drugs and the parents end up divorced.
I couldn't tell you what story it was, or who wrote but that I liked it.

For those who read a LOT, is this pretty common? Am I just getting older? I have a to read list. Perhaps I need to make a "i really enjoyed this list."
After thinking it through, im pretty sure it was the Hindsight series in this specific case, but the same question remains.

Radagast 🚫

@BrandonInOhio

That story is https://storiesonline.net/series/1047/hindsight-20-20

I used to have an excellent, although not photographic memory. If I looked at the first page of a book I have already read I would remember the storyline and all of the high points. I had a 'minor' stroke and now I struggle to remember the last chapter I read. At least I've recovered from the aphasia. MCT oil (refined coconut oil) has helped. It's promoted as a ketone source for brain fuel. Prior to taking it I'd often forget the last paragraph I read or even which character was which in a conversation on the page. I've noticed that when I stop taking it I get more blank moments during the day. If you are having 'senior moments' then it may be worth researching as a supplement.

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REP 🚫

@Radagast

I also had a stroke. I recall a lot of the stories I read, but get the sequence wrong. So I sympathize with you.

REP

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Radagast 🚫

@REP

Sucks doesn't it. You have my sympathy, fwiw.

TheDarkKnight 🚫

@BrandonInOhio

For those who read a LOT, is this pretty common? Am I just getting older? I have a to read list. Perhaps I need to make a "i really enjoyed this list

I've been averaging a couple of books a month since I was 12 and I'm in my 80s now, so you can imagine what that adds up to. I would be hard-pressed to name more than 10% of them.

A few years ago, I had the privilege of spending 45 months in Federal prison (don't ask), and reading was the only thing that kept me sane. During that time, I read 250 books. I know that figure because I kept a list of them. I even cross-indexed the books by author. You do some weird stuff when you have time to kill.

Sometimes I'll look at the list of stories I've posted here and have trouble remembering what some of them are about. It can be fun to go back and read some of my older ones.

All of that is to say that, yes, it's normal to forget, and yes, like all of us, you are getting older.

Replies:   ystokes
ystokes 🚫

@TheDarkKnight

Sometimes I'll look at the list of stories I've posted here and have trouble remembering what some of them are about. It can be fun to go back and read some of my older ones.

Whenever I download a story, I also copy and paste the synopsis to a list. I also try to wait at least a year before I reread it.

jimq2 🚫

@BrandonInOhio

When I was an OTR truck driver, Walden Books loved to see me coming. It was common for me to leave carrying 10 - 15 paperbacks every month. I could read the cover blurb and know whether I had previously read a book. Now, not so much.

rustyken 🚫

@BrandonInOhio

I've chosen to use Calibre to manage my ePubs. It offers you the opportunity to rate a story. I've added a category of 'Date last read'. So far is is the best solution I've found for ePubs. I do have a folder where I retain copies of the stories I've read using authors names for the folder id.

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throwaway8390 🚫

@rustyken

I really like that idea, I use Calibre too and the thought never occurred to me before reading this.

zitqhile 🚫

@BrandonInOhio

I usually have a problem with remembering the author/title of a story I read last week. Leaves me remembering scenes of stories but not knowing who wrote them or the title.

LupusDei 🚫

@BrandonInOhio

While in highschool I could recite the epic poem "LāčuplΔ“sis" in its entirety (it consists of about 19k words, 4200 verses in 6 cantos).

I can generally pull contextual citations without looking them up from just about any text I have read recently. However, regenerated excerpts of prose usually wouldn't be of guaranteed accuracy, not unlike the way LLMs do it: words can get substituted with synonyms and the like. Reading in foreign language I can generally comprehend texts that contain up to 15% of unknown words by simply inferring possible meaning of those words from context. I easily catch inconsistencies like drifting character names; at the same time such don't distract me much... and a few weeks later I may struggle to name the characters, sometimes even the main character. I remember structures not wording.

So yes, I'm not good at remembering titles and am outright terrible at remembering author names. Made somewhat even worse by me internally using Latvian phonetic alphabet to parse any Latin script texts including English. But if I had found of importance a fact two stories are of the same author, I may retain that fact far more easily than their name.

Dreamlike collusion of different stories? Oh, of course, such happens, quite easily. Human memory is malleable, and is rewritten every time you recall it, using current context clues to rebuild it in the most efficient manner. I wrote a diary throughout the dissolution of USSR (1987-1996, 11 to 20 years old) and given I had read Orvel and recognized I'm living the 1984, I didn't commit to paper anything I wouldn't publish and stand to it. Instead I included context clues, confident I will remember what I didn't write. Mostly I still do. I do often indulge in historical-political debates about the time, with the high confidence of eyewitness and survivor. Alas, I discovered I couldn't accurately date some things, so I made a review of my own notes crosscheck with newspaper excerpts... oh my! I had fallen for my own propaganda, big time. I wad propagating mythology. All despite I was acutely aware people do completely overhaul own past beliefs without noticing, uad seen that in people close to me on several occasions.

So, no, remembering ideas rather than exact quotes is normal. Cross-linking themes is normal. Severity of not remembering author may be or not at of concern depend on your memory model. If you used to recall tables of literals easily and find unable anymore, it may indicate a problem.

Vincent Berg 🚫

@BrandonInOhio

Aside from old-age, in most cases, you tend to forget a story's history when you read a chapter at a time for years. Which is why many of us won't even start a story until it's at least ten or twenty chapters (20 to 30,000 words).

Even then, you tend to forget the later chapter more often than the ones you read at a more-or-less regular basis.

Vincent Berg 🚫

@BrandonInOhio

Aside from old-age, in most cases, you tend to forget a story's history when you read a chapter at a time for years. Which is why many of us won't even start a story until it's at least ten or twenty chapters (20 to 30,000 words).

Even then, you tend to forget the later chapter more often than the ones you read at a more-or-less regular basis.

Replies:   TheDarkKnight  ystokes
TheDarkKnight 🚫

@Vincent Berg

And some people can't remember what they just posted. (Sorry, couldn't help it).

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zitqhile 🚫

@TheDarkKnight

This made up for waking up today. Even if I do prefer waking than not waking. Now if I can add a N as often as I said waking, I would be happy.

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madnige 🚫
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@zitqhile

This made up for waking up today

... maybe this old song from the 70's will bring another smile to your face

ETA: OK, it's from the 60's, but I heard it in the '70's

ystokes 🚫

@Vincent Berg

The worst thing an author can do is leave a chapter with a cliff-hanger and then wait 6 months or more before the next chapter is posted.

Dominions Son 🚫

@ystokes

And some people can't remember what they just posted.

What did you just say? I can't remember. :)

AmigaClone 🚫

@ystokes

No, the worse thing an author can do is leave a chapter with a cliff-hanger and for one reason or another (possibly out of the author's control) never return to it.

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solitude 🚫

@AmigaClone

No, the worse thing an author can do is leave a chapter with a cliff-hanger and for one reason or another (possibly out of the author's control) never return to it.

... While occasionally posing that the next chapter is being worked on.

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Diamond Porter 🚫

@solitude

No, the worse thing an author can do is leave a chapter with a cliff-hanger and for one reason or another (possibly out of the author's control) never return to it.

... While occasionally pos[t]ing that the next chapter is being worked on.

Worse still is when they promise the next chapter if they raise a certain amount of money for their GoFundMe or their charitable organization, and then don't follow through. I'm glad that doesn't happen here.

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ystokes 🚫

@Diamond Porter

Worse still is when they promise the next chapter if they raise a certain amount of money for their GoFundMe or their charitable organization,

Sounds like every televangelist. "GOD will strike me dead if you don't give me 60 million for his glory, oh and the jet." All we can do is pray he doesn't make it.

Switch Blayde 🚫

@ystokes

The worst thing an author can do is leave a chapter with a cliff-hanger and then wait 6 months or more before the next chapter is posted.

Happens all the time with TV shows. Usually season ending cliffhangers. And sometimes the show is cancelled so there's no new season, and no resolution to the cliffhanger. And as to the OP, many of can't remember what happened previously when the new season starts.

I guess the worse thing a reader can do is start a story that is not complete. Nothing wrong with a cliffhanger when the next chapter is available. It's called a page-turner.

awnlee jawking 🚫

@Switch Blayde

And sometimes the show is cancelled so there's no new season, and no resolution to the cliffhanger.

In one case, the TV channel gave a preview of the next season and promised it would be aired it Autumn. It wasn't.

AJ

Replies:   jimq2
jimq2 🚫

@awnlee jawking

Can you imagine the uproar that would have occurred if CBS had canceled Dallas after JR was shot? CBS might have had to file for bankruptcy.

awnlee jawking 🚫

@jimq2

Dallas?

Never heard of it ;-)

AJ

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jimq2 🚫

@awnlee jawking

It was an American TV show from '78 to '91, about a mega-rich Texas family of contemporary ranchers/oil men. They really pushed the limits with the censorship of the time. The big cliff hanger was when JR was shot in the last minute of the last episode of the season. A lot of people scheduled their lives around the weekly shows. I watched a little at the beginning and decided ti was a bad nighttime soap opera. I think my wife even gave up after the first season or two, except for the first episode after JR died.

zitqhile 🚫

@jimq2

Bobbie's shower scene to begin a season did cause an uproar if I remember. Explaining most of the last season as a weird dream did not go over well.

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awnlee jawking 🚫

@zitqhile

Bobbie's shower scene to begin a season did cause an uproar if I remember. Explaining most of the last season as a weird dream did not go over well.

I wonder what the scriptwriters thought of that - their scripts must have been poor to put the producers in the position of needing to reverse course.

AJ

Replies:   zitqhile  Vincent Berg
zitqhile 🚫

@awnlee jawking

Think it had to do with money issues. He wanted more, they did not want to give more. The dream happened when they gave in.

Vincent Berg 🚫

@awnlee jawking

It wasn't a scriptwriter's thought, it was a pure ratings grab by the studio. One that backfired on them. The scriptwriters would've known better, and probably warned the producers only to fall upon deaf earsβ€”it's never a good idea to question a show's producer, as they typically don't take it well.

But the fact they did make such a dramatic ratings grab demonstrates the show was already faltering beforehand.

Vincent Berg 🚫

@jimq2

Frankly, considering the reaction to the whole next-season "It was all a dream" episode, it would have been better if they had canceled it, as the show never recovered from that horrendous fake tease. I know I never watched another episode after hearing the one line, as I hate being played.

Vincent Berg 🚫

@Switch Blayde

Which is why new seasons of many shows feature video 'recaps', just to catch you up, just as the story starts.

I often do the same in series, where I start with a dialogue where the characters catch one another on what's changed since the final episode of the prior volume, thus it's not a summary, just the subject of an all-new discussion between the protagonists. So, to make it work, it helps to add some new information to help wake the readers up so they'll pay more attention to what they're saying.

That said, whenever I do write a Preview chapter, I only do it when I'm well into the subsequent volume, so unless something goes horribly wrong, which does sometimes happen, the chances of prolonged delays are minimized. As my previews are essentially, preliminary first chapters of the next book, which are substantially revised and further developed when finally posted.

palamedes 🚫

@BrandonInOhio

I guess no one watched Quantum Leap (1989–1993) with all the teasers at the end of each episode.

Writers where encourage to come up with the best tease with know end or sollution.

irvmull 🚫
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@BrandonInOhio

Too much, unfortunately.

(For those who have forgotten what this thread was about, it's how much we recall of what we've read in the past)

I have read stories here for years, mostly the ones with high ratings. And now it's hard to find anything that I can read more than the first few sentences without remembering how the story turns out, and most of the plot.

I used to while away hours reading a story, now it's "click" and "Oh, yeah, I remember how this turned out."

The thrill is gone - to quote the late, great B.B.King.

And the new AI stuff lacks the thrill from the get-go.

Replies:   ystokes  rustyken
ystokes 🚫

@irvmull

If a story is well written, you can still enjoy it over and over again. I can't count how many times I have read Dual Writer's "Vacation?"

rustyken 🚫

@irvmull

For my favorite stories, I try to let at least a year lapse before I read them. If it is a series, I will read the whole set before moving on to another story. Even so I do remember bits and pieces, especially of the stories that fully draw me into them.

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ystokes 🚫

@rustyken

For my favorite stories, I try to let at least a year lapse before I read them.

Same here. The two main things I look at when picking a story to reread are the date last accessed and the size of the file.

Switch Blayde 🚫
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@rustyken

For my favorite stories, I try to let at least a year lapse before I read them.

My experience is different. It's not until I'm into reading a story that something triggers, "I've read this before." And I don't really remember it so I can read it again and it's sort of a new read.

I've always had a bad memory and now that I'm old, it's worse.

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jimq2 🚫

@Switch Blayde

At my age, it is an advantage. Everything is new. Right now, I've just started rereading everything from Jody Daniel.

irvmull 🚫
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@BrandonInOhio

Unfortunately, the one thing I cannot remember is titles. I know of only 3 or 4 story titles.

So I seldom realize I've read this story 5 times already, until I read the first paragraph or two.

Then I can recall the plot and how it turns out. It's never as exciting if you know the ending.

Replies:   Switch Blayde
Switch Blayde 🚫

@irvmull

It's never as exciting if you know the ending.

I knew a girl who would read the ending to determine if she should buy the book.

Replies:   Pixy I
Pixy I 🚫

@Switch Blayde

I knew a girl who would read the ending to determine if she should buy the book.

Apparently that's quite common, mostly amongst women, as they don't want to waste time reading a book with a bad ending. They would rather spend the emotionally invested time doing something else.

Replies:   awnlee jawking  rustyken
awnlee jawking 🚫

@Pixy I

I've done it a few times when I'd never heard of the author and the blurb sounded interesting. I hate books which end on a cliffhanger in order to coerce readers into buying the sequel.

AJ

Replies:   ystokes
ystokes 🚫

@awnlee jawking

Al Steiner did that at the end of Intemperance 2.
From 2019.

The good news, however, is that I have finally completed and edited Chapter 1 of the story and it is ready for public viewing. I have just attempted to post it over on Patreon.com, my tier set at $1 per chapter. I promise to make standard Al Steiner length chapters and not try to profiteer.

It was 3 years before he started posting on SOL.

rustyken 🚫

@Pixy I

When I buy print books in a bookstore, I read a bit of the first chapter, then if interesting a couple of pages in the middle. Usually if I get to the second step I buy the book. Use to buy quite a few books when I flew a lot but that was decades ago

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