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devil's pact

jhnmakii

I've read the story but i can't get past chapter 3.

Is it all just mindless fuck?

or is there a plot in there somewhere?

plus with the way things are going, does it ever get repetitive or boring?

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son

@jhnmakii

or is there a plot in there somewhere?


Why do some people keep insisting that sex is some how necessarily distinct from plot?

Replies:   jhnmakii
jhnmakii

@Dominions Son

Its a full blown sex right at the beginning.

From what i remember, chapter 2, he fucked already fucked 2-3 women in a coffee shop, forced a co-worker of to film.

Chapter 3, he caused a orgy in a department store.

You can only change sex scenes so many times before it gets repetitive.

Not saying sex can't be a plot driver but that's basically my goal, i wan't to know if there's an over-arching plot or if its just mindless sex from one chapter to another.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son
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@jhnmakii


You can only change sex scenes so many times before it gets repetitive.


Repetitive doesn't necessarily equate to boring. A lot of action/adventure stories are fairly repetitive. That doesn't necessarily make them boring.

Not saying sex can't be a plot driver but that's basically my goal, i wan't to know if there's an over-arching plot


It's a man makes a deal with the devil story. The plot could well be the corruption of his morals/soul. The need/desire for constant sex, ever more extreme and/or bizarre sex could be a significant part of that.

Jay C

It is important that some semblance of plot be evident from the outset to get readers invested.

Plot can't be nuanced. It can be developed and expanded but it has to be easily identified.

A reader cannot be asked to devote time to something that requires intense scrutiny to discern direction.

I haven't read the story (and likely won't) so I have no investment. This is purely academic discourse on my part.

Replies:   docholladay
docholladay
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@Jay C


Plot can't be nuanced.


A planned achievement or goal can be used to start with if need be. Like life however those goals can expand or change as events occur.

Not_a_ID

As I recall, I read it mostly for stroke value, but there is a thin plot that weaves its way through the story. Heaven vs Hell premise, given the whole deal-with-the-Devil aspect.

But mostly it's wish fulfillment(literally, given the deal("wish") starts it), with a large amount of sex mixed in with a small helping of plot.

And as both sides utilize powers that involve the use of sex, skipping certain sex scenes(rather than most) can result in missed plot developments.

Replies:   docholladay
docholladay

@Not_a_ID

Definitely something I would tend to pass by in my search for new reading material. But like I have seen here on SOL, there is something for everyone's reading habits. The variety is what truly makes this a great site.

Replies:   Not_a_ID
Not_a_ID

@docholladay

Thing is, and many erotic tales in particular follow this arc. Is that the first several chapters often are nearly pure "stroke" and initial character exhibition(almost literally), before things settle into "the story proper." This is one that follows that kind of track, but the sexual content to plot ratio still heavily follows in favor of sex.

Wish is granted, character immediately goes out and "splurges" on going about enjoying his new ability. This splurge is what ultimately draws the attention of the story's antagonist and the real story begins. Depending on various factors this could be sooner rather than later, or vice versa. Further complicating this is the amount of description going on.

Depending on the author, an antagonist learning of events and becoming involved after only 6 hours could be 6 sentences, or 60 pages of smut later.

Replies:   jhncanson  docholladay
jhncanson

@Not_a_ID

Isn't this 'in a nutshell' plot of most mind control stories?

I think the main flaws of such stories are the MC themselves.

The mcs of such stories have brains the size of a pebble that only has 'sex' inside of it.

Not_a_ID

Not going to argue that. The plot is unique, the way it develops is not.

docholladay

@Not_a_ID

That is why I look at it as a matter of personal taste or whatever label is preferred. On SOL and its sister sites there is a little something for everyone. Hopefully without judging others taste in literature too harshly. What one enjoys another might hate. It just requires that I for one try and keep an open mind.

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