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Arlene and Jeff by RoustWriter

Redmond25

Can someone post a list with Jeff's wifes/mates up to the current chapter?
Thanks.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@Redmond25

Perhaps you could ask RoustWriter for a full cast list. I've been trying to remember the name of one of the other Alphas because it's pertinent to the human lie-detector topic. And I'm not willing to go back and re-read the story to find it.

AJ

Replies:   Not_a_ID
Not_a_ID
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@awnlee jawking


Perhaps you could ask RoustWriter for a full cast list. I've been trying to remember the name of one of the other Alphas because it's pertinent to the human lie-detector topic. And I'm not willing to go back and re-read the story to find it.


The former detective/Government spook who is working the (first) cattle farm/ranch thingy, or the County Sheriff? All of the Alpha Males can do it, just some of them discovered the ability sooner than others, the LEO types being in the sooner category. (Which brings in the two FBI guys as well)

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@Not_a_ID

The former detective/Government spook who is working the (first) cattle farm/ranch thingy


Yes, that's the one that sprung into my mind.

AJ

Replies:   REP
REP

@awnlee jawking

that's the one


I think you are referring to Fred

mclark413

Was a great story...if I voted on it today though it would get a lower score than my original vote.

It has gotten to be so repetitive that I feel like I could have skipped the last 30 or more chapters and not really have missed anything except for Morales' progress on the prison planet. In fact his sub-plot is the only thing I find interesting anymore, because of that fact. That being said, I feel like his story should be separated and published as a sequel.

Honestly, if he introduces one more person and takes the next 10 chapters having the current cast explain to them every thing that is going on, I think I'll just give up. The story could be edited to remove at least 15 characters and not lose any significant part of the plot.

Just my $.02 worth of course.

Replies:   DerAndy  sejintenej
DerAndy

@mclark413

It has gotten to be so repetitive that I feel like I could have skipped the last 30 or more chapters and not really have missed anything except for Morales' progress on the prison planet. In fact his sub-plot is the only thing I find interesting anymore, because of that fact. That being said, I feel like his story should be separated and published as a sequel.


Looks to me like he plans to bring Morales back. Honestly I just don't care about him at all, so I always skip the sections he's in. The story should have ended way back, in my opinion, but I somehow still read the new chapters.

graybyrd

@DerAndy

If they bring Morales back, it's only because they want that telepathic butt-ugly wolf. My interest now rests with the alien ship lurking at the edge of the asteroid belt, and when will the First Officer burn a hole through that sociopath Captain.

Other than that ... ? Burned out 157 chapters ago.

awnlee jawking
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@DerAndy

The great length devoted to sub-plots like Morales mean the overall story arc has become obscure. Jeff is having the shelter built inside the mountain because he had an inkling of things to come. The ship in the asteroid belt doesn't seem to be a significant threat, so where is the danger going to come from?

AJ

Replies:   Ernest Bywater  graybyrd
Ernest Bywater

@awnlee jawking

so where is the danger going to come from?


probably the same place the story appears to be going.

I've had a couple of people say I should read this story, but, thanks to the comments on here, I don't thinks it's one I could read if it wanders as much as it appears to wander.

graybyrd
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@awnlee jawking


so where is the danger going to come from?


The danger of infection caused by chafing and soft-tissue rash when a blizzard interrupts the timely delivery of a pallet-load of KY lubricant to the resort. Two-thirds of the story is repetitive sex with an exponentially-expanding cast of characters, far too many to remember without a cast list.

Skip the bedroom romps, and the story is down to about 30-odd chapters. The concept of an "alpha" character walking into a room, thus causing the panties of every female there to moisten and fall to their ankles is a tiresome device. The author of "Wolves & Dragons of the Blood" devotes the entirety of his five books to the same concept, except he tosses in biting and neck-sucking for variation. That, and repeating "to the least, to say the least, in the least," etc. in every other paragraph.

sejintenej

@mclark413

..... and not really have missed anything except for Morales' progress on the prison planet. In fact his sub-plot is the only thing I find interesting anymore, because of that fact. That being said, I feel like his story should be separated and published as a sequel.

Agreed BUT Morales is being spoon-fed with equipment, technical knowledge etc. and all the food plants have already been planted for him.
That said he is at least having to work to survive even if he does have a lot of 'luck'. (That is the type of story I appreciate).
Yes, make it a parallel story - a spin off opposite to some of the Florida Friends stories.

As for the alien ship this week's chapter has thrown a new element into the fray and seems to make an invasion of terra less likely - but let's wait and see next year (or will it be next decade?)

Not_a_ID
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A&J is probably the poster child for serials that perhaps should have waited to be written in full before being released. If for no reason than to allow an editor to excise a lot of content and/or shift it into a parallel novel.

The cast is huge, too many of the women are basically placeholders/ero-candy. As long as you keep track of the men, and the women that get a lot of "special attention" by Roust, its manageable.

I'm pretty sure that just about everything he's included so far, aside from much of the sexy content, is relevant to where the story is going.

The problem is the scale and scope of what is being written and built. As I think he's still in the "building phase" is such that instead of reading about a boulder rolling down a mountainside. We're reading about encroachment of a glacier, at a speed not much unlike one.

There is plenty of movement to be had across the length, breadth, and height of the thing. But if all you look at is where a particular point on the Glacier was __ months ago in relation to where it is now, not much has happened. Certainly one case where "telling" is preferable to showing.

richardshagrin

I have recently recommended to several writers who tend to post 250k plus stories maybe once a year or maybe once every two years that Lazlo Zalzac sometimes uses a series of related stories, either the same character or similar situations with each story at a manageable length and gives his fans more stories to read, more often. When a chapter cliffhanger gets posted, consider ending the story there, as book one, or whatever number would be appropriate, and start book two (or whatever number plus one) at that point. Sometimes a story improves with a point of view shift, and at least we get more stories per year with that approach.

I doubt I will live long enough to read A&J once it is finished, if it ever is. I am 71 and my dad lived to be 86.

Replies:   Not_a_ID  REP
Not_a_ID

@richardshagrin

I doubt I will live long enough to read A&J once it is finished, if it ever is. I am 71 and my dad lived to be 86.


At the rate Roust is going, I sometimes wonder if he will live long enough to finish it, and for all I know, he could be in his 30's, but I suspect it's much older than that.

red61544

I enjoy stories that follow a definite outline that takes them from point A to B to C to D to End. If the author feels a need to wander off a different direction other than the one that leads him to "End", he should write a separate story.

Replies:   Not_a_ID
Not_a_ID
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@red61544

In this case he isn't "wandering off the plot" as it were. The story is progressing, albeit gradually, but he has so many pieces and parts in the mix that it can almost be compared to being a Rube-Goldberg machine.

Just give me my toast already.

Replies:   REP
REP

@richardshagrin


I doubt I will live long enough to read A&J once it is finished


If I recall Parts 1 and 2 of the story finished over a year ago. You could look at them and be ready for Part 3 when it does end.

REP
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@Not_a_ID


In this case he isn't "wandering off the plot" as it were.


I agree.

RoustWriter's plot seems to be about the Alpha Male with Jeff being the Alpha of a group of Alpha Males. He created this plot via a series of subplots. In some chapters he would switch between subplots and in others he would stay with a single subplot. All of the subplots that I can recall focused on Jeff building a pack of Alpha Males who could help him with his various tasks.

Replies:   sejintenej
Not_a_ID

Well, except for the exiled Moralez and the acquisition of more women for the Alphas. If not another Alpha or two along the way. The aliens in the oort cloud are another.

Except he needs the Alphas and the wives to crew the ship. The Aliens are a focus for them to start gearing things up faster than would have otherwise happened. The Moralez story arc is clearly linked to the telepathic beast/pet thing which probably has a special role to play, particularly once it encounters either an Alpha or Prime(Jeff) and gets subjected to Ship.

Most everything else ties back to the Aphas and the opportunities those side projects have created for finding more Alphas, more women, and more money. While he keeps going on about more money not being relevant, we're not sure about what he's going to need for a "proper" crew on ship. Sure, it can run itself, but that's been pointed out as sub-optimal for a number of reasons particularly in combat.

Even the various bad guys work out in the same cycle. More alphas, and more women so they can have more crew. So yeah, it's to the point where it would be kind of nice to skip the detailed introduction to new group members where he keeps rehashing the same things over and over.

It also would be nice to see things stabilize long enough for the group comfort level to settle a little more so the "guests" dress code would start to relax some more. For a large group of supposedly really smart women pursuing advanced educations in numerous fields, that none of them have looked at history, or in particular the history of fashion (and "the arts") and started raising awkward questions or points is also kind of funny. Although I guess that's something for Selena or the other two ("newly arrived") teens to potentially play with, if ever due to other issues that presents.

sejintenej

@REP

He created this plot via a series of subplots.

I don't rate the vast majority as 'sub-plots' - they are far too short. The exceptions might be the original introduction (development and sale of the invention). the alien craft, Morales, perhaps the helicopter accident, the building of the shelter and the thing where the local sheriff got introduced.

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Not_a_ID

Well "Little One" and "The Ship" have been (hidden) elements from the start, as that's what kicked off much of the (sexual aspect for the) story from the onset. Even if their first appearance "on stage" didn't come until much later.

REP

@sejintenej

I don't rate the vast majority as 'sub-plots' - they are far too short


Sub-plot, scenes, scenarios, or some other term use whatever you are comfortable with. My point was he has a plot and that is how he builds and reinforces it.

BlinkReader

All of you are forgetting something invented in "good ole USA" - damned "soap operas".

RoustWriter is just one of many writers of such idiotic time wasting universes - stories that newer said anything but last for decades, and keep your housewives content while spending lot of their time for nothing.

He is writing this now for more than 10 years, spend more than 400 chapters to wrote what is happening to some people for less or around than 6 months of their literal lives, and every now he adds something that in some very distant future may have some connection to main story .

Sorry, but when I see soap opera i start to see red, and my mouth get filled with lot of (soap) foam ...

Replies:   HSWilkinson  REP
awnlee jawking

@DerAndy

Looks to me like he plans to bring Morales back.


When the psychic chicken starts lactating, we'll know Morales is an alpha.

AJ

HSWilkinson

@BlinkReader

Yeup, it's definitely a soap opera and a fairly well written one at that.

BlinkReader

@HSWilkinson

Isn't it some kind of a oxymoron?
(Well written + soap opera)

Replies:   richardshagrin
richardshagrin

@BlinkReader

Well written

Maybe the author was sitting by or on a well (the well wall) so that the writing included the benefit of still waters or the author was well lubricated. As opposed to written while the author was listening to an opera and holding a bar of soap.

Replies:   Not_a_ID
Not_a_ID

@richardshagrin

Or he plots out his story while singing opera and bathing in a well.

REP

@BlinkReader

I agree with you about soap operas, but at least the acting is better than 'Reality TV'.

RoustWriter enjoys writing his story and generating what he believes is a good story, and that is what matters to most of us authors.

You obviously equate his story with a soap opera, and don't like it. Your obvious solution is to not read it, and not worry about those of us who find some degree of pleasure in his story.

Replies:   BlinkReader
imsly1

I happen to enjoy most of the story.. if only he'd post twice a week🍻

awnlee jawking

@HSWilkinson

It would appear that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. If the story of Morales since being banished to the prison planet had been hived off as a separate book, I wonder just how many people would bother to read it.

AJ

Replies:   sejintenej
sejintenej

@awnlee jawking

It would appear that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. If the story of Morales since being banished to the prison planet had been hived off as a separate book, I wonder just how many people would bother to read it.


Agreed; it would need a précis of the violent background, the trial and the actions by the General and Jeff to help him. Otherwise the story would be incomprehensible. Context is everything

BlinkReader

@REP

Reality TV ? ? ?

Do you really must swear here?
This is one of worst I've ever heard and believe me i have heard them enough ...

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Vhat to say other than:
Viva la "Big brother" or (i belive it's called "Kardashians" in old US od A)
- and other, reality TV most perverted shits (shows)

Replies:   REP  Ernest Bywater
REP

@BlinkReader

Do you really must swear here?


You have my most sincere apology for use of profanity in the forum. :)

Replies:   BlinkReader
BlinkReader

@REP

:D

Ernest Bywater
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@BlinkReader


Reality TV ? ? ?


the only real reality TV is when they show the test pattern!

Replies:   Capt Zapp
Capt Zapp

@Ernest Bywater

the only real reality TV is when they show the test pattern!


I can't remember the last time I saw a real test pattern on my TV. Maybe early 70's?

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater

@Capt Zapp

I can't remember the last time I saw a real test pattern on my TV.


Some of the small independent rural stations still close for part of the night, and run a test pattern, bu they're getting rarer by the day, due to being bought out by the networks.

Replies:   Capt Zapp
Capt Zapp

@Ernest Bywater

...and run a test pattern...


I would rather see a test pattern than those infomercials.

Ernest Bywater

@Capt Zapp

I would rather see a test pattern than those infomercials.


affirmative.

REP

@Capt Zapp


I would rather see a test pattern than those infomercials.


Probably more informative also.

docholladay

@Capt Zapp

I would rather see a test pattern than those infomercials.


Trouble is that test pattern doesn't make them any money. Those darn infomercials are paid for by the advertiser supposedly.

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