Extraordinary. You have lost your own thread. You are contradicting yourself in your last replay, to me, it seems you are making up as you go, Sir, at pains to leave the past to the by past..."The church powers were wrong to push for superior rights in the past"..and let us ignore what they still do in the present. People like me who dared to question a priest or father or reverend,were burned at the stakes for heresy, and you want me to ignore it? It has taken almost 300 years for the church to "apologizes to Galileo, for telling the bastards the earth is NOT the center of the visible universe and the Sun DOES NOT revolve around Earth, but it's the other way around.
It has been agreed upon, among those who are honest with themselves that, Religion is a socially excepted psychosis. No more , no less, and the cure for it is a relentless and merciless ridicule. Nothing short of that will put them on the back foot, nothing short of that will get them out of our daily and political life. We are at the precipice of total destruction, and what every monotheistic branch of "burning bush" mythology professes as an ultimate destination. You are at pains to assert, repeatedly, how you stand for equal rights for everyone, but you dislike that the only course an individual has are the courts. It is plain to all who may have read thus far, that the current state of affairs not good, and somehow it would be better if you were to be listen to. A small group of activists or just a single person has, or, it suppose to have the rights just as much as you or I have. And if you and I do not like it, it's to bad, that is in the Constitution.
"Sorry, our Constitution clearly states that, you have no rights to endanger your fellow Americans, unless it's.................. …..with the gun"
Let me quote another line of yours.
"Atheism is as much a religious belief as any other, because it resolves around what you believe."
Well, my friend, you show how little you know or refuse to acknowledge. It seems You have swallowed your moral code in tablet form (pun intended) because, and again it is your business and choice. I could not care less, however, Atheism is a religion just like the abstinence is a sex position. There is no way I can get through to you and make you see my point. And it is fine, it is not the first time nor will be my last to try to debate a religious mind. You have been indoctrinated at the age of 3 or 4, more then likely, by the people whom you trusted unreservedly. Mum and Dad. Shame on them. You felt abused by me for not agreeing with you from the start and brought up the unmentionable. In the minds of religious, faith is untouchable, sacred and unquestionable.
Please, let me add at the end few lines on Jesus Christ. By the way, how come he is the only one with a surname in the Bible? Have you ever asked yourself that? There is no mention of Mrs and Mr Christ, but I digress.
I could admire Jesus and most of his ideas, but, way to many of his fans freak me out! Who would not want to vote for a peaceful, radical, revolutionary, who hung around with lepers, hookers and criminals, never spoke English, was anti-wealth, was completely against death penalty, anti public prayer, yes, look it up, (Matthew 6;5), never once anti-gay, never once mentioned abortion, technically never mentioned pre marital sex, never called poor lazy, never voted for tax-cuts for the wealthiest Nazarenes, never asked a leper for a co-payment, was a long haired, brown skinned, homeless, unarmed, anti-slut shaming, community organiser, Palestinian Jew. But, that is if you actually really believe what is in the Bible. Some think the rules come from Jesus, but none of them do. The Catholic church does what we do most of the time. A bunch of guys sitting around making up new rules. For example, confession; Jesus never said anything about it, ever, they pulled that one out of their arses in the 12th Century, just like with rule, women can not be priests, is NOT in the Bible, neither is celibacy for the priests. We did not have that till the 4th century, and even then, priests could marry, they just could not have sex, like....in a regular marriage. Jesus never said anything about Pope, who should live in a palace, and be carried in a chair like Liz Taylor in "Cleopatra" or papal infallibility, another rectum derived edict that came in the year 1870.
And I can go on. You now why? Because I've spent 8 and a half years of my life bruising my arse at the University of Theology to become one of the revered man who stands in front of his Congregation and vomits the crap the unwashed swallow. The best years of my youth, studding Bible (more then the one you may have know of), Talmud, Qur'an and all its edicts, and wandered how come so many versions of supposed "God's word". And more I asked, more my superiors avoided and dodged by introducing interpretations of their own. At last I asked myself, If just one is wrong, what makes another true? The logical thought to follow is that they all must be wrong. How come God has run out of miracles last 2000 years? Isn't it time to come out , again, since we can now read and write, have iPads and iPhones, speak many languages and stop us killing and hating each other? Why is he so shy and does not show himself, to all atheists like myself and to Budists too, I presume He made me and them as well, did he not? Why this trickery and secrecy. No my friend. There is no one there. I am quite fine with that. "If he is willing to prevent evil but not able? Then is he impotent. Is he able but not willing? Then is he malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Whence then is evil?" - Epicurus
When I die, and cancer will kill me soon, I will not know about myself, just the way I did not know before I was born. Life without god is just like a fish without bicycle.