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technomage

This has probably been asked before, but there's not really a search feature on the forums here.

What is the line length for a chapter style story to prevent it from being split into pages?

Thanks,

TM

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater

@technomage

There isn't a line count, but a character count:

http://storiesonline.net/author/posting_guidelines.php

Chapter/Part/Story length:

Due to various technical reasons, we try to keep the length of each file served from the site below 58,000 characters (approximately 12,000 words). Any story or chapter longer than 58,000 characters will be served in pages on the site, just like in a book. The page breaks are created by a script, so you never know where your file will be divided. If you don't like the idea of page breaks in unexpected places, then divide your own text into smaller chunks.

Replies:   technomage
technomage

@Ernest Bywater

Thanks, that's what I needed to know..Unfortunately I also know I read that numerous times and still overlooked it. I'll chalk it up to either CRS or Selective Sight. :)

technomage

It does bring up another question that isn't answered there. As I'll probably do most of my saving in html format, is that inclusive or exclusive of the html tags?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@technomage

As I'll probably do most of my saving in html format, is that inclusive or exclusive of the html tags?


It's inclusive of the html tags used on the site excluding the header and the footer. So the impact is minimal. Usually a 55,000 character contents file has about 2000 characters for html.

So if you use MS Word with its huge mess of tags when saving as Web page, then no correlation. The head section of most Web Page documents saved by MS Words exceed the limits on their own even if you have only one word of actual text.

By the way, a slight correction. The system has been using 55,000 characters for the cutoff for few years now, not 58,000. I corrected it in the posting guide.

Replies:   technomage
technomage

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

I found out about the mess at the top when formatting my first two submissions. I've since dropped word for that, and use notepad++ to replace the CR's with BR tags, and in my own html and head tags.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater
Updated:

@technomage


I found out about the mess at the top when formatting my first two submissions. I've since dropped word for that, and use notepad++ to replace the CR's with BR tags, and in my own html and head tags.


You also have to check the guidelines for what html tags are permitted.

http://storiesonline.net/doc/Text_Formatting_Information_Guide#htm

The exempted html codes carried over to the site are:

italic < i >

bold < b >

bold-italic < b >< i >

emphasize < em >

strong < strong >

superscript < sup >

blockquote < blockquote >

horizontal rules < hr >

H3, H4 and H5 header tags < h3 > < h4 > < h5 >

If you set the source document to use the suitable paragraph styles and these limited options, then the correction to allowed html is easy in Notepad++ - - all you have to do is use the Find and Replace to delete the excess code items. That's how I prepare my html for submission. I use a simplified stylesheet I worked out with Lazeez, and it works well. However, I do replace the blockquote with blue text in italics because I think it looks nicer than the font he uses for the blockquote.

edit to stop it acting like code. And to mention it accepts only the colors navy, red, and green.

the usual typo edit fro = for.

rustyken

I've been using Libre Writer to create my html files, which seems to work just fine. Although I did run across an issue with italics. If the space after a closing quote was italics, it caused a line feed. I think that has been resolved. But I've made a note to self to not do it as it is a pain to find in the document.

Cheers

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater

@rustyken

f the space after a closing quote was italics, it caused a line feed.


I think this is an issue with the SoL Wizard. I've seen it pop up a few times in stories, more often it places an extra space between the end the text and the apostrophe. However, the few cases I've seen on SoL in my own work have not had such a space in the submitted html code.

I use Libre Office, save as html, then use a program like Notepad++ or Bluefish or Kate to remove all the code that isn't allowed at SoL as well as convert the Headers from H1, H2, H3 to H3, H4, H5 (respectively). The bulk of what's removed is excess format instructions for the paragraphs and for the fonts. Easy to do, highlight a section of the code, open 'replace all' and replace with nothing. Soon all the crap is gone. But if you don't do it, the SoL wizard will strip it out for you.

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