are there any stories where the main character who is a pretty boring guy gets together a stereotypical punk girl?
are there any stories where the main character who is a pretty boring guy gets together a stereotypical punk girl?
Well, she's not full on stereotypical punk, but the woman of Worth the Effort by PennLady is definitely alternative lifestyle, including lots of tats. It's also a really good romance.
Cheryl Terra had some stories along those lines here - although the male leads were not necessarily "boring" - but she took her stories somewhere else a couple of months ago.
a stereotypical punk girl
Sounds non-Gothic to me.
As an aside, quite a few of Tedbiker's stories have younger women in distress and being rescued by (sometimes) staid older men.
I suppose I should have realized that. They all date from my time, and punk actually predates me, so I think of them as standard parts of the social landscape.
I'm old enough to have seen all the above. The school I'm teaching at has some emo walking around as well as goth. They get really bent if you mix them up. Since I can't remember the title of the story that came to mind, it's a moot point.
Goth has been around longer than all the above. Somewhere in the late 60's Goth started up. 75-80 was the start of punk. Emo is more a 2K's thing. The latter is far more likely to have neon pink (or other) hair. All the above are prone to tattoos and piercings.
Last time I saw a punk with mohawk, chains and bovver boots was '83.
Outside of Alice Cooper's stage costumes and some post punk / new wave bands such The Smiths & The Church, I never saw a Goth before '89. After that they were a definite subset of 'rebelling against conformity by conforming heavily to a different standard' all through the 90s.
Emo was the next generation, rebelling by not conforming to Goth standards. For a while neon pink hair seems to have been a tomboy signal (see Pink, the singer), at least in urban white culture before becoming an aposematic signal among genetic dead ends.
Manufactured and controlled counter cultures are an interesting subject matter. The original hippies were paid dancers for bands that all had kids from military intelligence families. The 'outlaw motorcycle rider' had its start in the Hell's Angels running CIA's heroin along the West Coast, while bring promoted by Hunter S Thompson in the press and Jack Nicholson in film.
The end of the cold war should have seen a baby boom as fear of destruction lifted and taxation to pay for an imperial military went away. Instead commercial music pivoted to hate, fear, paranoia and androgeny with groups such as Marylin Manson, The Offspring, NWA being heavily promoted. As their effect faded we had the new War on Terror to replace the Cold War.
Now we have the war on the common cold.
I never saw a Goth before '89.
I dated one in 1973, so I know they were around long before 89. They fell right into the various counter-cultures that were everywhere at the time.
However, it didn't really come into its own recognition until the early eighties where is was adopted in the UK "gothic rock" scene, which I believe is where they got the "Gothic rock" part from. Prior to that they were effectively folded into other groups, beatniks in particular. The US variants followed the UK nomenclature after that.
I never saw a Goth before 89 (AD).
Until then, they were Invisigoths. Afterwards they became Visigoths ;-)
AJ
OP's request was Punk .I believe pink hair and piercings qualify.
That's more emo or in rare instances goth.