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Any more like "Building a CAP Based +++"?

Finbar_Saunders ๐Ÿšซ

It would appear that the two stories By Allan Joyal are all he produced (please correct me if I am wrong)
The battle scene in the second book was brilliantly described and I was very engrossed I both books.

The Swarm Cycle books have never generally appealed to me because of the misogyny and inhuman treatment of the concubines. I find no interest in how many of the 'citizens ' use and abuse their slaves.
Joyal managed to keep his line to the side of being caring and I would like to read more in that style.
Any recommendations?

Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ
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@Finbar_Saunders

Look at https://storiesonline.net/a/Allan_Joyal, he has completed nine stories and virtually all of them are good. The longer ones tended to be better, but "Forgotten Family" was also very good.

(No need for me to link to that story, it's in the list)

sherlockx ๐Ÿšซ

@Finbar_Saunders

have a look at
https://storiesonline.net/a/Kenn_Ghannon
pretty / fairly capable are very good

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Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ
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@sherlockx

The second one (of the Kenn Ghannon stories) contains a particularly awful concubine-abuse scene.

https://storiesonline.net/a/John_Lewiston wrote some good ones.
https://storiesonline.net/a/Zipper_D_Dude will mostly fit your criteria, although not all of them.
https://storiesonline.net/a/Quantum_Mechanic has a different take on the Cycle.

sherlockx ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

Yes, I had forgotten about that

Finbar_Saunders ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

I had a rant on this forum a while ago complaining about authors who put in disclaimers about upcoming scenes.
However, I'm keen to find out what scene you're talking about (so I can either not read, or skip) I've read a bit of the second book, are you talking about the girl's rape by the street gang she belonged to before even being picked up? Or is there a worse scene of the institutional abuse that occurs because they are "property" ?

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Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@Finbar_Saunders

One of those books is up to and including the pickup, the second one starts at that point.
The second one (Fairly CAPable) has a chapter detailing a vile case of concubine abuse, the best that can be said is that she survives it. I've just had a quick look and it is chapter 22.

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Finbar_Saunders ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

I'm gonna check ahead.
Good word choice 'vile' I hate reading about women being abused with no redemption

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Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@Finbar_Saunders

If you look at the story comments made around the time that chapter was first posted - assuming they are still there - you will see a number of protests.
There were also some complaints early on about the story being too slow, tough.

Finbar_Saunders ๐Ÿšซ

@Finbar_Saunders

Thanks +

Dicrostonyx ๐Ÿšซ

@Finbar_Saunders

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but if you're still looking for Swarm stories that don't have concubine abuse, I've always been partial to starfiend's Woolly Wilds:

https://storiesonline.net/s/61125/woolly-wilds

There is a sequel as well, but either I haven't read it or nothing notable enough to remember happened.

Finbar_Saunders ๐Ÿšซ

@Dicrostonyx

Thanks

Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ
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@Dicrostonyx

The sequel is a lot better - and more "notable" - than you think, things happen there which are part of "canon".
Edit: But is starts off slow, and with a very heavy dose of incest.

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Dicrostonyx ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

Thanks for letting me know, I'll put it on the list to read eventually.

I've usually got a pretty good memory for details, so if I don't remember something I'm never quite sure why. Sounds like I just saw that this was out but never actually read it.

itsmehonest ๐Ÿšซ

@Finbar_Saunders

Stick with Allen Joyal His Peril at Ishtar and Crisis at Ishtar.
https://storiesonline.net/s/58160/a-peril-at-ishtar
https://storiesonline.net/s/71236/crisis-at-ishtar

Lordshipmayhem stories show the best ideas onhow it should be done. Start with Power Play
https://storiesonline.net/s/64031/power-play
followed Chosen Frozen
https://storiesonline.net/s/67075/chosen-frozen

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Finbar_Saunders ๐Ÿšซ

@itsmehonest

Thanks

itsmehonest ๐Ÿšซ

@Finbar_Saunders

The Black Friday series by Akarge made laugh so hard I had tears, I mean just the title to this one, Black Friday II: The Search for Leftovers, he has several others that are very good. I sorted the universe by score and most of the top ones are more thoughtful than abusive.

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