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kungfufool45 🚫

This is one of two request i've thought of(at least i think i did) over the past hour or so. Combat medic is not wht you think it is, or is it? Medic could be a gross understatement or a gross overstatement or a gross statement(if you don't like medics. What i'm looking for an mc whose primary goal is to heal people. At the same time he isn't afraid of putting someone in a position of needing healing. someone who can kick your ass and heal it right after.

awnlee jawking 🚫

@kungfufool45

'The Healer' by QM. Ongoing sci-fi but fits to a T. You should probably read the story before it though, 'The Cure'.

AJ

Replies:   kungfufool45
kungfufool45 🚫

@awnlee jawking

'The Healer'

is it premium? i'm well on the way to being able to use premium but at the moment i cant afford anything in the 99 cent store.

Replies:   richardshagrin
richardshagrin 🚫

@kungfufool45

is it premium?

No, it is still being posted ("ongoing") so the author has not stopped visiting the site for five years, which is when stories go "premier", only available to premier members who pay about $69 annually to keep the site going. Although being a premier of Canada is a pleasant side benefit.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater 🚫

@richardshagrin

No, it is still being posted

An author can choose to have a story listed as premium as well.

the story link nis

https://storiesonline.net/s/22134/the-healer-by-qm

Mushroom 🚫

@kungfufool45

Medic could be a gross understatement or a gross overstatement or a gross statement(if you don't like medics. What i'm looking for an mc whose primary goal is to heal people. At the same time he isn't afraid of putting someone in a position of needing healing.

Well, that is not a "Combat Medic" (Army term) or a Combat Corpsman (Navy term). Both of them are non-combatants under the Geneva Convention, and as a general rule do not carry weapons, nor have any real combat training.

The only real difference between the two is a regular Medic or Corpsman will normally be stationed in a hospital or other medical clinic, where as the other will actually be attached to an actual field unit and support only them.

Replies:   LonelyDad  cmdratom
LonelyDad 🚫

@Mushroom

Well, that is not a "Combat Medic" (Army term) or a Combat Corpsman (Navy term). Both of them are non-combatants under the Geneva Convention, and as a general rule do not carry weapons, nor have any real combat training.

In 'the Healer' the protagonist is being trained and performs as both a medic and as a warrior.

Replies:   Mushroom  eroux
Mushroom 🚫

@LonelyDad

In 'the Healer' the protagonist is being trained and performs as both a medic and as a warrior.

Yea, OK. Of course, I also learned long ago that most "Erotica" tends to completely fail to pass the "smell test" with how it portrays the military.

And in looking, being that it is about SciFi and aliens, it counts even less to be honest. In SciFi, an author famous for creating an "Ape Man" had the hero in another series essentially have sex with a species that lays eggs. That was written in the early 20th century, and hardly anybody batted an eye.

Quite literally, John Carter was having sex with a bug that looked human. *laugh*

QM 🚫

@Mushroom

The Healer isn't Erotica, though its prequel The Cure is... sort of.

Replies:   Mushroom
Mushroom 🚫

@QM

The Healer isn't Erotica, though its prequel The Cure is... sort of.

*shrug*

Synopsis: The family tradition was that one of you had to serve, be it Fleet, Ground Force or Guardian. Kiria was determined to serve yet surprised her family in choosing to be a Ground Force Officer, plus also compounded it by designating her specialist role to be that of a Healer. Not many Healers worked for Ground Force, they tended to work for Fleet in (mostly) complete safety. Yet Kiria knew that it was at the front where her services were needed... assuming she could qualify as a Healer Warrior.
Genre: Science Fiction
Codes: Ma/Fa, War, Science Fiction, Aliens

As an FYI, I almost never read "Science Fiction" or similar stories in places like this. I used to, and in general found them so horribly bad that they made the works of Elrond H. look like actual classical literature.

BarBar 🚫

@Mushroom

Yea, OK. Of course, I also learned long ago that most "Erotica" tends to completely fail to pass the "smell test" with how it portrays the military.

So my question for you, Mushroom, is this. Would a small specialist team such as a commmando squad or a Seal team or such like, have a combat medic with them, or would they have a member of the squad who was primarily a fighter but was the designated first-aider of the squad and therefore have some advanced first-aid skills similar to a medic ??

Replies:   Mushroom
Mushroom 🚫

@BarBar

So my question for you, Mushroom, is this. Would a small specialist team such as a commmando squad or a Seal team or such like, have a combat medic with them, or would they have a member of the squad who was primarily a fighter but was the designated first-aider of the squad and therefore have some advanced first-aid skills similar to a medic

The second. In a "Special Operations" unit, they will take about 1 in 5 people and send them for special medical training. Their MOS designation is not changed, their Geneva Classification is not changed. They are simply a fighter, with extra training in that specialty.

During Vietnam the Green Berets would take an Infantryman, and then send them to a 6 month "Crash Course", to teach them to do almost anything short of open body cavity surgery. Then send them out with an "A-Team" to give medical care to the locals. Sure, they were not real doctors, but better than what the locals had available. Deliver a baby, give inoculations, drain an abscess, things like that was their daily job. But they were never classified as "Medics", just grunts with extra training.

Not unlike myself, with my CLS (Combat Life Saver) certification. I can do a hell of a lot more than somebody 35+ years ago when I first joined, but am still not a Medic. But need a needle chess decompression or an IV? I got the bag in the back seat of my car.

And actually for SF, their training generally exceeds that of a "Medic". In general, a Medic at most generally comes close to a Paramedic-EMT level. Where as those individuals in Special Operations come closer to that of a PA or Registered Nurse with Trauma specialization. They are trained to operate for extended periods of time with little or no support. A "Combat Medic" is generally trained to stabilize them (bandages-tourniquet), then send them back to the Battalion-Regimental Aid Station.

Replies:   BarBar
BarBar 🚫

@Mushroom

Thanks for that.

awnlee jawking 🚫

@Mushroom

the hero in another series essentially have sex with a species that lays eggs.

I can think of a 21st century SOL story!

AJ

Unicornzvi 🚫

@Mushroom

Yea, OK. Of course, I also learned long ago that most "Erotica" tends to completely fail to pass the "smell test" with how it portrays the military.

To be fair, it's SF so it's quite possible they don't have an equivalent of the Geneva convention, which would mean medics being combat troops works.

Replies:   QM
QM 🚫

@Unicornzvi

They don't. A Healer in Ground Force (or Fleet) in The Healer is expected to command and fight as well as fit their job description.

eroux 🚫

@LonelyDad

Kind of like our (South African) Ops Medics are…

Both soldiers and medics; and most certainly armed. Which is how you have to be when you're enemies don't give a damn about Geneva and/or its conventions...

cmdratom 🚫
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@Mushroom

Well, that is not a "Combat Medic" (Army term) or a Combat Corpsman (Navy term). Both of them are non-combatants under the Geneva Convention, and as a general rule do not carry weapons, nor have any real combat training.

The only real difference between the two is a regular Medic or Corpsman will normally be stationed in a hospital or other medical clinic, where as the other will actually be attached to an actual field unit and support only them.

I disagree with the above. I was a Combat Medic in the Army from the mid 80s to mid 90s, including Desert Storm. We damn sure were combat trained (sort of infantry light), and depending what kind of unit you were in, we got extra training. I was a 91A / 92B. The common joke was 91A stood for 91-Anything or 91-Ammo Carrier. We had an M16A2 as a primary weapon and had to keep qualified with it.

We were also a multi-roll type of medic. In a unit or in the field we were the "doc" of a platoon or company (depending on the units roll) , but we also served as "medical assistants" in hospital roles and clinics. And as EMTs in ambulance runs. On non-training cycles I spent many a days running sick call clinics (seeing the same faces week after week for "it burns when I pee" events). I'd assist in the OR. Or be on a rotation in the pediatric clinic and have to give a hundred or more vaccinations right before school started for the year. I also got attached to a Field Hospital unit (think MASH) where we did just about everything with the actual Docs and Nurses, and then would be "borrowed " by other units for outside duty (i.e. drive a deuce and a half when not needed for medical work).

We did carry a Geneva Convention card (useless in the kuwait/iraqi theater), but that was just for treatment after you were captured.

Replies:   Mushroom
Mushroom 🚫

@cmdratom

I disagree with the above. I was a Combat Medic in the Army from the mid 80s to mid 90s, including Desert Storm. We damn sure were combat trained (sort of infantry light), and depending what kind of unit you were in, we got extra training. I was a 91A / 92B. The common joke was 91A stood for 91-Anything or 91-Ammo Carrier. We had an M16A2 as a primary weapon and had to keep qualified with it.

Uhhh, guess what. If you choose to carry an M16, that is all on you. Of course, you also at that time forfeit any protection under the Geneva Convention. Shot while trying to perform your duties, that was no longer a war crime.

But still would not stop you from being the last released from a POW camp.

Uhhh, just an FYI here. For the last decade, I have served either in a CASH, or in the command staff of a regional Army Medical Brigade. 10 years Marines, 14 years Army.

You were "Combat Trained", yea. Everybody is in Boot Camp-AIT-Advanced Training. I was an 0311 for a decade (Marine Infantry). And in our class were the Navy Corpsmen going "Greenside". We did PT with them, ran to the training site with them, then they went off and did Corpsmen things, as we did Infantry Things.

Do not think I am putting you down at all, I have long posted a meme that I believe in which states "Navy Corpsman, because 'Bad Ass Motherfucker' is not in the job description". And it is the same for all the Medics I have served with.

But I do not confuse a 68W with an 11B. No more than I confuse a 91B with an 11B. And yea, I have known people that were in the 507th Maintenance Company. Now known as Echo Company, 5-52 ADA. I used to be stationed about 50 yards away from them.

karactr 🚫

There is always Needles in "Tales from the Shack"

karactr 🚫

But what about Needles?

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son 🚫

@karactr

But what about Needles?

I have plenty of Ls, I don't need any. But thanks anyway.

Replies:   richardshagrin
richardshagrin 🚫

@Dominions Son

I have plenty of Ls

Did you go to L?

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son 🚫

@richardshagrin

Did you go to L?

No, the Ls come to me.

barbarah 🚫
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@kungfufool45

Thia really happens, both in and out of traditional military. I once ran across a newspaper story covering the "Police Beat" news stories, one of which detailed a ambulance crewmember (medic) shooting an "unconscious victim" who suddenly popped up with a 9mm in his hand. The medic put a .357 magnum hollow point in the "victim's" chest, then treated him for the wounds, including the one caused by the medic. All the while, LAPD was standing around with their thumbs in their asses.

Replies:   Mushroom
Mushroom 🚫

@barbarah

detailed a ambulance crewmember (medic) shooting an "unconscious victim" who suddenly popped up with a 9mm in his hand.

Sorry, calling "coprolite" on this one. Would love to see a reference to this, because it does not pass the smell test. Especially as you state it is in Los Angeles.

Replies:   bk69
bk69 🚫

@Mushroom

Especially as you state it is in Los Angeles.

What are the odds of some random EMT in LA having a carry permit? Similar to winning powerball? Then, for LAPD to not violently arrest the EMT (unless he'd previously distracted them by putting out a dozen donuts...)

Ernest Bywater 🚫

@kungfufool45

This series may be what you want.

https://finestories.com/a/The_Outsider

the MC grows up, enters the military, later becomes a paramedic.

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