I have this base longing to go build a cabin or treehouse in the a forest.
Can anyone recommend any stories that might speak to this urge? Hopefully with romance and love too, of course; tbh I'd prefer young first love running away together over veteran special forces operators whom happen to find an excuse to use 50cal etc.
Ghost of mystery mountain has a self sufficiency isolation aspect at first. Any others?
I guess there's no harm in mentioning the stories of Ka Hmnd, particularly the Addison's World series and the Kaire universe - plenty of young love and living in trees.
AJ
Ka Hmnd's 'Addison' World' stories.
In dead tree Alan Dean Foster's 'Midworld' may fit.
HM.
Shouldn't had supper after reading the post before answering without refreshing the page. So I missed AJ's answer.
Shouldn't had supper after reading the post before answering without refreshing the page. So I missed AJ's answer.
I'm sure you must be mortified that we share some of the same thought processes ;)
AJ
DTP, My Side of the Mountain by Jean Craighead George was my absolute favorite of the genre when I was a child.
Its the 1950s and 14 year old Sam Gribley tires of living in a NYC apartment with his parents and 8 brothers. Inspired by library books, he takes off to live off the land on an abandoned farm still owned by his family.
Its a growing up / coming of age story as Sam finds that 'living primitive' is a lot harder than Swiss Family Robinson or Thoreau suggested. Elements of hunting, farming, building, taming of wildlife, interacting with curous strangers and family are covered.
I've always remembered the book fondly, to the point that I have never re-read it, for fear that the magic would go away.
Ghost by John Ringo has a LOT of the 'guy builds shit, creating modern civilisation in a backwoods environment' theme. Dams, power systems, septics, housing, coms, etc. You will not like it though, as thats just the launch platform for "Veteran special forces operators whom happen to find an excuse to use 50cal etc." Literally. He starts his harem by saving them from slavers and claiming them as booty. Saving them requires shooting out the engine of a speeding van at range with a .50 Barrett. He levels up in every book, graduating to privately owned Hind helicopters with miniguns mounted in the doors and fired by buxom blondes. Then there are the private nukes...
The 'cabin in the woods' stories tend to cover the beauty of wildlife at dawn and the lack of reliance on modern society. In real life the wildlife at dawn in the vegetable patch are a huge pain in the butt. The three foot long lizard that keeps coming into the house to get in the garbage pail is a nuisance. The venomous snake that prefers the mail box is a worry. Digging trenches for septic pipe in clay and shale is hard, slow going work and it has to be done to code. You may not like modern society, but modern society is going to come and inspect it before you back fill around it. :)
Just as erotica never has disease, 'back to the land' tales never have aching slipped disks and a serious caffeine addiction that has to be fed before any more labor can occur.
I just found out that my side of the mountain is book 1 of 3, i'm going to have to look these up and see if i can find them online to read for free.
> DTP, My Side of the Mountain by Jean Craighead George was my absolute favorite of the genre when I was a child
So I've only gone and ordered the trilogy! Really looking forward to them.
Was wondering whether I was going crazy or simply not able to find it, but it turns out My Side of the Mountain isn't on SOL.
DTP = Dead Tree Press. In otherwords a paperback or possibly a paid ebook edition from the same publisher.
I apologise for not making that clear.
DTP = Dead Tree Press. In otherwords a paperback or possibly a paid ebook edition from the same publisher.
I apologise for not making that clear.
If you search for the title + 'ebook' you can download it for free. I'm not sure if it's only the first book or the trilogy.
ETA: Because of the ridiculous extended copyright periods in the US and Canada you can't download it from those countries.
Because of the ridiculous extended copyright periods in the US and Canada you can't download it from those countries.
Actually at present, US copyright is only 20 year longer than the Berne Convention (late 19th century) which defines copyright terms for most of the world.
However, before 1976 US copyright terms were much shorter than anywhere else. Just about everything from the US from the mid 1950s and earlier is already off copyright.
... US copyright is only 20 year longer ...
"only" 20 years? Tell that to Disney, they would like to extend it (again) beyond 70 years if that term is reached. So yeah, ridiculous.
"only" 20 years? Tell that to Disney, they would like to extend it (again) beyond 70 years if that term is reached. So yeah, ridiculous.
Edited to adjust comments RE Disney. Original comment failed to account for the fact that anything they had expiring in 1998 would have been copyrighted under the 1909 act.
It's already beyond 70, world wide.
I agree, it's ridiculous, but neither the US nor Canada is particularly so.
Berne Convention(1886) (just about everyone but the US) is life of the author + 50 years.
US 1909 act: 28 years renewable once only for a total of 56 years.
US 1976 act: term matches Berne Convetion life + 50 Flat 75 years if for works where a corporation is legally the author.
US 1998 Extension: Life + 70. 95 years for corporate works
As for Disney, the biggest boost would not have been from the 20 year extension over the 1976 act/Berne, but rather from the retroactive application of the post 1976 term structure for corporate works to works still under live copyright under the 1909 act (those would have gotten a 39 year boost, going from 56 years to 95 with the 98 extension)
Note: The 1976 act change in term was not retroactive to works copyrighted under the 1909 act. The 1998 extension was retroactive to anything still under live copyright including any works from 1942 forward that were renewed (not everything was).
The 1976 act also eliminated mandatory registration, bringing the US into compliance with the Berne Convention, though the US did not officially become a signatory until 1986.
I guess it's comforting to know that none of us will ever live long enough. All those dead tree works 'out of print' will stay lost forever to us mere mortals. And those pesky 'digital' works floating around the 'net may proliferate as demand dictates, legal or no?
Sometimes all it takes is a simple search. As for Disney, they likely have a Magic Castle full of staff sniffing and digging and stomping on illegal web-posters.
All those dead tree works 'out of print' will stay lost forever to us mere mortals.
We can have hope that our grandchildren will rediscover them.
We can have hope that our grandchildren will rediscover them.
I have 20x40 steel building containing DTP's going back to the mid 1800s. Most of which were inherited from my grandfather as passed down to him from his grandfather.
I've added to it over the years, and now my son is adding to it.
Estate sales, used book stores, garage sales, etc can sometimes contain multiple gems of this nature. While the pickings are getting slim, they are still available to those with an interest.
I was thinking of the (IMHO) sad situation with public libraries: due to a lack of shelf space, they cull their collections each year to make room for new books. So there's little chance of finding one of the "out of print" books that are no longer available.
The publisher is the gate keeper. If they refuse to print more copies, the author can rest in frustration knowing that no one again in his lifetime will read his book. I suppose the hope that the book might be scanned and offered as a digital edition, eliminating the print costs, is also pretty slim.
I wonder if the unintended consequence of locking away an author's works was really intended, after all? Strikes me as an oddly perverse result.
The publisher is the gate keeper. If they refuse to print more copies, the author can rest in frustration knowing that no one again in his lifetime will read his book.
Which is why many authors now sign limited rights for the publishers. I've heard some of the publishing contracts have all of the rights reverting to the author after a set number of years from the last published release of the book. Thus if they don't issue a re-print before the clock clicks over they lose the right to publish and the author can go elsewhere. Sadly, a lot of the older US works were written to give the publisher full rights at the time they expected the US limited copy right laws applied to them.
Sadly, a lot of the older US works were written to give the publisher full rights at the time they expected the US limited copy right laws applied to them.
A lot of that probably goes back to the 1909 copyright act when registration was required before the copyright existed in the first place. Registration isn't expensive, but before the internet when it all had to be done on paper, it was a pain in the ass and typically, the publishers handled the registration process.
I was thinking of the (IMHO) sad situation with public libraries: due to a lack of shelf space, they cull their collections each year to make room for new books. So there's little chance of finding one of the "out of print" books that are no longer available.
Sad is (though I agree) the only part of that being an opinion. The rest of it is factual.
There are two main camps as far as Ghost goes. One just sees it as an off-the-wall, over-the-top series of stories. The other camp is best typified by the phrase "Oh John Ringo, No!" do a google search on that phrase, there is a great story that goes along with it.
"Oh John Ringo, No!"
For those who lean toward masochism or maybe self-harm..??
All six books are available as audio books. Each book is around 12 hours of listening...
Plenty of time to scream "Oh John Ringo, No!"
I have this base longing to go build a cabin or treehouse in the a forest.
Can anyone recommend any stories that might speak to this urge?
Quite a few of the longer western stories do that. aubie56 and JRyter have a lot of stories that may suit your wish.
Lazlong's Wagon's Ho! - The Early Years has quite a bit of that. Several of dotB/Pelle's stories have that as well.
Several of dotB/Pelle's stories have that as well.
I like Car 54 for what happens up on the lease in the mountains which is much about being self-sufficient.
https://storiesonline.net/a/dotB
https://storiesonline.net/s/46723/car-54
Thanks for the links to dotB! I hadn't seen these stories before, and they seem right up my alley! Now starting on the Unca Tom one first.
Thanks for the links to dotB! I hadn't seen these stories before, and they seem right up my alley! Now starting on the Unca Tom one first.
If you like .B, there might be a few more at http://www.grynenbayritpublications.com/
Other great (at least in my Opinion) self Sufficiency Stories are:
"Sears Island" by Howard Faxon
Astonishin Legacy by Howard Faxon
Great Escape by Howard Faxon
I have this base longing to go build a cabin or treehouse in the a forest.
Can anyone recommend any stories that might speak to this urge?
Walden; or Life in the Woods by Henry David Thoreau
:)
