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Something in the same style as as Dual Writer's "Oh Boy"

Shofan
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Hello!

I just read Oh Boy, and I really liked it. So now I'm looking for something in the same style. It doesn't have to be about baseball or some other sports. The main thing I liked was how the relationships was handled. The obvious focus of the story was the baseball, and his relationship with his 2 girlfriends was very supportive and low maintenance.

It doesn't have to be a poly relationship, nor did I particularly like or dislike the incest. What I want is stories where there's a main plot that's about something other than relationships, in this case it was baseball but it could be whatever. And then the relationship is there as a positive and supportive part, rather than dramatic and full of conflict. I know alot of people want conflicts, curves and emotional rollercoasters, but I want happiness and excitement out of my fiction rather than sadness, anxiousness and frustration. Oh, and I prefer longer reads such as Oh Boy aswell. I looked at Dual Writer's other stories, but I don't really enjoy swinging, so I don't think any of his other longer stories will do me any good.

Looking forward to your suggestions!

Replies:   Nizzgrrl  Nizzgrrl  darrok  rmcleod40
richardshagrin

Maybe Magic Ink by Uncle Jim. Romance, or at least finding a spouse is one of the themes of his books about magic users.

Nizzgrrl
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@Shofan

I share your admiration of Dual Writer's "Oh Boy".

Take a long look at G Younger's series, "Stupid Boy." The story is about a boy's growing up with a heavy commitment to both football and baseball. Oh yes, there are lots of females to help him through his high school years.

The characters are well drawn, their motivations are a little cloudy occasionally [true of most adolescents] and the plot and situtations held this reader's attention and concern.

Nizzgrrl

@Shofan

Consider this an addendum --

Did you look at Dual Writer's stories about life in the Ozarks?

Try "Ozark Life" and "Recluse and the Ghost" for well written stories of happiness and excitement, just watch out for the bears in the blackberry bushes.

Replies:   Shofan
Shofan

@Nizzgrrl

Thanks for the tips, I haven't read Ozark Life, and I never finished Recluse and Ghost, so I'll try them. As for Stupid Boy, I've never really given them a try, as highschool stories, especially slow and longs ones, usually have alot of teenage drama. And Americans seem to be terrified of commitment in their teens aswell, which I have a hard time to relate to as that attitude is very foreign (and unhealthy in my opinion) to me.

I don't know if any of the above is true for Stupid Boy, but like I said,

The main thing I liked was how the relationships was handled. The obvious focus of the story was the baseball, and his relationship with his 2 girlfriends was very supportive and low maintenance.


Is the relationships really supportive and low maintenance? If they are, then great, I have a few long stories ahead of me to read, but if they're not, and is rather highschool drama centric, I'll probably not go for it.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@Shofan

In 'Stupid Boy', IMO the protagonist is a psychopath, unable to experience the emotional side of love.

AJ

Replies:   jimh67  Nizzgrrl
jimh67

@awnlee jawking

I enjoyed the first three books, but eventually burned out. I don't know why, exactly, but this is definitely part of it.

Nizzgrrl

@awnlee jawking

Psychopath - abnormal or violent social behaviour [OED].

The only violent behavior as I recall is on the football field or baseball field or in defense of himself and his friends.

You suggest that the David is unable to experience the emotional side of love. I disagree. Although his parents aren't Ozzie and Harriet, without a doubt he has a deep emotional relationship with them and some of their friends, his child, his brother's family and his uncle as well as his friends, teammates and other classmates.

The story, to date, follows him from the first day of his freshman year thru his junior year of school. It's a boy's adolescent years - yes, I'd admit that his is a most unusual or abnormal adolescence.

I believe he seems to experience the emotional side of love far beyond the usual fourteen or fifteen year old boy. Yes, so far he has not made a total commitment to any one person, female or male -- but, to me, that seems to be pretty healthy at his age.

I admit I'm reacting pretty strongly to your rebuttal of my proposal of Stupid Boy as a story that might fit Alistora's request. That's because you rejected the suggestion with the harsh pejorative that, in your opinion, he's a psychopath. Like or dislike the story or the character, but AJ don't be so dismissive that someone else might find something to recommend it to others.

My criticism is that David might be just too perfect in his actions or reactions. However that might be because I'm many decades beyond those years and mine were in an entirely different age/environment than David's or any other of today's high school kids.

I still recommend Stupid Boy to Alistora and I'm patiently awaiting the next volume of G Younger's opus.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@Nizzgrrl

I admit I'm reacting pretty strongly to your rebuttal of my proposal of Stupid Boy as a story that might fit Alistora's request.


Alistora said they didn't like protagonists who are commitment-phobes. Stupid Boy has sex with just about anyone wearing a skirt and breathing. In the latest book he's mulling over which girl of the several he's regularly dating to choose as his temporary girlfriend, quite happy to junk the rest without considering their feelings. I believe that constitutes psychopathic behaviour because he shows no concern towards the feelings of the girls concerned.

FWIW, The Stupid Boy series is technically very well-written and entertaining, despite its over-the-top MarySueness. I believe its high scores are justified.

AJ

Obliterous

@awnlee jawking

I believe that constitutes psychopathic behaviour because he shows no concern towards the feelings of the girls concerned.


Sociopathy, not psychopathy.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@Obliterous

Sociopathy, not psychopathy.


I don't think so. The protagonist is not anti-social.

There have been a load of populist articles recently about psychopaths and how the condition can actually be an asset in some careers. In this case, I think it would work well as the protagonist progresses to become President of the USA, billionaire company owner, Oscar winner, Superbowl winner, World Series winner etc.

AJ

Replies:   Obliterous
Obliterous

@awnlee jawking

The protagonist is not anti-social.


Sociopathy has nothing to do with being anti social, it is a condition in which the social norms don't apply to someone (within their own worldview).

These are the people that fuck up other peoples lives, simply because it works out for them, and they don't care about the fallout for anyone else.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@Obliterous

Sociopathy has nothing to do with being anti social


Oxford Dictionaries:
A person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behaviour.

The symptoms are the same but we apparently disagree on the meaning of antisocial.

AJ

Replies:   richardshagrin
richardshagrin

@awnlee jawking

anti social


He isn't anti social, he is uncle social. His brother has children so he is an uncle.

Replies:   karactr  awnlee jawking
karactr

@richardshagrin

What is a day without bad puns?

Pleasant.

awnlee jawking

@richardshagrin

He isn't anti social


His sister-in-law is Angie so he's angie-social.

AJ

darrok
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@Shofan

Maybe look at the Chaos-universe, starting with Rebecca Danced

There is nothing I would truly call relationship-drama, the main-couple have a stable and supportive relationship, despite being in their teens.

Replies:   samuelmichaels
samuelmichaels

@darrok

Oyster50 has a number of stories which start with romance, but have very little relationship drama, and have a significant focus on education and business.

tendertouch

Note, I'm working from the additional information you've given, not having read 'Oh Boy' yet.

Agreed about the Chaos stories and Smart Girls.

It's a little off-beat but Brian in the Dark's Dizyntk Imperium Universe might work for you. The relationships may be a little odd but they are supportive and mostly very low drama (within the relationships, though the relationships can cause extensive drama with those outside.)

zaliterr's longer stories might work as well. Again, there's some drama due to the presence of some of the relationships (not necessarily sexual relationships) but within a relationship it's mostly pretty easy going and supportive.

Janna Leonard's 'Nollie' and 'Shirley Jean' would probably fit well.

Gina Marie Wylie's 'Tangent' and 'Cost of Time' don't focus on relationships much - they're there but not the focus of the stories. The same could be said for Celtic Bard's 'Justice Resurrected'.

aussie.pornguy

@awnlee jawking

I have read the stories and the decision to which girl to choose as his girlfriend was one he agonized over and took the feelings of the girls into consideration but ultimately had to grow up and choose one instead of stringing them all along. Not sure how you didn't get this from reading it as younger does a good job of spelling it out for everyone who reads the story properly.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@aussie.pornguy

and took the feelings of the girls into consideration


Not as far as I could see. The protagonist didn't consider how eg Zoe would feel about being dumped. And choosing Brook as a girlfriend was surely stringing her along as he seems to have plans to eventually marry toxic Tami, neighbour Beth, and babymother Pam.

Psychopath!

AJ

Replies:   derek_2
derek_2

@awnlee jawking

I must be reading an alternate version of Stupid Boy as your two points are not in the version I read. In the version I'm reading, until David decided to go steady with Brook all of the girls were friends with benefits who all knew the score and were willing. The second point is also strange as his relationship with Tami is ever changing into a just friends, Pam was never a serious choice as a life partner... just a baby mama and Beth was a dream. Maybe the above is more defined as Senior year rolls on and you have not read the preSOL version.

Replies:   darrok  awnlee jawking
darrok

@derek_2

There is a mention that Zoe was disappointed because she had considered sex as a precursor to marriage, in Senior Year pt1.
I don't see David as a psychopath, just an idiot. Him saying "we are too young" is imo just a cop-out for his rather shitty behaviour. And no, I don't believe that "me horny" is acceptable for the shit he pulls.

awnlee jawking

@derek_2

Pam was never a serious choice as a life partner... just a baby mama


I thought David proposed to Pam at one point, even though he originally decided he was too young to marry her yet.

AJ

Replies:   brenner
brenner

@awnlee jawking

He offered to marry her twice to be dutiful couple for their son... knowing that she would refuse. Pam used the offer to reassure herself that David indeed loved her and would support their child.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@brenner

Thanks ;)

AJ

rmcleod40

@Shofan

Have you tried the Take Me Out to the Ballgame series by Tony Stevens?

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