Forum: Story Recommendations

netorare

literally means "cuckold"
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=netorare

netorare

literally means "cuckold"
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=netorare

In that type of usage, I would highly recommend the more common term or word. Very few readers will take the time to search out every word they don't know.

I think we've had this discussion before, it's also called "NTR" in many circles.

It IS a form of cuckolding, but it generally also is a particularly vicious form of it. Yes, lots of common elements, but it's different all the same.

Calling NTR/netorare "cuckolding" is like calling polygamy by polyamory instead.

There would be more, but just recently Amazon has purged several authors who they claim have violated their rules and their books have been removed

From my understanding of their "process" it probably wasn't so much that Amazon deliberately set out to go "on a purge" it is far more likely a person, or group of persons, decided to embark on a purge of their own, and went about lodging complaints to Amazon about "content violations" or other sundry things.

From the impression I've been given from others on here previously, Amazon seems to be more inclined towards "shoot first, ask questions later" when it comes to complaints being registered, and the Author almost always loses.

I know a few authors pulled their work from KU as a consequence of this latest round of banning by Amazon. As the authors involved are convinced it was a KU user doing the complaining.

Quoting VNDB:

Netorare (寝取られ) is a sexual fetish designed to cause sexual jealousy by way of having the heroine indulge in sexual activity with someone other than the protagonist.

And netorare can then be subdivided into Type A (heroine willingly cheats on the protagonist), type B (heroine is raped/drugged/tricked but succumbs to her lust eventually) and type C (heroine is raped, usually in front of the protagonist, but never learns to like it).

So, yes, NTR is an umbrella term that does include cuckolding.

a person, or group of persons, decided to embark on a purge of their own, and went about lodging complaints to Amazon about "content violations" or other sundry things.

Soyboys tend to get incredibly mad about harem stories for some reason and will screech about the rights of fictional female characters incessantly. It's a baffling phenomenon to witness manchildern throw a tantrum about content that was never made for them, that nobody is forcing them to read, and how they attempt to get it removed.

As for OP, the best way to hunt down harem stories is to select the Kindle Store and type "harem -reverse" (sans the commas). You'll get a lot of good results, but watch out because plenty of Western authors deliberately falsely advertise their stories as harem, when they're anything but. A few recent offenders are the likes of Dragon Cobolot with his "Purgatory Wars" books, or Jake Richter with "Kiss Like a Fist", or even A.J. Markman and Sam Ryder. Avoid them at any cost because they are scum that deliberately misleads audiences.

Authors like Jen Eastwood, Gregory Michelson, Michael Scott Earle, Harmon Cooper, Neil Bimbeau, Anya Merchant, Nadia Nightside, Remo Santomauro et al are usually a safe bet, though do read the summary just to make sure. I have more authors I know about if anyone is interested.

Also, besides Michael Scott Earle and J.A. Cipriano, who else was removed form Amazon? In the case of J.A: Cipriano it's interesting that only his harem books got removed, so it's fairly obvious the purge was ideologically motivated.

Also, besides Michael Scott Earle and J.A. Cipriano, who else was removed form Amazon? In the case of J.A: Cipriano it's interesting that only his harem books got removed, so it's fairly obvious the purge was ideologically motivated.

I was only aware of Michael Scott Earle, and I'm kind of glad he's gone, but for different reasons. I've only read his Tamer series so I don't know if his other series had the same problem, but I got fed up with how he was writing Tamer. He keeps releasing the books before they're ready. Book 1-5 could absolutely be a single book content wise, instead they're released a couple of chapters at a time for about 6$.

When I think back to book one, I don't think "Ah that's the one where it all got started, he built his base and tamed dinosaurs." and book 2 "Ah yes, that's the one where now that they're established on the planet, they got involved in some clan warfare" and book 3 "That's the one with the aftermath of the clan wars and they tried to find out who put them on this planet" etc etc.

Instead, it's "Ah book one, that's the one where he found some harem members, started building their base, tamed some dinos and fought some survivors and dinos", and

"Book 2, that's where they kept building their base, found a new harem member, tamed some more dinos, fought some dangerous dino and some survivors"

"Yes book 3, they uhhhh they keep on building their base, and um, I think he tamed some more dinos, and he got a couple of new women, they were also fighting some dinos again.... Oh, and they fought an agressive survivor again!" etc etc..

See what I mean? It's like each book is just chapters of a single book, it's not an entire story, or even an entire story arc. So while I did enjoy the content, I found the way he released it to be exploitative to essentially make the readers pay for 5 books for the content of one.

I was only aware of Michael Scott Earle, and I'm kind of glad he's gone, but for different reasons.

I feel that's a little unfair. His Tamer books are all 80-90k words in length. They are repetitive but entertaining. I can understand if they don't appeal to you, but it's not a reason to ban him from the marketplace. And, from what I understand, they were quite popular.

Yeah it's a bit harsh, like you said, they are entertaining and I've bought all books in the Tamer series. I just think it's kind of sleezy to sell 1-2 'books' a month that are so much like their previous ones, rather than to take a few months and put together an unique story. I feel like he is pumping out basically the same content, instead of taking the time he need to make a real good story. The content is entertaining enough that I've kept buying it, but after reading each book I'm left thinking "That's it? This is just ~15 chapters of one book, it shouldn't be sold separately!"

So yeah it might be unfair to be glad he's gone, I didn't feel any happiness when I saw that he'd been pulled from amazon. I think that I should have said that I won't miss him, rather than that I'm glad that he's gone. His content is entertaining, it's his business model that I think is sleezy. I just think that the content of each book does not warrant so many seperate books. Then again, I think that it is a common model for amazon writers. I haven't read enough over there to say really.

From the impression I've been given from others on here previously, Amazon seems to be more inclined towards "shoot first, ask questions later"

More like "shoot first, don't ask any questions".

MSE and some others, including Misty Vixen (I think), got caught by Amazon software designed to detect "cheating" on page views.

MV claims both innocence (didn't do it) and ignorance (don't know how to do it) on the issue. To my knowledge, MSE doesn't blog, so I haven't seen anything from him on the issue.

My understanding is that KU is very much a zero sum game for authors. So running a script to bump your page reads makes financial sense. But getting your competition caught with such a script also makes sense, so I think Amazon should definitely take a hard look at what's going on there.

Stryvamt has been pissing me off by shortening the "books". On KU it wasn't so bad, since they were "free", but buying them individually, it's not worth it to spend real money on a "book" that's 87 pages.

I don't mean to derail the thread, but could you provide a little more detail on your last paragraph about book length of Stryvant's books? I just took a look at 5 of the Valens Legacy books (the first 2 and the last 3) and according to Amazon, the printed length of all but one was over 200 pages and the other was 185. They are only $4 so it's not like they are priced as high as more mainstream books so I can't say that I can agree with your sentiment.

Stryvant published a shorter collection of backstories on the harem wives. Perhaps that is what leads to the complaint.

Some backstory on the Kindle Unlimited stuff (and "cockygate" if y'all were uninformed):

http://www.thepassivevoice.com/to-cash-in-on-kindle-unlimited-a-cabal-of-authors-gamed-amazons-algorithm/

My bad. Amazon now lists Wives Tales as 41 pages, not 87. Not sure if a different platform makes a difference (cell phone vs. Desktop) or if the book got edited.