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"New Frontier" or Colonization type of Stories

sunkuwan

After reading through most of the long DoOver and coming of Age stories, I am craving some good old mankind vs. wildness stories.

I prefer SciFi, but stories set in the wild west would also be okay. Just not plain Western. The story should focus on a group of families surviving a new frontier and not focus on some good guy vs. bad guy trope.

Some elements from the first Nights Dawn book on the colony Lalonde had some of my favourite tropes and story-elements in that kind of setting. (until it goes all to hell)

Also the Prison Planet story from "Arlene and Jeff" here on SOL are good, it should just have more people.

sejintenej
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Gateway - What Lies Beyond by The Blind Man.

Definitely a normal man but in a new environment. Starts off alone and collects others into his tribe; the occasional touch of sci-fi. There are similar situations as the Prison Planet but this story is very different. Recommended.

https://storiesonline.net/s/14638/gateway-what-lies-beyond

sunkuwan

Thank you for the recommendation :)
From the Synopsis alone, I wouldn't have checked it out.

Any other recommendations?

moredrowsy
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I forgot about this story until answered by Oyster from the Lost Stories forum:

What you're looking for is the "A Planet is..." series by Scotland-the-Brave:

https://storiesonline.net/a/ScotlandtheBrave

https://storiesonline.net/universe/456/a-planet-is

Pretty much about a few pair of twins placed by aliens onto an untamed planet to see how they survive and develop. So, these twin children with nothing but their bare bodies have to survive in an unknown planet and in the process develop technologies from subconscious memories from the aliens that placed them there. Recommend the first book.

Note: Don't read the Lost Forum post for this story unless you want spoilers.

sunkuwan
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I read Gateway - What Lies Beyond until Chapter 58 and think its a good point to stop for now until it is finished (according to the author somewhere in the near future)

I really liked it, even if it escalated pretty heavily.

My *dream story* (at the moment) would be something more "slice of life" Adventure type.

I will look at "a planet is..." in the near future

Replies:   docholladay
docholladay

@sunkuwan

I read Gateway - What Lies Beyond until Chapter 58 and think its a good point to stop for now until it is finished (according to the author somewhere in the near future)
I really liked it, even if it escalated pretty heavily.


Its hard for a writer to pick an ending point for this basic theme/genre. The only advice I have come up with is to pick the end of a season (seasonal change). Of course the end can then become the beginning of a sequel. Every ending is also a new beginning in some manner of viewing.

Replies:   sunkuwan
sunkuwan

@docholladay

Its hard for a writer to pick an ending point for this basic theme/genre. The only advice I have come up with is to pick the end of a season (seasonal change). Of course the end can then become the beginning of a sequel. Every ending is also a new beginning in some manner of viewing.


Seasons are important for this kind of stories. But I think it was kind of overblown in Gateway. They were somewhere at the right of the Adriatic sea, so somewhere in Croatia, Serbia or Bosnia, (so ex-Yugoslavia). Maybe even Greece. (olives)
It has mediterranian climate and shouldnt see much snow. Especially not full kneedeep snow from October through April. And the elevation that support this kind of snowfall doesnt have the rich flora and fauna described in the story.

A little nitpicky, but it was the most obvious headshaking moment of the story.

Replies:   docholladay
docholladay

@sunkuwan

That is why I personally think that for every ending there is also a beginning. The end of one event is the beginning of the next event. Or for example the solving of one problem is the beginning of the next problem. I have found that the answer to one question usually leads to a new set of questions. The same probably holds true for many stories as well. As an example a wedding is both an ending and a beginning. At one time in history it was the end of living with their birth families. It was also the beginning of setting out to create their own homes and families. So there were two different stories possible for that setting alone with many variables.

Replies:   BlinkReader
BlinkReader

@docholladay

And now something completely different: let's return to topic :D

Another story that may interest you is "I fell Trough" from The Old Guy.

(There you can find two sequels too.)

Replies:   docholladay
sejintenej

Re Gateway. My feeling was that it started off in Austria or Germany though it would need to be high in today's climate. (This was in the distant past when the weather was very different with London U K missing permanent icecap by perhaps 20 miles).
As for an ending, why not evacuate all up-time people?

Replies:   BlinkReader
BlinkReader

@sejintenej

At the last Ice age, most parts of Austria and southern Germany were under ice, and states Slovenia (what was not under ice too) and Croatia were much colder than today. And don't forget Italy, specially valley of river Po, it could be very close to Gateway settings.

Replies:   Crumbly Writer
docholladay

@BlinkReader

Another story that may interest you is "I fell Trough" from The Old Guy.


excellent stories and well worth reading.

Crumbly Writer

@BlinkReader

At the last Ice age, most parts of Austria and southern Germany were under ice, and states Slovenia (what was not under ice too) and Croatia were much colder than today. And don't forget Italy, specially valley of river Po, it could be very close to Gateway settings.

In that case, the vegetation wouldn't be nearly as tropical.

Replies:   docholladay
docholladay

@Crumbly Writer

In that case, the vegetation wouldn't be nearly as tropical.


For vegetation you have to also consider areas that are considered as "Micro Climates". In those areas which vary in sizes the vegetation can be very different from what is considered normal for a region. I have grown things outdoors which people said would not grow in my area with success at times because of the micro climate affect.

sunkuwan

The problem is the duration and the scope of the winter in the Story.
We have kneedeep snow from October through April with a flora and fauna that doesnt support such a scenario. Think of it like it is in the midwest but with 7 months of heavy snow.

Replies:   BlinkReader
BlinkReader

@sunkuwan

the duration and the scope of the winter in the Story


In western parts of Balkan (that is west from Italy and Adriatic sea for you poor souls from old USA, or Croatia, Bosnia, Slovenia to be even more specific) that are near the sea you have mediterranian climate and no more than 20-30 kilometers from the sea you have mountains and harsh continental climate.

And another thing - this is just a story with rules that don't need to strictly follow the science, so please don't loose your sleep and beauty because of this :)

sunkuwan

It was not my intention to diss the story, I really like it so far (chapter 58). This was just the major thing that poked me in the eye constantly.

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