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I know I need an editor

Inconnu

I'm an American since birth and English is my first language (at the risk of sounding redundant). I spell worse than Dan Quayle (and have been working hard to change this and might have succeeded), but spellcheck helps this part. I'm likely dating myself with that comparison. I also tend to jump between points and not see the extent of this. I don't want to post an unedited story for all to read. Where would I post it to show a potential editor but not everyone who looks at the stories sites? I also tend to put no-sex background for the story in a single chapter and call it 'chapter 0', and have chapter 1 be the first chapter with sex. If the pre-sex background needed to br conveyed is just a few paragraphs, I'll start with chapter 1. I also try to break chapters so sex happens near the beginning of most chapters. That's just how I tend to organize my stories.

Ernest Bywater

try here:

https://storiesonline.net/author/volunteer_editors.php

Ross at Play
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https://storiesonline.net/author/volunteer_editors.php

Yes, that's where you should look for someone who may be a suitable fit.

A few notes about contacting editors:

1. It doesn't hurt to ask quite a lot if they are willing to try, and having a few editors reviewing a story is ideal as different editors tend to notice different things. You should build a relationship with your editors, and try to agree what to expect from each other early on.

2. You MUST not send them your story until they ask for it. Note that in some countries it is illegal to receive some types of stories in emails.

3. Instead, include in your first contact your draft story description, the codes you think are needed, and if possible, a synopsis of the story. Note that getting your codes right is important. They exist so that readers, including your editors, can avoid reading content they find distasteful. We can them a person's "squicks". Please be respectful of others' right to choose what they are prepared to read.

Welcome and good luck.

ETA: Tell those you ask to edit your story its word count too. They will want to know that.

Crumbly Writer

@Inconnu

I'm the same, and can't spell my way out of a paper bag. Also, due to the diversity of my reading sources as a youngster, I've found after posting stories online, that many of my 'American' spellings are actually British. Since they're for uncommon terms, I'd never realized I favored some British spellings over their Americanized versions.

Rather than relying on spell-checkers, which are notoriously unreliable, I instead resort to the Google Search bar in most internet browsers. Whey you type in a word or phrase, it 'guesses' what you actually wanted to say, rather than 'correcting' an incorrect word, so you can often spot the correct spelling for the word you're searching for.

If it wasn't for Google Search, I'd never have become an author!

Also, though Ernest's suggestion is the 'official' solution, it's also notoriously unreliable, as the editor lists are often outdated, the authors don't respond, or when they do, there's a clear difference in interest based on the story contents.

Better suggestions are to either ask for editors here, or to study the authors you favor, the ones writing similar stories to those you want to write, and to identify the editors they credit. You can then either reach out to those editors yourself, if they're also authors in their own right, or you can ask the authors whether they could recommend editors for you.

But in the end, the best bet is after you've already posted a story, and readers write in to point out mistakes. Pay close attention to those, as the majority of my best editors have come from those very reader comments.

I'll often vet their corrections against my other editors, to ensure they know what they're talking about, but if they consistently offer decent suggestions, grab them by the lapels and beg them to help!

The other key, is you don't just ask for 'an editor'. Instead, you want to give them some context before asking them to commit.

It's best to mention the story, include the story blurb (make sure you have that formalized before you ever write anything!), and include the genre and any relevant SOL codes and how much sex it contains.

That'll prevent you getting someone involved who'll only decide to dump you shortly afterwards. The beauty of readers who volunteer is that they already know and appreciate your storytelling techniques, so they won't try to modify your writing style completely.

Best of luck finding someone. You'll find that, as much as we fight and bicker with one another here on the forum, we're all working together to help new authors find their way through their first story.

Ross at Play
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Please, don't take this as in any way discouraging to someone who's just written their first story.

When I look back at the first story I wrote I see some good elements, but as a story, it was rubbish. I think almost all who post here regularly would say something similar.

I'm sorry, but they way you say you've organised your story sounds awful to me. However, I think you have far better things to do than trying to fix this story - at least not now. Perhaps you could come later and rewrite it from scratch after you've written some more stories and learned the basics of the writing craft. A lot of authors do that: there is a special place in the heart for everyone's first-born child.

You are doing the right thing by looking for an editor before posting this story. If you're going to improve as a writer you really do need to make everything you write as good as you can get it - at that stage of your development.

I urge you to look at the writing resources on the site here before attempting your next story. The guides by Ken Randall seem like as good a place to start as any. They are basic introductions but more than any beginner could cope with. They're probably worth re-reading several times whenever you're about to start a new story.

My reasons for concern about how you say you've organised your story is that it shouldn't matter how much sex is in the story: the needs of the story should dictate where the sex appears, not the other way around. What you describe sounds to me like an "information dump" (or infodump). Ideally, your readers should be interested in your characters and curious what will happen to them by the end of the first page, or better yet, the first paragraph.

I also suggest you read this thread on the Author Hangout. It should give you a clear idea the importance experienced writers place on getting readers engrossed by the story very quickly, and then introducing various details they need to know as they need to know them. There's no reason a stroke story cannot be literature too. The same principles of good story-telling apply to them as to other stories.

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Inconnu
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Thanks all, a lot of good data. I'm definitely going to use a few of the ideas. After I posted this I had a different idea that came out much less scattered, so I'm going to post that ome first. Since I'm more than 20 years older than google, I tend to use a dictionary when I'm not sure if spellcheck is steering me wrong (at least with my IPad i can highlight fhe word and hit 'define', if it's not listed in that google is a second option.

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anim8ed
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@Inconnu

I use the free version of WordWeb. It is a combination Dictionary and Thesauraus. You can find it at wordweb dot info.

WordWeb Free* version

One-click lookup in any almost any Windows program

Hundreds of thousands of definitions and synonyms

The latest international English words

Works offline, or reference to Wikipedia and web references

StarFleet Carl

@Ross at Play

When I look back at the first story I wrote I see some good elements, but as a story, it was rubbish. I think almost all who post here regularly would say something similar.


Yes, we all agree - the first story you ever wrote here was rubbish.

Sorry, that was just too easy to resist.

And of course, resistance is futile ... if less than 1 ohm.

In all seriousness, though, having an editor or at least someone else to proofread your stories helps considerably. That way you can make all new mistakes when you enter their changes. Just make sure your spelling and word choice is appropriate, since English is, to be blunt, a fucked up language. Are the presents present in your presence? Do the Presidents have precedence? They're there, with their selections.

Ross at Play

@StarFleet Carl

that was just too easy to resist.

Okay, but I'll remember this the next time I spot an opportunity in one of your posts.

Replies:   StarFleet Carl
StarFleet Carl
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@Ross at Play


I'll remember this the next time I spot an opportunity in one of your posts


I told one of the guys at work today that I'd engage him in a battle of wits, but he was unarmed. What made that annoying was he just looked at me and went, "Huh?". I just told him, point proven, and walked away.

EDIT: Which just basically means, please indulge yourself. I'm quite certain I'll err at some point or another, probably multiple times. If you can't laugh at yourself, then what's the point of humor?

Ross at Play
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@StarFleet Carl

If you can't laugh at yourself, then what's the point of humor?

Oh, I laughed at your direct hit on me first. And I make jokes at my own expense all the time.

So, game on it is. Don't worry. As any Cockney would put it, "I'm 'armless."

Ross at Play
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@StarFleet Carl

"Huh?".

"Huh?"

Ross at Play

@StarFleet Carl

It's early days, but by my reckoning the current score is 7-2, one converted touchdown against a safety.

Replies:   StarFleet Carl
StarFleet Carl

@Ross at Play

It's early days, but by my reckoning the current score is 7-2, one converted touchdown against a safety.


Some of us still work for a living, which means we don't live on these forums.

And if I'm not available due to injury (which my allergic reaction to the pneumonia vaccine damned near qualifies as an injury - 14 hours in bed asleep with a fever), then I have Baker Mayfield as my back-up. BOOMER SOONER!

Replies:   Ross at Play
Ross at Play

@StarFleet Carl

Some of us still work for a living, which means we don't live on these forums.

Which means you'll have far more posts by me that you may attempt to pick apart than the other way around. I'm okay with that. Game on it is!

AND get well soon! :-)

Robin Pentecost

@Inconnu

I'm available, if you haven't already filled your team. I have the time and I think I can make a contribution. See my stories here ON SOL. if you have already filled your team, best of luck.

Crumbly Writer

@StarFleet Carl

When I look back at the first story I wrote I see some good elements, but as a story, it was rubbish. I think almost all who post here regularly would say something similar.

Yes, we all agree - the first story you ever wrote here was rubbish.

Despite my first series always being immensely popular, I've finally 'unpublished' the entire 1 million word, six-book series (I 'archived' the entire series on SOL a while ago). I'm currently planning a new rewrite of the entire thing, much more tightly packaged and told from a perspective of an entirely new character, but it's not a pressing priority just now. However, I've long felt that those initial books reflected poorly on my newer works, as my writing style and standards have significantly changed over time.

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