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jefftrip16 ๐Ÿšซ

Hello all,

I am not an author yet. So here is my situation, I am one of those people that was in special education at school. A combination of not the highest I.Q. and a physical disability. Winner, hopefully there is a trophy for that, being that we are in the era of everyone getting a trophy for something.

I hated spelling and grammar at school because I sucked at it!! Getting back to why I am here. I enjoy reading stories on this site, actually a paid up member.

I once had and idea for someone's else's story, I sent it off to the author, as I thought it was a good idea. The author was polite in his reply. A little miffed I decided to have a go at writing one chapter at seeing how it would work, I soon realized he was correct it didn't fit. But I have kept on writing, a little slow at times when you only have two fingers and voice to text doesn't work for me.

Sorry for be long winded, my question is: Is a grammar program good enough if I decided to post my story?

Thank you in advance
J

Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ

@jefftrip16

Sorry for be long winded, my question is: Is a grammar program good enough if I decided to post my story?

Even with decent grammar and vocabulary and using Grammarly, my editor and proofreaders still find errors because some things are difficult for algorithms to catch.

That said, it's likely sufficient, though having a proofreader would be a good addition.

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jefftrip16 ๐Ÿšซ

@Michael Loucks

Thank you for your reply. Once I am finished I will look for a proof reader.

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@jefftrip16

Is a grammar program good enough

Grammar programs aren't always correct. You have to analyze what the grammar program is suggesting and make the final determination. But it's good to be told what to look at. Sometimes the program is correct.

I would put the effort into learning punctuation, especially the punctuation for dialogue. When I find it difficult to read a story it's usually because of bad punctuation.

TheDarkKnight ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

I've been using Grammarly for the last couple of years, but I always keep in mind that it is primarily intended for business use. I usually ignore most of the suggestions "it" makes about dialogue.

jefftrip16 ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

Thank you, this is where I do struggle, punctuation and where it goes. Hopefully the program will help.

Diamond Porter ๐Ÿšซ
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@jefftrip16

jefftrip16, I think you are too negative about yourself. Your message is of the same quality as most stories posted here (and much better than some) so whatever you used to write the message will be adequate. By that I mean, if you can write a good story, this quality of grammar will not cause any readers to give up on it or even to think worse of it.

I do see half a dozen spots where I would recommend different punctuation, or maybe a different choice of word. Grammar-checking software would probably catch many of the same spots, but would also flag things that you don't need to change. If you want to use it, and are careful about checking its suggestions, you might end up with something more polished. A good proofreader will also catch many of the same issues, but is less likely to try to change "blow job" to "blow away." Proofreaders and editors also catch story-level problems that software generally cannot catch.

Returning to my main point: If you write a story the way you wrote your message, then the spelling, punctuation, and grammar will not be a problem.

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ
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@Diamond Porter

Returning to my main point: If you write a story the way you wrote your message, then the spelling, punctuation, and grammar will not be a problem.

[The following is addressed to the original poster]

But using a grammar tool and/or editor will help make it better. You always want to strive for the best you can be. (Now I sound like a U.S. Army advertisement. Or is it the Marines?)

And I stand by my comment about learning punctuation. If you don't get into the weird stuff, it's relatively easy and will make a big difference. And it's not the weird stuff that will make a difference. It's the simple stuff like:

"Let's eat, Grandma."
"Let's eat Grandma."

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

"Let's eat Grandma."

Grandma is too tough and stringy. :)

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Marc Nobbs ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

You're eating the wrong bit. ;)

jefftrip16 ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

Thank you for you comments and the sample you provided. Big help. I will work on it.

jefftrip16 ๐Ÿšซ

@Diamond Porter

Thank you for the encouragement. Many years of not performing well at different school leaves it's mark, but this makes me who I am. I am going to find a program to help with punctuation, this is where I don't remember the basics. Then the story I think will hold its own. Author here I come.

Pixy I ๐Ÿšซ

@jefftrip16

I feel your pain Jefftrip, as I was also a 'slow' learner at school. I was fourteen before I could fully recite (but badly) the alphabet. Up till that point I used those plastic letter and number stencils that everyone seemed to have in those days, to know what letters went where.

I'm also a two finger typist, however, I circumvented that somewhat by buying a tablet, stylus (which was terribly slow, so I changed to an electronic one...) and a handwriting-to-text program.

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jefftrip16 ๐Ÿšซ

@Pixy I

Hi Pixy,

Thank you for sharing. There is less pain in knowing you're not the only one.

I have found while we are not good in grammar or spelling, we have other special (in a good way) talents.

Marc Nobbs ๐Ÿšซ

@jefftrip16

Grammarly is very good, especially the premium version, but you can't rely on it 100%. It's primarily a business tool and behaves accordingly. Although you can tweak it to your style, it does require a lot of effort.

I've found that the best way to use it is as a visual cue for parts of the text I need to examine. Sometimes, the Grammarly suggested fix is suitable; other times, it isn't. As with everything related to writing, it's a matter of judgment. There are no quick and easy fixes.

The same goes for using ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude or Grok to help with proofreading/editing. They are tools, not quick fixes, and they are only as good as the effort the person using them is willing to invest in making them work for them.

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jefftrip16 ๐Ÿšซ

@Marc Nobbs

Thank you for your reply regarding grammar programs. Hopefully the errors that are highlighted are the ones I need.

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