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xyz_abc 🚫

I just found that parts auf a story seem to be missing.
I read My Present by Oyster50 chapter 10.
At the and it said:
"I smiled. "Probably. And I think she has no idea of how wonderful it is. No stress. No sneaking. No hiding. No wondering who's tonight or who's next. Just me and the guy who'll be mine forever."
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This whole big chunck of text was added:
"

He kissed me. "I worry sometimes. We're ... I love what we have, but it's just so far out there. I worry that you'll decide that some other guy would make more sense ... society would accept that."

"First, my love," I stated, kissing him back, "whoever that might be would not be my first and only. You're that. Second, you and I have lived together forever. I know you completely. I'd have to find out things about some other guy a little at a time. Suppose I found out something that was a deal-breaker. Or suppose HE found out something? Then it's either break up and start in on the next one or try to work around something that causes the other partner stress."

"I do know you that well," he resigned. "You don't even dog-ear the pages of a book to mark your spot."

"You're NOT Ranger," I said, referring to Reena's big brother. "Or any of the guys that she's supposed to have done. I don't think even SHE knows all of them."

"But she gave her brother a disease?"

"He could've given it to her. Who knows. Aren't you glad YOU didn't get on that bandwagon?"

"It was a BIG bandwagon. But no. I kinda knew that Reena wasn't for me."

"Just like I said. I knew on my birthday who was right for you. Just took a while for me to get my present."

"It's a shame we're driving," he laughed. "Sometimes you're just so wonderfully charming that I wanna wrap you up in my arms right then."

"When we get home. I'm the girlfriend who WON'T give you diseases."

"Might go to bed early tonight," he laughed. His voice changed a bit. "She's gonna go crazy figuring out who you've done it with."

"I told her 'one and only'."

"Really?"

"Not in those exact words."

"That's really gonna get her going. She'll want to know, just so she's got something on you."

"Why would she want something on me? I try to be her friend."

"Because," he stated, "that's just her. Her nature. She ... when she talks, she always wants to end up on top of whatever's being said."

"I know that. But this..."

"No different to her. Just be careful."

"We both need to be careful."

So we carefully parked in our driveway and didn't hold hands as we went into our house.

Life continued on, nearing the end of the school year. I did my last gymnastics tournament, a good one at the state capital, using facilities at the university. I placed well, getting a gold on the balance beam. Our team placed second in the state.

Coaches for more advanced programs identified me and talked with Mom and Dad about my future. "We see potential for a national-level gymnast."

That's a little girl dream - Jeannie on the podium at the Olympics. But Jeannie's read enough about those programs to know that they don't make room for Jeannie the school girl and especially for Jeannie, mate of Johnny.

But I didn't say that at the meet.

An overnight stay. Actually TWO nights. True to his word, Dad reserved adjoining rooms and gave one over to me and Johnny. They locked the door between the rooms from their side. I guess maybe they didn't want to be disrupted either.

Johnny gives a really good massage of hard-worked muscles, and his technique for easing mental stress is superb.

It was a strange feeling to wake up in an unfamiliar bed with one's mate lying nude beside my own naked body, and we've learned about early morning teases and caresses and how often they end up with us intertwined together.

A soft knock on the door and Mom's voice. "Let's go get breakfast."

"She coulda called," Johnny said.

"I know, but Mom ... Just reminding us that there's a door that THEY gave us."

"You think?"

"Yes," I said, getting out of bed. "Them letting us be like this, that's a BIG step." I turned so he could see me completely naked, standing there before him because I love him and this is one way to show it.

When he stood, I noted that he was mostly hard. I like that. It means he gets affected by me just like I get affected by him. I walk over and give him a friendly squeeze for a promise.

Once dressed, we're out the door as a family. Nobody can see anything different, except maybe that a teen brother and sister should be a little more aggravating to each other.

I was at the convention hall before eight. This was the state tourney, a big one, and schedules were tight. I'm used to being herded around, though.

Maybe just a little bit of my competitive edge has disappeared, though, because as I was waiting for my turn at the first event, my mind wandered to Johnny, Mom and Dad sitting in the stands, and I thought about the little promise to Johnny before we dressed.

Yeah, it's like that.

By the end of the day I'd garnered second in balance beam, third in floor routine, and second in parallel bars. My vault was a surprise, a first place.

I didn't get first overall. The same girl beat me out on the beam and parallel bars. She's awesome, but she's also in the grips of coaches who are grooming her for the national level. I know who those coaches are. A pair of them approached me and Mom & Dad.

We listened to what they had to say. Mom and Dad said what I thought they'd say, politely indicating that they would discuss the idea. You can imagine the discussion after we left the conference center, headed for dinner, then the hotel.

Johnny wasn't in on the original conversation, so he asked some questions to learn what was going on. I can read his face. He's scared that I might actually WANT to do that. It would mean living away from home. The facility recruiting me would offer studies and tutoring to make sure I did not miss out on academics, plus they would put me into a highly structured training regimen with national-level coaches, facilities and trainers.

A year ago I would have leapt for joy.

A year ago I wasn't Johnny's mate.

After dinner, Mom said, "It's too much to digest in one evening. Sleep on it. We might have better understanding in the morning."

After we showered, Johnny and I went back to Mom and Dad's room to say good night, then we returned to our room, closing the door behind us.

I know Johnny's been working up the courage to ask THE question.

"Would you go off to that place?"

"Last year, I dreamed about it. Now..."

"I don't want to get in your way. You could be on the national team."

"Johnny, first, there are dozens of girls at MY level. The competition gets fiercer, the higher up the ladder I get. It almost has to be an obsession." I paused, kissed him. "I only have room for ONE obsession..."

"I didn't mean for this to change your whole life..."

"What makes you think that YOU had that much say in it? Who went into YOUR room? Who kissed YOU first?"

"Yeah, but..."

"Yeah, but nothing. I wouldn't be lying here with you if I thought what we had was a throwaway. Forever, Johnny..."

He wrapped his arms around me. "I want it to be, my baby, but your dreams..."

" ... are holding me right now."

"Jeannie, are you SURE?"

"I'm very sure. I mean, I don't have to give up gymnastics, but I'm NOT going to try for the nationals. Not if it means leaving YOU. And I seriously doubt they'd let me share a room with my brother."

"I'd miss you, sis, but if that's your dream."

"One more time. You're my dream."

He squeezed me harder. "That's so sad, then. You're my dream, too."

Okay, if you're in bed naked with the guy you love and 'I love you' gets tossed around a bit, things are going to happen. Wonderful things.

I guess we could just slide together and do it, but that first one, there's a chance he'll get off and I won't, well, not until he gets his mouth or his fingers on me afterward. But just a little playing, well, that's where I get my first and second and sometimes third and he's usually coming in my mouth, and after that is a good time to cuddle and say loving things to each other. Then when he's hard again, we couple and it's him and me sharing each other in a way I don't think anybody else understands, at least not the 'experienced' girls.

Tonight when we orgasmed, Johnny kept me atop him. I felt when he finally softened and fell out of me. "Ohhhh," I sighed.

"Turn around before we leave a spot on the bed, baby."

So that's the last step. One more for little Jeannie before she goes to sleep, holding her brother's soft dick.

I woke up before him, light filtering around the room's drapes. It gives me time for an inventory. I'm realistic. Mom and Dad would surely support me if I desired to take the offer for the advanced training opportunity, but even if I did reach the pinnacle, like the national team, where would that put me in the future? Running all over from one national or international event or another, times in between filled with hard training, and when I finally got too old or too messed up physically, I'd be out and honestly, how many top gymnasts do you know after they're off the stage?

Next to me, covers halfway down his body, baring all twenty-three of his chest hairs, face angelic, that guy loves me. He's beside me now, and I think he'll be beside me for the rest of our lives. There's my decision.

I know several ways he loves being wakened. I use a combination.

"Gosh, Jeannie, I love you so much."

"Good!" I kissed him. "I need to tell Mom and Dad that I decided my future is here with you.""
I then checked out all of the other chapters and all ened with "There is more of this text...".
I also looked it up with other stories to test it and all have it.
CU
Booker

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@xyz_abc

I just found that parts auf a story seem to be missing.
I read My Present by Oyster50 chapter 10.
At the and it said:
"I smiled. "Probably. And I think she has no idea of how wonderful it is. No stress. No sneaking. No hiding. No wondering who's tonight or who's next. Just me and the guy who'll be mine forever."
There is more of this text...

That would only happen if you jump to the end.

Due to massive scraping of the site's contents (which grew exponentially recently) I had to change how the stories are served.

As of today, downloading is not as easy and automated downloading/scraping is very hard.

If you read normally and scroll as you read, you shouldn't face any of that behaviour. The missing text is loading on scrolling past a certain point. One shouldn't even see it (unless you're on a terribly slow internet connection).

awnlee jawking 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

That would only happen if you jump to the end.

That's worrying.

When reading a newly posted chapter of an ongoing serial, I quite often open the previous chapter and jump to the end to remind myself of how it finished :-(

AJ

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@awnlee jawking

That's worrying.

Nothing to worry about. Scroll up and then down few pixel and the missing text will load.

Replies:   xyz_abc
xyz_abc 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

That a working soloution if you open a story to read it.
But it doesn't work if you use reading view in firefox to read chapters.
It takes the page after loading it and doesn't reload it after you scroll down.
It more relaxing to read a story if you can edit font size text width and spacing to your liking. It is really eye friendly on portable devices. No fingers in the text while scrolling for example.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@xyz_abc

It more relaxing to read a story if you can edit font size text width and spacing to your liking.

Good thing then that the site has provided extensive customization ability for the last 20 years...

Lumpy 🚫

@xyz_abc

Isn't the edit font size an option in your account settings?

Quasirandom 🚫

@xyz_abc

Also a problem if you're in reading view in Safari/iOS, which is the easy way to switch into any sort of dark mode at night. Have to switch back to a bright screen to get the rest, and because the reader-view scrolling is invisible to the server, it thinks you're back where you were when you switched to reader-view and yanks you back there, thus losing your place in the story.

Not a pleasant reading experience, that.

Mountfox 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

please announce that as a change somewhere visible because I almost posted bug report because of this change. thanks

xyz_abc 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Hi,
But why doesn't a click on the the reload button help?
Last time then I opened a chapter and got the to many connnections error just pressing the reload button display the correct chapter.
CU
Booker

Grant 🚫
Updated:

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

If you read normally and scroll as you read, you shouldn't face any of that behaviour. The missing text is loading on scrolling past a certain point. One shouldn't even see it (unless you're on a terribly slow internet connection).

I've got a 100Mb/s down 40Mb/s up connection with 1-2ms latency to my local ISP's server.
I scroll down as a read the story- and I still have to scroll up & then back down to get the rest of the page to load nine times out of ten. And even then it takes longer to start loading than when clicking on the link to the next chapter & it starts to load.

As annoying as having to scroll up & then down again to get it to start loading is, it's the 2 or more seconds delay before it then actually starts to load that's even more annoying IMHO.

Edit- I've got a 3840 * 2160 monitor, so my browser window is vertically very tall. This may or may not be affecting the point at which the normal scrolling-as-you-read triggers the rest of the text to load.

doctor_wing_nut 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

If you read normally and scroll as you read, you shouldn't face any of that behaviour.

Not true for me, I still get the 'there is more' warning on many stories. Now that I know it's effecting others as well I'm not so concerned, really a minor annoyance at best but it was surprising when it cropped up.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@doctor_wing_nut

Not true for me, I still get the 'there is more' warning on many stories. Now that I know it's effecting others as well I'm not so concerned, really a minor annoyance at best but it was surprising when it cropped up.

I added a couple of buttons to help when it doesn't work automatically.

PeakGenre 🚫

@xyz_abc

Agreed, not a fan of this new functionality. It is very distracting as it does not anticipate the viewport well and expands after the "There is more of this text... " shows on the screen in a jarring way.

And it certainly won't solve the scraping problem for very long. That is a losing battle.

kilgour2 🚫

@xyz_abc

Help!...All the chapters of all of the stories that I am reading(i.E Better Man Chapter 28) chops off with "there is more of this text"..tried everything..will not load the additional text..please fix this..thanks..kilgour

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@kilgour2

Help!...All the chapters of all of the stories that I am reading(i.E Better Man Chapter 28) chops off with "there is more of this text"..tried everything..will not load the additional text..please fix this..thanks..kilgour

That happens when javascript is off in your browser. Turn it on and allow the stories script to load.

Replies:   Sleepy69
Sleepy69 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

I have the same problem in ie, and i have javascript on, and still get the text: there is more of this text.. It works in edge, but i don't like edge for youre site. Ie is the best for my use, and now it will not load the full page. Do you have other sugestions to fix it?

Replies:   Grant
Grant 🚫

@Sleepy69

I have the same problem in ie, and i have javascript on, and still get the text: there is more of this text.. It works in edge, but i don't like edge for youre site. Ie is the best for my use, and now it will not load the full page. Do you have other sugestions to fix it?

I used to use IE, but now use the current version of Edge.
If you don't like Edge, then i'd suggest giving Firefox a go.

The fact is that IE is no longer supported by M$, and other than some internal corporate usage, no one develops for IE compatibility anymore.
IE is long dead, and if a web site does work with it it's either because it hasn't been changed significantly in the last few years, or it's just a case of luck.

tedbronson 🚫
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@xyz_abc

Well, if you use speech-to-text, and that's what I do when I'm driving, this is now a big distraction.

fafhrd 🚫
Updated:

@xyz_abc

Nice Halloween trick. I too have javascript enabled and scrolled down while reading to find this stupid thing... and no more text, of course. So there's another failure mode, probably related to the slew of

Uncaught TypeError: localStorage is null

messages in the debug window.

I dunno, but I suspect there's an issue with the javascript - other sites seem to be able to store local data according to firefox's data summary. Unless this localdata is different from "site data"?

Grant 🚫

@xyz_abc

Don't know if anything has been tweaked, but the pages are now generally loading without me having to go back up & then down again.

NickP 🚫
Updated:

@xyz_abc

For some reason this "feature" dosn't work in Firefox 93.0 (64-bit) for me, but works fine in Chrome.

May be security settings which was tweaked in Firefox...

Just to let you know.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@xyz_abc

Well, it seems the code was buggier than expected. Since the code's deployment, the load on the servers was too high. The system had to spin up enough web servers to reach the set limit. And the site was still too slow.

I've currently turned off the code and the site is back to what it was yesterday.

I'll work to fix the new code as it's needed and re-deploy when really ready.

Replies:   BlacKnight  NickP
BlacKnight 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Please don't.

I've had a lot of problems with JavaScript-heavy pages, particularly that sort of "infinite scrolling" stuff, causing my browser to hemorrhage memory until I have to kill it to make the machine usable again. Restarting my zillion-windows-and-tabs browser session is a huge pain in the ass.

And sometimes I read in terminal-mode browsers like lynx that don't even have JavaScript available.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@BlacKnight

Please don't.

I don't want to. It's already giving me big headache, but I have to.

When bot traffic starts dwarfing legit traffic, and slowing down the site at its peak, a solution needs to be found and implemented. Hopefully we don't reach the need to use 'click to prove your humanity'.

particularly that sort of "infinite scrolling" stuff.

Similar, but not the same. Nothing keeps running and keeps adding endlessly. Once it loads the second part it stops.

And sometimes I read in terminal-mode browsers like lynx that don't even have JavaScript available.

That I can't help you with.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater  Lumpy
Ernest Bywater 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Hopefully we don't reach the need to use 'click to prove your humanity'.

For heaven's sake, if it does get that bad, please use the original Captcha system and not the Google owned ReCaptcha as the ReCRAPTCHA requires me to turn off the basic security of disallowing 3rd party cookies and I end up with all sorts of crap being uploaded by Google when they run the ReCRAPTCHA code. There are some sites I've stopped using because of them insisting on using the Google Gargleblaster ReCRAPTCHA.

Replies:   Keet
Keet 🚫

@Ernest Bywater

For heaven's sake, if it does get that bad, please use the original Captcha system and not the Google owned ReCaptcha as the ReCRAPTCHA requires me to turn off the basic security of disallowing 3rd party cookies and I end up with all sorts of crap being uploaded by Google when they run the ReCRAPTCHA code. There are some sites I've stopped using because of them insisting on using the Google Gargleblaster ReCRAPTCHA.

Hear, Hear. I refuse to access sites that require that google crap. And they get an angry email with a complaint that their site should be accessible without google crap.

Lumpy 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

When bot traffic starts dwarfing legit traffic, and slowing down the site at its peak, a solution needs to be found and implemented. Hopefully we don't reach the need to use 'click to prove your humanity'.

My day job involves working with the backend of websites, and I don't think people realize how bad bot traffic is these days. The volume can make it hard to even keep websites from crashing under the weight of it. It's really out of control.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Lumpy

It's really out of control.

Tell me about it.

An example on SOL:

Some, somewhere, somehow, has a timer that fires 12:15AM EDT, that downloads between 3000 and 8000 stories.

They have created more than a couple of thousand accounts and are using more than 300 different IP addresses to hit the site. Then another hit at 3:00am. Then another hit at 6:00am.

So somebody with lots of resources is doing this.

It's done in a way that is nearly impossible to detect and block without blocking a lot of legit traffic.

So, I need a solution!

Replies:   Michael Loucks  Lumpy
Michael Loucks 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

So, I need a solution!

I'm curiousβ€”have you found sites republishing SOL material?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)
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@Michael Loucks

I found several sites that duplicate SOL in the past. So they have a domain, and when you go there, you think you're accessing SOL (without the branding). Their script pulls whatever page you request from SOL, removes any reference to SOL and then serves it to you. But they don't do the log in. I found a way to block those.

What's going on now is not clear. They're being very smart about it. The only thing I have proof that something is going on is the 'logged in' traffic that spikes, quite a bit, on a schedule. I haven't been able to figure out specific IP address or even accounts. However is doing it, is not downloading more than 25 stories per account per day. So lots of accounts, and lots of IP addresses are being used to do this in a way that can't be easily detected.

SOL has been online for over twenty years now. The contents published here is also published on many sites by their original authors and by thieves. It's hard to find the new stuff and figure out what this content is being used for.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

There's a limit on stories accessed per day for free accounts (which you upped for the pandemic).

What about a secondary temporary limit on stories per hour that activates under heavy load then deactivates automatically when load drops again.

Lumpy 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Yep, that's the kind of thing I've seen. I've been using a thing called project security to capture and block bad IPS. It took some fine tuning and some real people get blocked, but I have a big thing that tells them if they were blocked by accident to contact webmaster and they'll get whitelisted. Most of the bad IPS come off the same hosted servers like ovh and Amazon. The first few weeks it blocked thousands of ips an hour, but after six months it's down to a few hundred a day. Most users don't seem to have an issue reaching out and getting unblocked and it brought my sites under control.

NickP 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

I'm not sure if it didn't turned off for some reason or turned on again. But it still don't load part of text in Firefox (which I preffer to use).

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@NickP

I'm not sure if it didn't turned off for some reason or turned on again. But it still don't load part of text in Firefox (which I preffer to use).

Are you reading on-screen or trying to save to your computer?

So far most of the complaints that I got turned out to be from people right-clicking a link to download the text, which bypasses the scripts.

pnwradar 🚫

@xyz_abc

Neat, stories are now unreadable on my older iPad, the "Click to load text" button does nothing. Yes, javascript is enabled for Safari. I get -why- you're doing it, still a PITA.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@pnwradar

stories are now unreadable on my older iPad

Not that I can fix it, but how old is this iPad? Is it an Apple or something else?

Replies:   pnwradar
pnwradar 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

It's a 2nd gen Apple iPad, running IOS 9.3, and already end-of-life'd by Apple so no more updates or fixes. It does web browse, and Kindle works, so still a usable tool for reading.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@pnwradar

IOS 9 is not THAT old.

when you view a story, what happens if you tap the 'Show Story Details' link under the title?

Replies:   pnwradar
pnwradar 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Nothing currently, that's also new behavior, previously the details would unscroll down.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@pnwradar

It's the same mechanism and that was untouched. If it worked before, then there is no reason for it to stop working.

Try force rebooting the iPad. Hold down the home and power buttons until the apple shows up.

Replies:   pnwradar
pnwradar 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

After a force reboot, both the details link and the load text links still do nothing.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater 🚫

@pnwradar

I'd suggest checking your browser settings. I can say how you do it as to me an eye pad is something you put on a sore eye.

buddha_recondo_1 🚫

@xyz_abc

Getting the same "there is more text" link while reading long chapters of stories. this started on 11/1/21. Using Opera browser. It's annoying when I get into the flow of the story. and slam into the "brick wall".

is there a fix?

Replies:   Grant
Grant 🚫

@buddha_recondo_1

is there a fix?

Click on the link, wait a bit, then click on the link again.

Been making plenty of use of it as the auto load hasn't been working since the feature was re-enabled (haven't actually tried scrolling up then down again as the click & click again is much less hassle).

Replies:   buddha_recondo_1
buddha_recondo_1 🚫
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@Grant

not a fix,

when I click a chapter the system should upload the chapter in full, not a portion.

Still getting this text even after clearing my cache and turning Javescript off and on.

All research has pointed me to this being a server side issue.

Grant 🚫

@buddha_recondo_1

not a fix,

A work around then.

when I click a chapter the system should upload the chapter in full, not a portion.

If you can get the people that are ripping off the stories on the site to stop doing so then i'm quite sure Lazeez will be more than happy to turn the feature off again.

Still getting this text even after clearing my cache and turning Javescript off and on.

With time Lazeez may be able to sort out why it works sometimes & not others depending on the OS, it's version, the browser & it's version, Javascript & it's version, and all the various possible settings for each that impact on each other.

Till then, click & click again.
It's better than the alternative of not being able to get any stories at all.

Replies:   ian_macf
ian_macf 🚫

@Grant

It's better than the alternative of not being able to get any stories at all.

Amen

Ian

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@buddha_recondo_1

when I click a chapter the system should upload the chapter in full, not a portion.

Due to abuse, this is the way it has to be from now on.

Also, because of user behaviour (repeatedly reloading in hope to get the whole text), I turned off auto-loading the rest until everybody get used to having the buttons.

So currently, it will not load automatically. Free members will have to click the button to load the rest.

Replies:   Keet  LupusDei
Keet 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

So currently, it will not load automatically. Free members will have to click the button to load the rest.

You should advertise that as another perk for premium members: no loading buttons.

Replies:   Switch Blayde
Switch Blayde 🚫

@Keet

You should advertise that as another perk for premium members: no loading buttons.

Only if you can explain clearly why it's happening (and I for one don't quite understand it after reading these posts).

Otherwise the free members will think they are being punished.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son 🚫

@Switch Blayde

Only if you can explain clearly why it's happening

This post explains why.
https://storiesonline.net/d/s1/t9203/new-site-behaviour-click

LupusDei 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Buttons seem to be bad idea unless you're setting them up with a behavior trap highlighting potential bots. It seems just a matter of time the scrappers would adjust and script-click the "load more" until it's not there.

No pro on it, but I have been on the bad guys side twice, and the shocking thing is how easy it all is.

First was long ago, one new group buy coupon site wanted to populate with another's content. Well, they kept all the links, so one might say free advertising, even if they did reskin it as theirs. I wondered why they couldn't just ask and exchange data in a nice easy format officially, as it could be indeed mutually beneficial, but got only shrugs.

So I read a bit and few days later had the thing running -- yes, completely from scratch without prior experience on the subject --, looking for new content and participating updates on the other site every hour. In a nice, slow throttled way helped with how they had helpful highlights in category and list views so what I did was indeed just a very curious user methodically browsing the site scribbling down numbers and links on the way.

I checked in about a year later and the script was still running despite some minor changes of design on the target site that wasn't addressed degrading some of the information, only someone had upped the crawl speed way, way up. The target site didn't seem to care, but as I said, it was parasitic but sent traffic back to them too, so not all bad.

Second, there was a browser game. And one of the most tedious things in it was, you would click on dozens of thighs out of thousands one by one, click one of the buttons on the new page, look for a couple things there, do little math to get a number, then go back and decide on with one you want to click again to click a different button and then enter that number in the next screen.

So on one guy's request I wrote a browser extension injecting javascript client side that forged requests for that second page down on-hover and displayed the number calculated over those things directly in the main view. And on the details page I added a button that directly sent already filled in form from the next page. I also used local storage to repopulate those overlays after every page refresh or navigation, including logging out and back in. It could and did change, but wasn't very dynamic information and I indicated when it's getting old, eventually discarding it after a set time or when associated graphics changed.

There was some anti-bot defenses, thus the on-hover event not just a barrage of requests, but also there was many thousands of those things and nobody would be interested in all of them at once anyway. Even so I had to insert timers because too many clicks too close together could trigger defenses, and it was configured in a way a pro gamer could trigger it, actually. So my feature worked only if you relatively slowly lingered over things and didn't fire on fast sweeps over the screen, but it still was huge quality of life improvement.

The feedback from my users (eventually in hundreds) was that it was just how the game should have been in the first place. So about a year later I sent it to the game devs as a paid feature suggestion, but never heard back. Nor were any players ever banned for using it. Well, the game was going down and died soon after, and no, I doubt my special fun contributed to that much, although it was potentially saving literally hours a day in certain exploitive grind behaviors for dedicated players.

Ernest Bywater 🚫

@xyz_abc

Lazeez, I just sent a message with a suggestion about this, but just after I hit send, I realised I was on the Finestories contact page and not the SoL contact page, sorry. Please read as if meant for Sol.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Ernest Bywater

Please read as if meant for Sol.

Understood.

I'm hesitating to say this, because people may think that I did this to annoy people into paying, which I'm not.

Any paid account, even just the network bypass account ($18.99 per year when purchased alone) bypasses the click for more button. Any payment proves that one is not a bot.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Any payment proves that one is not a bot.

Unless they're also a member of the US Congress or the Australian parliament.

Sorry, it was too good an opportunity to let go.

fafhrd 🚫

@xyz_abc

I noticed the change to the load buttons, but this did nothing to make it work better in Firefox with what I consider minimal add-ons and privacy settings. The first click, right, displays click again message. So does the second click, third, ...

I can't tell if the click twice version was expected to make any difference... maybe it was just that I hoped that was why it changed.

Replies:   Grant
Grant 🚫

@fafhrd

I noticed the change to the load buttons, but this did nothing to make it work better in Firefox with what I consider minimal add-ons and privacy settings. The first click, right, displays click again message. So does the second click, third, ...

No problems with Edge and slightly higher than the default privacy & security settings.

Just have to make sure not to treat it like a double click link.
Click, wait for it to change, wait a little bit more & click again. No issues.

madnige 🚫

@Grant

Just have to make sure not to treat it like a double click link.

This could be enforced by having the first button to the left, and the second in the centre.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Grant

Just have to make sure not to treat it like a double click link.

I changed the behaviour slightly. On the first click, for those on a slow connection, before the second button is ready, it now displays a please wait image. Then when the data returns, it displays the second button.

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