Several readers and authors have a smoking or vaping fetish, but many are offended by smoking / vaping.
Would it be possible to add a tag for 'Smoking' or 'Smoke/Vape'?
Several readers and authors have a smoking or vaping fetish, but many are offended by smoking / vaping.
Would it be possible to add a tag for 'Smoking' or 'Smoke/Vape'?
There are currently 49,377 Stories Available on SoL
33 mention smoking in their description.
28 mention vape in their description.
It seems you are proposing a solution to an almost inconsequential problem.
If a reader is honestly offended because a character in a story is portrayed as being a smoker or vape user, they simply need to stop reading that story and choose another from the 49,300 plus available to them.
Several readers and authors have a smoking or vaping fetish, but many are offended by smoking / vaping.
What about "snuff" stories?
I'm not sure if you were trying to be humorous or sarcastic, or not.
In case you're not, the "snuff" tag is for scenes where a person is killed during sex. It has nothing to do with tobacco snuff / chewing tobacco.
If you were being humorous, ha ha, very funny.
I'm not sure if you were trying to be humorous or sarcastic, or not.
Both, hence the quotation marks as I can't understand what the issue is. It's not likely you will get cancer from reading a story that has smoking in it.
The one time I tried chewing tobacco I wasn't told nit to shallow.
That kind of squick is something I have a hard time understanding. A dirty Sanchez, snuff, water sports, etc, those squicks I understand. Smoking and or vaping, I fail to see what there is to be squicky about.
I would think it a rare person with such a squick to the point of being unable to even read about it. As such, a specific tag might be over the top.
Edited to correct autocorrect
You should probably remonstrate with your autocorrect.
The term is "squick" not "squeak".
Perhaps he had a mouse problem ;-)
AJ
Perhaps he had a mouse problem ;-)
She had the right of it. I should have went back and fixed it before posting.
ETA: With some people's reactions, it could be a squeak as well.
Squicks aren't the only reason to have tags.
There are tags for 'true story' and 'romantic'. How many people are disgusted by stories because they really happened, and how many would get ill reading about something romantic?
Genies don't make me sick but I'm not interested in them, so having a 'Genie' tag is still helpful.
There are tags for 'true story' and 'romantic'.
As discussed previously on the forum, 'True story' is a much abused tag.
IMO 'Romantic' is also often abused. Some authors seem to pretty much equate it with orgasm count. I prefer Grey Wolf's interpretation (VoaT Book 3):
"We headed off to the car, holding hands, and I got us on the road towards her house. Honestly, teasing aside, I had no particular concern for whether we headed to her bedroom or not. We'd been there yesterday, after all, and today was much more about romance than sex."
Sex is neither necessary nor sufficient for a story to deserve the 'Romantic' tag.
AJ
playing devils advocate I'd say the real purpose of it would be to op-in to stories with smoking as a fetish in them. seen in mentioned in a few descriptions warning people that it's contained in the story but feel that the real use would be for people actually looking for it.
I see that a new tag has been created, 'Smoking'. I would like to say 'Thank you' to the person who made the change.
I would like to say 'Thank you'
Then why don't you? It's rather obvious you'd LIKE to do that, but you haven't actually DONE so.
Sorry, but that's my favorite nit-pick on our language. I'd like to thank you, I want to thank you ... that actually doesn't say thank you, it simply says you'd like to do it, or you want to do it, not that you're actually DOING IT!
Change the subject and see how it fits. I'd like to have sex with you, I want to have sex with you. See? That's showing you'd like or want to do something, not that you're actually having sex with them.
I'd like to thank you, I want to thank you ... that actually doesn't say thank you,
That happened in the movie "Road to Perdition." At a meeting of gangsters after the head gangster's son killed one of them, the head gangster (Paul Newman) asked his son (Daniel Craig) if he wanted to say something to the group. When the son said "I'd like to apologize…", his father got angry and berated him until he said, "I apologize."
I don't know who made he change, therefore I don't know who to thank. To whomever made the change, THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
(Is that good enough?)
I don't get the point of adding such a tag.
Hate it?
If you are old enough, nearly everyone you knew smoked.
Probably by now, most of 'em are dead, lots of 'em from smoking. Sad, but not your fault unless you encouraged them to smoke. No reason to be upset.
Like it?
OTOH, smoking, if you do it, is for after sex, not instead of. Unless you're really strange.
OTOH, smoking, if you do it, is for after sex, not instead of. Unless you're really strange.
What about smoking during sex?
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smoky%20blowjob
Not for me; but some people like sucking toes, smearing food on their partner, or eating creampies.
To me, smoky blowjobs and watching a female vape or smoke while I'm in her are... indescribably hot.
To each their own.
I have noticed they have started using warning tags for smoking and flashing lights at the start of movies now.
they have started using warning tags for smoking and flashing lights at the start of movies
Flashing lights can trigger epileptic fits, so they can cause physical harm.
Smoking scenes are far more dangerous because they might affect the sensibilities of generation snowflake ;-)
AJ
affect the sensibilities of generation snowflake
I can think of a few OTHER things to affect their sensibilities, too. Reality, for one thing.
I can't think of anything that doesn't affect the sensibilities of generation snowflake. That's why they are generation snowflake. :)
As of today there are 30 stories with the 'smoking' tag.
28 of them posted by an author who bears a striking resemblance to the OP of this thread.
Is this an acceptable way of promoting your stories? Request a new tag that addresses a niche fetish only you concentrate on?
Welcome to cynicism 101
If I wanted to promote my stories and make them as popular as possible, I'd only write about using magic or mind control for incest. I write the types of things I like to read. If others enjoy, great. If not, no big deal. I make no money from writing either way. I requested the 'smoking' tag after more than 10 readers complained they didn't like stories that include smoking. Another 5 or so scolded me for not including the 'smoking' tag, before it even existed. But back to writing... Have a nice day.
Is this an acceptable way of promoting your stories? Request a new tag that addresses a niche fetish only you concentrate on?
It's a legitimate fetish. See the smokey blow job link I posted up thread.
So what if it's a niche fetish? Why shouldn't such fetishes get served too?
So what if it's a niche fetish? Why shouldn't such fetishes get served too?
It does indeed seem fair to include a niche fetish.
However, doing so would more than double the number of existing tags. Not just the fetish ones. ALL of them.
The aim in tag selection is clarity, choosing tags that are useful to the community whilst restricting the total number to manageable proportions.
Adding a tag that caters to one author and apparently ten readers is as previously stated, "a solution to an almost inconsequential problem".
Sometimes precedents exist only to bite one in the ass later.
RoustWriter hasn't (yet) added it to 'Arlene and Jeff'.
If I remember correctly it only plays a minimal part in the first part of the story. In the rest of the story it is rarely mentioned if at all. Someone specifically looking for the smoking fetish will be sorely disappointed. I see the smoking tag as useful for readers looking for that fetish, not really as a warning code.
If I remember correctly it only plays a minimal part in the first part of the story.
It's deemed important enough to be mentioned in the story description. If 'smoking' as a fetish is particularly rare, perhaps the story description would be a better place for it than a tag.
AJ
If 'smoking' as a fetish is particularly rare, perhaps the story description would be a better place for it than a tag.
I'd argue the exact opposite.
For those looking for it as a fetish, a category search is both easier and more precise than searching description text where you wade through false positives for things like the female lead being described as "smoking-hot".
The fewer true matches there are, the more advantageous it is to be able to use the category search.
It's not like having the tag available and used on a small number of stories in any way inconveniences anyone not looking for it.
false positives for things like the female lead being described as "smoking-hot"
There are currently no SOL stories containing 'smoking-hot' or 'smoking hot' in their descriptions ;-)
AJ
There are currently no SOL stories containing 'smoking-hot' or 'smoking hot' in their descriptions ;-)
The point still stands that a category search is both easier and more precise than a key word search of descriptions, especially for rare fetishes.
The point still stands that a category search is both easier and more precise than a key word search of descriptions, especially for rare fetishes.
I'm not convinced that a tag for a fetish with zero matching stories is the tag acme.
AJ
It's deemed important enough to be mentioned in the story description. If 'smoking' as a fetish is particularly rare, perhaps the story description would be a better place for it than a tag.
True, but if RoustWriter had to write an up-to-date description I doubt it would be mentioned. That description was written at the start of the story and at that time smoking was part of the story.
if RoustWriter had to write an up-to-date description I doubt it would be mentioned.
If RoustWriter were to revisit the early chapters, the smoking part might well be removed. It seems inconsistent with little one's enhancements.
AJ
If RoustWriter were to revisit the early chapters, the smoking part might well be removed. It seems inconsistent with little one's enhancements.
Yep, very likely and certainly better for consistency.
The aim in tag selection is clarity, choosing tags that are useful to the community whilst restricting the total number to manageable proportions.
Clarity is the aim in the author selecting tags to their story.
I disagree that restricting the available tags to choose from adds anything useful to that goal.
You also have to take into account that smoking is becoming a squick for a increasing number of people. To the point that some are openly advocating mandatory warnings on movies that depict smoking.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2016/02/521282-films-screen-smoking-should-carry-warnings-protect-children-un-health-agency
Adding a tag that caters to one author and apparently ten readers is as previously stated, "a solution to an almost inconsequential problem".
Lazeez apparently thought otherwise, or he though the cost of the solution was equally inconsequential. That ought to end that part of the discussion.
When I see 'UN' and 'health agency', it's a red flag for Chinese influence. Is the growing epidemic of wokeness a communist plot to undermine western civilisation?
AJ
Words ending in "king" make me think about being royal, a king. If you are Waking (or maybe walking) you are king of Wa, which is Washington, abbreviated,, at least by the post office. If you are drinking you are king of drin. If you are thinking you are king of thin. Reading porn make make you think about being king of fuc.