Forum: Bug Report and Feature Requests

You failed to mention all the ex hooters waitresses, who Laz calls servers. They used to be naked to ensure the drives stayed hard, but since the PG13 rated sister sites were launched, Laz made the servers wear clothes and ensured the drives stayed hard by installing a sand trap between the power supply and the CPU...

ETA

A very expensive A/C system ensures the servers don't overheat, as even clothed they are still damn hot. However, Lazeez's office is kept comfortably warmed by all the hot air generated by this forum.

No umpalumpas?

No umpalumpas?

Umpalumpas make chocolate, not electrons.

Now I'm curious, what OS are you running on all those servers?

Thank You, I might not understand how you get them all to play nice with each other and there was more behind the curtain than I pictured in my mind as to the number of servers.

I was thinking more like all the nuts and bolts to keep SOL up and running as in

Every day you use a MAC or PC / desktop or laptop to do coding and testing or do you have 1 of each .

Do you have to have say an iphone and an android to test with as well as tablets stuff like that.

It is all that little stuff that is behind the curtain that really goes into making SOL work.

Thank You. It is neat to see some of the little stuff that it takes to make SOL such a great site and sorry for laughing at the idea that some people might get the idea for some reason that you might not like chrome :)

of course we know this not to be true as the Google ads tell us how much everyone ..............

Thank You for your time and effort as your work is most appreciated.

I run it in Incognito mode in the hope that not so much gets reported to Google. And specify DuckDuckGo as my search engine for the same reason.

I use Chrome on Linux and Android as I have not found a browser I like better.

Ian

I run it in Incognito mode in the hope that not so much gets reported to Google.

Uhm, Chrome is from Google. Do you really think incognito mode will restrict Google from getting 'telemetry' data? Try Firefox. It might not be everything you look for in a browser but it definitely respects your privacy a lot better. It also has a lot more features and extensions you can add. Uses less resources too.

I did say "in the hope"

I dislike Firefox. Every time I try it I get annoyed. Even in Private mode (on Android, anyway) it has access to websites I visited last time round, so it does not respect my privacy. YMMV.

Ian

Even in Private mode (on Android, anyway) it has access to websites I visited last time round, so it does not respect my privacy. YMMV.

That's probably because you retain your history and local storage. Set your preferences to store nothing and there won't be anything left after you close the browser.

As far as I can see there is no Setting for History in Firefox for Android. I have "Delete browsing data on quit" set on but previously visited sites are still there next time I open.

Ian

Look up "firefox klar".

You're using Chrome and Android. You have no privacy whatsoever.

I guess I should have switched to an iPhone when I upgraded instead of Samsung. I'm just too addicted to the Android back key.

I go to many inconveniences to avoid Google tracking people on SOL

And that shows and is very much appreciated. I block everything from google if half possible, which includes for example google fonts. That shows on most sites that show weird characters because of that but not on SOL.

Even when you don't use their DNS, if the website you're visiting uses fonts from Google, then they're tracking you.

When I use the state of Arizona website I cannot use Safari. They tell me it's not tested with Safari and to use Chrome so I do.

There are two levels with that kind of thing:
- they are simply saying they have not tested with Safari and "use this at your own risk". Ignore until Safari fails.
- they have browser sniffing and reject browsers not in their "approved" list. In that case you either accept the constraints or spoof "their" browser.
It must be around 5-6 years ago now, but the company website for the firm I used to work with *only* accepted Internet Explorer (some specified level). When Microsoft themselves designated their browser as unsafe, they finally changed their code and I think they then fixed on Firefox.

IE had some non-standard "features" and some of their web stuff depended on them. This was in the company's internal network so they could make those decisions.

IE had some non-standard "features" and some of their web stuff depended on them. This was in the company's internal network so they could make those decisions.

This, IE has some OS-Specific tie-ins which were proprietary in nature, so if you were using an information infrastructure that relied heavily on those things, the only browser which would work with it would be IE.

R. Soles.

I usually have two browsers open at any one time, and it is very much a case of "render unto Caesar" - I use specific browsers (and even profiles) for specific groups of sites and my bookmarks match that.
You obviously have to use something like Chrome to file your TPT returns. Have you tried Edge for Mac? Microsoft's Chrome-based browser. I use Linux and don't have Edge installed but I don't use Chrome either so there is no requirement.

I've never been told to use Firefox when I have a problem with a site..

Of course not! Firefox is not from google, or microsoft. or any other big money grabbing company. And it respects privacy! Imagine, respecting privacy. And anonymity! And it's open source! Ugh, can't have us supporting that kind of software.
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Of course not! Firefox is not from google, or microsoft. or any other big money grabbing company.

So tell us what do you suggest we use then when Government or business that we are forced to use don't support Firefox ? I've tried Firefox with the companies I deal with and I get a screen that shows boxes with "images unable to load and the text is all shifted around where read it is next to impossible. Maybe if I had the ability to choose another company to do business with then I would have options but when your choices are limited to just 1 out of a selection of 1 then you are simply forced into doing it their way. It is like any job you as the employee do and follow the guidelines that are set by the boss and the company you work for and you might not like it but it is what needs to be done so that you can get PAID.

text is all shifted around where read it is next to impossible.

So tell us what do you suggest we use then when Government or business that we are forced to use don't support Firefox ?

It's a US problem. Here government offers on-line services to ALL citizens on all main browsers. It's actually very simple: stick to the standards and generally it will work on every browser. Before on-line tax forms they offered programs you had to download and install and they dutifully offered them for all platforms (yes, for Linux too). They now even require documents to be available in open standard formats so everyone can use them no matter what editor they prefer to use or on what system. That's how it should work but unfortunately the government in the US has a different opinion about what service to it's citizens is. It's not excessive to demand that on-line government services work properly on all main modern browsers, it's not rocket science. Compare it with the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). Many provisions and requirements that ensure accessibility for the disabled. So why not something like that for the regular services? It's not a technical problem, it's a political problem.

it's a political problem

I agree with you and maybe one day the Government might agree and change things. BUT I doubt that will work with the private businesses they pretty much get to do what and how they want.

If the government start catering for the standard browsers - for me that would be the Chrome family, the Firefox family and Safari - then private companies will have an incentive to follow suit.
With the US government mandating Chrome for interactions, private companies can assume Chrome will be there.
What I find somewhat strange is that the same government which is thinking in terms of anti-trust proceedings against Google is the one creating a monopoly centered on Google's browser.

The problem is way too many government (not just the US ones) IT depts insist on using MS products . . .

mainly because the IT techs involved are either not knowledgeable enough to turn off the MS specific options or they're so wedded to MS they want to force everyone to use MS software to use the sites they create.

Or they are 'encouraged' with incentives like free congress visits or free software.

What I find somewhat strange is that the same government which is thinking in terms of anti-trust proceedings against Google is the one creating a monopoly centered on Google's browser.

Thats just the Governments way of saying we need more bribe opppssss sorry I ment to say campaign funds.

With the state of Arizona, it's a technical problem. It's my understanding they don't test on Safari. I bet they don't have Macs.

That's no excuse. Either a development department or a hired company does the development so the government department itself doesn't need a mac.

Of course not! Firefox is not from google, or microsoft. or any other big money grabbing company. And it respects privacy! Imagine, respecting privacy. And anonymity! And it's open source! Ugh, can't have us supporting that kind of software.

I find that richly ironic given that when a certain list was leaked to the press illegally, violating the privacy rights of thousands of people, the then President of Mozilla was forced to resign because of a large scale protest by the Mozilla staff.

I was off-grid when that happened so I pretty much missed the entire thing.
Who leaked that list? Was it the President of Mozilla? There was then a large scale protest which forced him to resign - he screwed up and was forced out? Or was he on that list - whatever it was - and the staff took exception?

I was off-grid when that happened so I pretty much missed the entire thing.

Who leaked that list? Was it the President of Mozilla? There was then a large scale protest which forced him to resign - he screwed up and was forced out? Or was he on that list - whatever it was - and the staff took exception?

He was on the list, and the staff took exception to the fact that he donated money to that particular political cause.

Searching on "us political donations" throws up https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors?cycle=2020&view=fc as the second result (the first one was on some major corporations halting their donations). I'm not familiar with US laws but isn't this stuff public anyway? Or public if you exceed a certain threshold?

https://reason.com/2014/04/06/does-mozilla-dumping-its-ceo-over-prop-8/ is presumably what you are talking about.

They "respect privacy" only when it is expedient for them to do so.

Still a lot better than any of the other browsers. And by-the-way, that had nothing to do with the browser having privacy issues.