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gomiam ๐Ÿšซ

I connect almost exclusively through Firefox on Android. Lately, though, I'm getting asked for my username and password repeatedly (maybe two- three times a day at best).
The is no "Remember me" option either, and it a bit annoying.
Is it just me? Has something changed at SOL? Did my logging in to Bookapy have anything to do with it?

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)
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@gomiam

What do you mean there is no 'Remember me' check box. It's right there. I just checked using firefox on my iPhone.

Send a screen shot to my email, lazeez at storiesonline.net

Replies:   Dominions Son  gomiam
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

What do you mean there is no 'Remember me' check box. It's right there. I just checked using firefox on my iPhone.

Firefox on Win7

I've had it set on remember me forever. Recently had it log me out in the background. Went to refresh and it wanted a log in. Remember me was unchecked.

Note: I don't think this is an SOL issue. I've had this happen on other websites too.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Dominions Son

For the last two days I've been inundated with questions about this. It seems that firefox had an update and it erased all the cookies and started from scratch.

The remember me box is always unchecked by default. But it's there.

OP is saying that it's not there, which isn't possible unless some user side software is hiding it.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

For the last two days I've been inundated with questions about this. It seems that firefox had an update and it erased all the cookies and started from scratch.

Can't be it, because I didn't loose all my active logins all at once. There's another site I use where it happens every couple of weeks.

gomiam ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

So very sorry. It seems I missed the checkbox (it was almost invisible to me). I have seen it now.
Please excuse my optical dumbness.

johnnmarg ๐Ÿšซ

I have had the same problem (? feature) happening in an Amazon Fire using the silk browser when I power down the device. Silk now loses the login. However Chrome on the same device retains its login to storiesonline after a power down. Are silk and Firefox related?

hiltonls16 ๐Ÿšซ

I too was logged out of SoL while reading a chapter in Chrome on Android tablet. Went to the pc (Win 10 with Firefox) and found I was logged out there as well. Back to the tablet and found I'd been logged out of Finestories too.

Persistent login working again on both devices for the few days since.

Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

I have been logged out once (maybe a week ago) on my PC where I'm using a browser which has not been updated for maybe a year, that was during a session. That has to be something with SOL.
My phone uses Firefox / Android and I have to logon there more frequently than I'm used to, Firefox is kept up to date.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

For everybody's info:

No code that has anything to do with log in and cookie handling has changed in our systems for the last year at least.

So, the servers set up for log in is still exactly the same for the last year at least.

Logging in and staying logged in relies on the browser itself keeping the site's cookies. There is nothing that I can do on the server side to force browsers to keep cookies. It's totally on the user side.

Something has changed in browsers recently. Especially Firefox (unannounced). Chrome's latest has changed cookie handling, and the coming update of chrome (July 14) will also implement new policies for cookies.

Trust me, I didn't change anything on SOL/FS/SFS's end of things. I'm as annoyed as anybody as I get to hear the complaints and have to keep answering requests of why people are getting logged out and it's out of my hand. On top of that, a lot of people seem to forget their log ins and their emails go out of commission and they get new emails and new SOL accounts. I'm getting a lot of new sign-up by the same people that have been accessing SOL for years.

Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

I've noticed some of the recent browser upgrades reset some of the personalized settings to the default, and some of the default settings appear to have changed as well. One of these changes may be what's causing the issues being reported.

After one recent Firefox update I had to renter many of my personalized settings in the way the cookies were handled. At the time I also noticed all of my history and cookies had been cleared following the update. I simply set things up the way I wanted and logged in again, and all was well there after.

Replies:   madnige
madnige ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

One of these changes may be what's causing the issues being reported.

It may account for some of them, but certainly not all, and in particular not what I observed. I think I remember I was hit by the logout of browser widely reported, but also, I have a script which saves an entire story using wget, so I have control of the cookies and any upgrades. On the morning of the 29th this script was being called in a loop (downloading some stories from a queue of stories I want downloading) and had worked through a few already (this being about 2 hours after the previous days login had expired, so well away from any site login time thresholds). At 2020-05-29t08:30:17BST (by my computer) it started on the next story and successfully saved the first page (this was a three page, single chapter story; #11280). The next page saved should have been from the story, but was actually the SOL login page (which showed a timestamp of 08:30:16, so my computer time is slightly out relative to SOLs); the subsequent pages saved were the logged-out sample of that story, and the story info file which showed I was not logged in (it had a Log In link rather than a Sign Out one). Subsequent stories downloaded in that batch also only saved the logged-out samples, and when I looked at it, the cookie file had only a single (logged out) cookie. Since wget only updates cookies on instruction from the site (when allowed, as I had, it will update the cookies after saving the file), this shows that it was definitely the site that cleared the cookies and logged me out (the only other way to change wget's cookies is to manually edit them). What I guess happened is that the hosting VM had a glitch in its clock so that all cookies were expired for anybody who accessed the site during that time; if the glitched time was beyond 2030, the 'sticky' login would expire, and beyond 2031 all cookies would be lost due to standard cookie expiry rules as implemented in all browsers. That's the most likely explanation I can conceive that fits both the 'no site changes to login code' and the widespread 'logged out and cookies cleared' experience, and not something Lazeez can influence or easily detect.

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

I log in manually every time, so I didn't notice anything even though Firefox updated. As a matter of curiosity, is having a browser of any kind remember login information even secure?

Replies:   Dominions Son  Grant
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

is having a browser of any kind remember login information even secure?

The local saved logins are secure against anyone who doesn't already have access to your computer.

They are stored encrypted and used to auto-populate log in fields.

Newer versions of several browsers including Firefox offer the option of storing login information on the cloud so you can access it from any computer. That I wouldn't trust.

Replies:   Remus2
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Thanks for the reply and information.

Grant ๐Ÿšซ
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@Remus2

I log in manually every time, so I didn't notice anything even though Firefox updated. As a matter of curiosity, is having a browser of any kind remember login information even secure?

I don't bother with any browser/OS/Password wallet system for logging in to sites.
For banking, internet shopping etc i log in as needed.
For sites such as Stories Online i just use their supplied "Remember me" option, and they just rely in cookies.

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