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Freyrs_stories ๐Ÿšซ

I'm not asking to have a breakdown of every vote. rather a division for the author about a score aggregate between paid and free members. might give the odd author a bit more encouragement or the ability to ignore 'free' bombers and take seriously paid or authentic votes if you get what I mean.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)
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@Freyrs_stories

Not exactly doable.

While yes, the general info is available, it won't be accurate. Let's say a paying member cast his vote and then the next day, before the author sees it, the member's membership expires and they don't renew. It's a vote cast during a membership, but will show as for non-member when the info is pulled.

Same for votes cast during a free membership and then viewed after the voter signs up for premier service.

There is a lot of churn in memberships, so the data will be inaccurate at best.

Again, authors shouldn't care about '1 Bomb', beyond 20 votes, those 'bombs' don't have much effect on the final score. That's the whole reason for dropping top and bottom scores, it eliminates outliers.

Replies:   Keet  Switch Blayde
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Again, authors shouldn't care about '1 Bomb', beyond 20 votes, those 'bombs' don't have much effect on the final score. That's the whole reason for dropping top and bottom scores, it eliminates outliers.

A 'smart' troll would vote 2 instead of 1 to hope for a bigger impact. I'm not sure if this would work, any info on that>

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Keet

A 'smart' troll would vote 2 instead of 1 to hope for a bigger impact. I'm not sure if this would work, any info on that

Since the algorithm drops to 5% and bottom 5%, then it has no real impact. If the lowest votes are 2 or 3 or 4 or even 5, if they're outliers, they're dropped.

If everybody is voting 9 and 10 on a story and out of 100 votes 5 of them are 5 and below, then even the 5 will get dropped too.

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

the general info is available

Actually, you don't have the data.

You seem to have the data for what user gave a vote. The data you would need is the status of the user when he gave the vote (Premier or Free). And even then it wouldn't be accurate because the status could have changed when that user changes his vote.

It's not doable.

Freyrs_stories ๐Ÿšซ

@Freyrs_stories

thanks for the reply and explanation.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Freyrs_stories

between paid and free members

On the evidence of the Halloween Contest, paid members tend to vote more conservatively than free members.

Is that predictable? Do paid members have more exacting standards than free members because of their outlay?

AJ

Replies:   Switch Blayde
Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

On the evidence of the Halloween Contest, paid members tend to vote more conservatively than free members.

Paid members or contest voting members?

I have no idea, but maybe people voting in a contest aren't only looking at the story when scoring it. They may be looking at the competition (Story A against Story B). So they may vote lower for those that aren't their top choice.

Or maybe they expect more from contest entries.

Or maybe they forgot they can change their vote so they hold off the higher scores because the next entry they read may be better and they want that entry to have the higher score.

I gave up a long time ago trying to figure out how people score.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

Paid members or contest voting members?

The subset of paid members who voted in the contest.

Presumably very few of the paid members who didn't vote in the contest would vote after the contest ended and voting became open to all unless, once anonymity was lifted, they noticed a favourite author amongst the entrants.

AJ

Replies:   Switch Blayde
Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

The subset of paid members who voted in the contest.

I meant: Do they vote differently if it's a contest?

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Freyrs_stories

A 'smart' troll

Surely an oxymoron - can someone too dumb to read and understand story tags ever be described as 'smart'?

AJ

Replies:   joyR  Keet
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Surely an oxymoron - can someone too dumb to read and understand story tags ever be described as 'smart'?

A smart bomb is a 'dumb' bomb with a guidance package attached.
Some ordinance is 'fire and forget'.

A troll is a moron with a computer, an agenda, but zero intellect.
Some trolls are 'forget then fire'.

I doubt that the ability to read, let alone understand story tags is any indication of trollism. After all, how many guys read the manual before attempting 'step 1'?

:)

Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Surely an oxymoron - can someone too dumb to read and understand story tags ever be described as 'smart'?

Exactly, that's why I put 'smart' between quotes.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

that's why I put 'smart' between quotes.

'smart'ypants.

AJ

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