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StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

On SciFiStories, you only have two choices for the main genre, which are science fiction and time travel. When you get deeper, you can include the tag of Fantasy. A reader left the comment on Legacy of a Legend:

Incorrect Classification. Should be 'Fantasy'.

I replied that I only had two choices, and tagged it properly as best I could.

So - I'm not sure if there's any reason to change anything, but I suspect the hardcore Science Fiction fans that view Lord of the Rings as something that shouldn't be under the Science Fiction genre - even though most stores put out the classification of Science Fiction/Fantasy under the same heading. More or less a comment, maybe you could just change the Genre tag or add one for Fantasy.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@StarFleet Carl

or add one for Fantasy

Agreed.

Presumably, for consistency, that would match SOL's definition of High Fantasy.

I'd like to see more of Science Fiction's close relatives too, such as Horror and something covering magic/paranormal. The little branch library I haven't visited since the start of the pandemic puts them all on the same shelves and it's often difficult to tell which is which, eg is Dean Koontz Horror or Science Fiction?

AJ

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Dean Koontz Horror or Science Fiction?

Horror can be Fantasy, Science Fiction or neither.

Slasher/Serial Killer books are Horror, but generally neither Fantasy nor science fiction.

Most of the Dean Koontz books I am familiar with would be Horror/Paranormal

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Slasher/Serial Killer books are Horror, but generally neither Fantasy nor science fiction.

True. Looking at a list of top 200 horror movies, quite a few would be inappropriate on a Science Fiction site eg Psycho. But rather more would eg Hellraiser, Nightmare on Elm Street.

The moderators would need to be alert.

AJ

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

But rather more would eg Hellraiser, Nightmare on Elm Street.

Depends on how strict you want to be about science fiction.

Neither Hellraiser (well most of the series anyway*) nor Neightmare on Elm Street are science fiction. They would fall under the Paranormal genre.

*One of the movies, Hellraiser: Bloodline, takes place in part on a space station in the future.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Depends on how strict you want to be about science fiction.

Relatively loose would be better in my opinion. The more stories on the site the better. But that's without the benefit of knowing where management intend to take the three (or more?) sites.

AJ

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Relatively loose would be better in my opinion.

I don't have a strong opinion either way, In my opinion, it's up to Lazeez and what he wants to allow.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

They would fall under the Paranormal genre.

That might be a good genre to have. Restricting 'Fantasy' to 'High Fantasy' might be informative and please purists but it leaves a lot of stories with no comfortable home genre.

Thinking about my idealised version of the contents, perhaps 'Horror' should be allowed as a genre but only if the stories also bear the tag of 'SciFi', 'Time Travel', 'Fantasy' or 'Paranormal'.

AJ

Replies:   Keet  Dominions Son
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Thinking about my idealised version of the contents, perhaps 'Horror' should be allowed as a genre but only if the stories also bear the tag of 'SciFi', 'Time Travel', 'Fantasy' or 'Paranormal'.

In the context of the scifistories site I would agree but in general the Horror genre is not necessarily part of the SciFi, Fantasy, TimeTravel, or Paranormal genres. There's plenty of Horror in both fiction and non-fiction.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

I think we're all agreed on that. As Dominions Son pointed out, stories about slashers/serial killers could qualify as horror but wouldn't be appropriate for a SciFi/Fantasy site.

I was trying to think of a way for management to vet horror stories programmatically rather than having to read each one.

AJ

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Thinking about my idealised version of the contents, perhaps 'Horror' should be allowed as a genre but only if the stories also bear the tag of 'SciFi', 'Time Travel', 'Fantasy' or 'Paranormal'.

Personally I think genre generally should be changed to tags. You see a lot of cross genre books in dead tree publishing. Or books that could fit multiple genre even if only listed under one.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@StarFleet Carl

maybe you could just change the Genre tag or add one for Fantasy.

Added the 'Fantasy' genre.

Replies:   StarFleet Carl
StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

I just went there and it still only showed Science Fiction and Time Travel. The TAG is there, and was before, but not the genre on the drop down menu.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@StarFleet Carl

I just went there and it still only showed Science Fiction and Time Travel.

Sigh....

It's a caching bug. It will show up tomorrow.

richardshagrin ๐Ÿšซ
Updated:

@StarFleet Carl

When high someone is intoxicated usually by drugs. So if a character in a fantasy is high it is a high fantasy. Or the character is at a location many meters higher than sea level. A fantasy set on Mount Everest is a high fantasy.

Or it might be set in a High School.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@richardshagrin

Thou art not amusing.

richardshagrin ๐Ÿšซ

@StarFleet Carl

"amu
in American English
or AMU
atomic mass unit
Webster's New World College Dictionary, 4th Edition. Copyright ยฉ 2010 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. All rights reserved."

Of course I don't sing about atomic mass units.

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