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An intellectual exercise 11/15/19

blackjack2145309 ๐Ÿšซ

Ok, something i've always been wondering since i'm trying to be an erotic writer and i don't have any experience with this. How would a woman who is sexually experienced explain flirting/teasing a man to a woman who is sexually naive?

Replies:   joyR  Remus2
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

23?

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

A minor nit - I don't believe inexperience at flirting equates to being sexually naive. I've encountered women who have never had an interest in the ritual gameplay and just want to get down to the nitty-gritty. Admittedly, the phenomenon is far less common than with men.

AJ

blackjack2145309 ๐Ÿšซ

Me i am a straight forward logical guy looking for a woman's opinion. My initial post is the best way for me to describe the question at least i thought.

Because i have seen this sort of thing done in tv shows and movies but id like to hear how it's done in real life.

joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@blackjack2145309

Ok, something i've always been wondering since i'm trying to be an erotic writer and i don't have any experience with this.

You might not like this, but the best way to begin is to write about things you know or have experience of. Why? Partly because you'll feel more confident and need to do little research, partly because if you venture into areas you have no knowledge of, those who do are going to spot your ignorance immediately.

How would a woman who is sexually experienced explain flirting/teasing a man to a woman who is sexually naive?

To properly answer this you need to provide context. Are you talking about the infamous mother/daughter "talk"? Another version of the older experienced advising a younger innocent? Or something else where there is already intimacy?

Next is the level of advice. General or intimate details?

Perhaps most importantly, flirting/teasing is intuitive, part of a genetic imperative, of course as with most things, there are degrees of skill, good advice can advance any skill, but practise makes perfect. Added to which, confidence breeds competence, not to mention being sexy in and of itself.

If you want better answers, ask better (more detailed) questions.

blackjack2145309 ๐Ÿšซ

First let me say thank you for responding..
I can't disagree at all with what you say. The reason i'm making this post is i realize i'm a man and this is something i think to be authentic i need a woman's point of view on.

Well to answer t he questions it is quite simply the older experienced woman advising the younger innocent.
The ones involved are a 300 year old kitsune girl who has had all the sexual experience you can think of advising a valkyrie/angel who has only a vague concept of sex (the valkyrie/angel is the innocent one in this) Because she recently did the fallen angel thing and she's now mortal.

As for the type of advice id say it's more general than anything.

Replies:   joyR  Remus2
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@blackjack2145309

The ones involved are a 300 year old kitsune girl who has had all the sexual experience you can think of advising a valkyrie/angel who has only a vague concept of sex (the valkyrie/angel is the innocent one in this) Because she recently did the fallen angel thing and she's now mortal.

Mixing Japanese and Norse myth, could be interesting, could be a wreck. A three tailed kitsune wouldn't be a good choice as an advisor, even though their malevolence is usually targeted at men, that is not always the case. Whilst valkyries are virgins, they are not exactly innocent or naive.

That aside the mythology thing isn't really my forte so maybe you'd be better off with advice from someone who is more 'into' that particular genre?

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@blackjack2145309

Im going to assume Yokai folklore for the Kitsune girl, and for it, the Edo period and a shape shifting witch foxgirl.

For the Valkyrie, it would have to go back to 13th/14th century. Somewhere in the story, you'd have to recognize the mentality of the "chooser of the slain." Freyja and the Folkvangr would likely have to be recognized as well.

Effectively you're setting up two diametrically opposed cultures and characters.

The next consideration is the temporal setting. Is it modern times, or other? Cultures are partially fluid, changing over time. You've got a very broad span of time at play there. The characters will reflect their youth as tempered by time. That tempering would also reflect minor changes brought about by living in another culture.

If you want in-depth character development, those are just a few things you'll have to consider. If you're just writing a hentai fap story, you really didn't need any advice.

blackjack2145309 ๐Ÿšซ

Really? you're nitpicking to?
I mentioned details about the women involved because i was trying to give context. The way i'm writing this story isn't strictly following historical personalities.

I just could use some advice on the question i have it is quite simply the older experienced woman advising the younger innocent. And the kind of advice the experienced woman gives is on general flirting/teastin

Replies:   joyR
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@blackjack2145309

Really? you're nitpicking to?
I mentioned details about the women involved because i was trying to give context. The way i'm writing this story isn't strictly following historical personalities.

Nitpicking wasn't the intent.

Context is important, thus advice given woman to woman isn't going to exactly translate to the context of kitsune/valkyrie and as that genre isn't my forte, I don't wish to mislead you.

However, flirting isn't a formula thing, it is a mix of personality and attitude, which can be 'aimed' at a group, but is best when directed at a single person as it becomes more 'intimate' in nature. Teasing is similar but generally lacks intent, thus the quintessential 'prick tease'. Flirting may or may not lead to intimacy but it lacks the cruelty of teasing.

Body language is important, eye contact even more so, blatant use of either destroys the effect, subtle is much better as it enforces the feeling of intimacy, your target's ego is stroked when you appear to direct yourself at them alone, a shared secret kind of thing. Making someone feel special is effective, it makes you special in their eyes. Flirting is a precursor to seduction and the secret to seduction isn't showing the goods but inciting their desire to see the goods.

Maintaining eye contact whilst pealing a banana is flirting, licking then sucking it whilst still maintaining eye contact sends a message.

Deepthroating the banana then biting it off at the base... Whilst watching him wince is funny, it's also teasing and cruel. Funny thing is it'll get you *lots* of offers...

Especially if you can swallow it without obviously chewing it first... (Insert evil grin)

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@blackjack2145309

You probably need to specify the culture in question. Flirting is many different things contingent upon the society in which it occurs.
Body language alone assures this. That's before multiple other factors are involved.

Replies:   Keet
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

You probably need to specify the culture in question. Flirting is many different things contingent upon the society in which it occurs.

Not probably but essential. Just think about a simple hand gesture that could be interpreted as flirting in one culture but be a grave insult in another.

Replies:   joyR
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

Not probably but essential. Just think about a simple hand gesture that could be interpreted as flirting in one culture but be a grave insult in another.

Absolutely.

But since the OP has stated he isn't following the accepted character traits he can probably ignore the associated customs and cultures. Unless of course things diverge to the extent that they become jarringly ridiculous.

An effort to be authentic always feels more natural, but that could be personal taste. Cultural believability isn't always high on an author's priorities.

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