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ralord82276 ๐Ÿšซ
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A young guy (who is mostly a loner growing up) has always been something of a people watcher. And something is weird.. the older he gets the less energy he seems to have.

As he matures he starts to develop a sense of what others are thinking and feeling when he is watching them. And he seems to get a boost of energy from the experience. The ability continues to develop to the point where he becomes a "rider behind the eyes" of the person he is watching...he can see, hear, and feel things from their perspective as well as feel their emotions and hear their thoughts...he eventually learns how to influence their actions while he is "riding" them. The greater the physical and emotional sensations the person experiences while he is "riding" them, the greater his corresponding energy boost is.

The person he is "riding" is never aware of his "hitchhiking" but since he can only "ride" someone he can physically see (and/or maybe within a certain distance), his physical presence is occasionally noticed. Soon he is using his "riding" ability to influence the people he watches into sexual situations (which seemingly results in the biggest energy boosts due to the high level of physical and emotional sensations). His ability could be termed "vampyric voyeurism".

I envision this as a slow progression over the course of years from him first realizing his growing ability to him recognizing the increased energy he gets from using it to him discovering the influencing aspect of his ability, etc.

An episode I can see happening is him in class one day (high school) and very low on energy so he tries to use his ability to "ride" a classmate to get a boost. However, he discovers that he can't really get a boost due to everyone being bored or concentrating in class (ie very little physical or emotional sensations resulting in no energy boost). He is jumping his "riding" from one student to the next to the next, etc to try to get his boost when he happens to "ride" a girl he is attracted to and is distracted into thinking about her in a sexual manner. This is what causes him to discover his ability to influence others because he "sees" her thoughts change from boredom to sexual and he sees her discretely start to masturbate to her new thoughts. He "rides" her all the way through her orgasm and the resultant energy boost is waaay higher than what he normally gets (up til that point he had never watched anyone is a sexual situation). This leads him to explore/experiment with influencing others into sexual situations to get those bigger boosts.

roleplay40 ๐Ÿšซ

@ralord82276

An interesting idea, Even though person the MC is riding, is not aware they are being rode, being controlled.

I assume if you rode the same person many times they would start to think something is wrong with themselves, when they start acting out of character, friends and family would think the same.

The MC would not just be able to have lots of sexual pleasure to boost his energy, he would have the power to make himself rich also, but could also do some good with his power.

This idea puts a different spin on the non consent theme.

LupusDei ๐Ÿšซ

@ralord82276

This is excellent.

I could absolutely dig "vampiric voyeurism" and actually relate.

I think the need to physically see the object character could be one of the aspects where the growth of his power could be apparent. At first he must establish eye contact to get "in" and it's just a fleeting glimpse of the inner other. Then, he can follow for a period afterwards an eye contact. Then, just intense watching over relatively short distance and for quite a while is enough to get in, then he can just look at someone and establish contact, at a growing distance and decreasing observation time.

Then, he can follow the ride even out of sight as long he's certain of the exact location. That's boosted with, necessarily, the visual input from the ride's own eyes. Darkness, shut eyes, looking at a phone screen while walking, and similar could be very confusing and easily break the connection. Also an area of gradual improvement. And again, only within a certain, initially small range. That could grow, eventually, up to about half a mile at a maximum, but no further.

Any forms of such advanced deep riding would necessarily require a lot of concentration and come at expense of almost completely losing own sensory inputs in the meantime, appearing to be in a transe like state that's easily distracted. And a ride out of sight can not be re-aqurred if connection is lost due to a personal distraction.

The ultimate could be ability to jump from one ride to another by establishing eye contact with the new target from the current ride's eyes, perhaps eventually even if the new target isn't in direct sight themselves, but all the previous limitations apply. Plus, it perhaps could only work with "familiar" persons he had been already "visited" directly before.

This could be a theme, that it's increasingly easy to ride familiar people while new contacts require full sequence, with direct eye contact at short distance to open the gates the first time. With training, the routine after that could be fast and increasingly simple, but even just that requirement could be significantly limiting, especially in the later stages when he could otherwise control groups of people from afar.

On the voyeur side of things, and planting my own kinks, I would introduce nudity of the target as both significant boost and a factor that ease acquisition of the contract. It rhyme with the sexual theme but isn't exactly the same.

Alternatively/additionally, he could discovered that it's much easier to "wear" others and boost the experience and depth of influence, especially into the sexual, if he himself is naked while doing so. While kinky and enjoyable on its own at first, that could become an additional necessarily cost, especially for long distance multi target feats. Again, limiting the utility of those for "other" purposes. However, at same point he could be as (over) confident that to believe he could make people to ignore or accept his nudity upon discovery. It could also serve as additional incentive to try to establish clothing optional lifestyle around himself.

I think his influence could never be direct and accurate. He couldn't force one to perform certain actions puppet-like, or put exact words in their mouth. He could only nudge and assist, and perhaps plant ideas that should then germinate in the targeted person's own mind before they're acted upon. It's not a fast or straight forward process, but subtle, and sneaky, but then accepted as person's own.

At advanced stages, he could have ability to search the person's memory for moments supporting his objective and even subtly manipulate the recalled memory to better suit his goals. Like, instead of forcing a girl to take off her swimsuit -- something that's expensive in energy and may or not work at all --, he could convince her that she had wanted to go nude on the beach at a previous instance already, but only chickened out because of obstacles not present currently, so there's a chance to try it now. Or, instead of forcing her to flash a guy and the submit to his advances, he would search for instances she had thought positively and wanton towards the guy and nudge her to act on those latent desires. Necessitating presence of such a nugget in her mind, of course; if she's unconditionally revolted over the guy, we're out of luck and now only reinforced that, but it likely wouldn't have worked anyway.

And yes, there could -- shoul -- be a problem of balancing the "energy" expenditure for establishing and maintaining contact, and -- especially -- influencing the target, with the payoff from the eventual emotional experience of the target. And that should be positive for maximum value.

He could discover the hard way that hard abuse of the target or forcing them perform far out their comfort zone, making them upset with themselves, questioning own sanity in a bad way, essentially performing a distance rape, could be far more draining than anything. While bad emotions are still emotions and powerful enough responses could gain a small positive outcome even in the negative, it's nowhere near the potential of a positive, joyful experience. Even if the negative could perhaps been simpler, but not necessarily easier to trigger.

Since it's the emotional impact of the experience of the target that count, persons could be potentially "raided out" especially if mistreated. Take sexual escapades escalate too fast, train her into a complete slut, and sex is now mundane activity for her and while fun by far not that anymore. He could jump into the guy, there's likely some excitement to had, but if she's a known slut, even that could numb. Even worse with humiliation. The victim would just shut down and go to the inner refuge and there would be no return.

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ralord82276 ๐Ÿšซ

@LupusDei

Very good points and all pretty much what I was envisioning myself but failed to make clear in my suggestion. The only thing you mentioned that I had not previously thought of was the possibility of either side wearing clothes inhibiting the connection.

I am not a writer myself but I continue to post suggestions like this in the hopes that someone that is a writer would read it and be intrigued enough by the idea presented to craft a story around it. There are plenty of mind control stories out there but this puts a totally new and different twist on it (also as you pointed out, it is not direct control just influence) so I really hope an author likes the idea enough to expand it into a full fledged story/book/series.

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LupusDei ๐Ÿšซ

@ralord82276

I'm "not a writer" either. At very least in the sense I haven't published anything (yet?) or even finished to a publishable state any of dabbles into writing. English isn't my first or even second language and I don't speak it at all, although can write, more or less.

The only thing you mentioned that I had not previously thought of was the possibility of either side wearing clothes inhibiting the connection.

Well, I was at it the other way around, that it's (much) easier without, especially at advanced distances and/or other complexity. But yes, technically that's inhibiting influence. And it could be on a scale, but one depending on the target's sense of nudity as well as his own more than anything, so even the most skimpy bikini worn with confidence still has a barrier far in disproportion of its area of coverage of her skin, while even much more demure underwear perceived as indecent exposure by the wearer would rate as less.

He could notice that it's easier with more scantily clad persons of interest, that catching a nipple slip may sometimes be as good if not better than eye contact. That from behind or in profile he could get connection by taking inventory of her clothing and seemingly slipping behind it. He could follow that to logical conclusions and go to experiment on the beach.

Or, what I was getting at... I have a fetish for skinny dipping and peeping on people doing just that, supposedly secretly, undisturbed, observed unbeknownst to them. So I aimed to plant that as a scene or theme. It is in fact an intensely joyful experience, especially for first timers feeling secure enough but seemingly taking bold risks and getting away with it.

(And yes, I know, from just such observations. Yes, absolutely abhorrent behavior from my part. Good birdwatching binoculars is a must to keep everyone unhurt. No, I never take pictures. That would go against my moral principles as twisted as they may appear.)

Or mental voyeur could be driven to such in a number of ways. I doubt he would have second thoughts if presented with the opportunity, but it doesn't even need to happen randomly. He could follow on a thought surfacing in some of his classroom explorations, for an example. Yes, it's totally stalkerish to do, to follow girl(s) contemplating skinny dipping in secrecy and assumed privacy, but liar the teenage boy who would say to ditch such a chance.

Once there he could be amazed how much easier it is to get connection and how malleable the minds seem to be. He could ditch his own clothes just because, out of excitement and to get even with his targets, intuitively feeling it would make them closer, and it works in abundance.

Then... while observing a backyard pool party from the dark corner, why not try it out and, yes, turn the party into an unexpected all out orgy with unprecedented ease.

Eventually it could become a risque weapon in his toolbox while chasing greater goals, whatever those could be, with potential of placing him in embarrassing and/or legal trouble situations he would have to maneuver through by even more abuse of his special powers, furthering debauchery in unforeseen ways. Like, why not make public nudity legal in his hometown just for convenience?

LupusDei ๐Ÿšซ

@LupusDei

with the payoff from the eventual emotional experience of the target. And that should be positive for maximum value.

While bad emotions are still emotions and powerful enough responses could gain a small positive outcome even in the negative

Fun "neat trick" to get maximum output:

- make a (formerly) shy girl perform wantonly act of exhibitionism enjoying her trill of risk doing so;
- knowing she's going to be caught by a known righteous prude with power over her (read, a teacher, but not necessarily limited to);
- jump over to that person and drain their outrage;
- showing he/she overreacts because of own suppressed feelings and desires;
- make them basically apologize to the good girl having an unfortunate mishap;
- return to the girl and ride her enjoyment of getting away with the unthinkable in front of the most unlikely people to accept her public nudity and debauchery;
- cath the prude later and make them relive the encounter as a masturbation material.

Freyrs_stories ๐Ÿšซ

@ralord82276

This does sound, at least in part to go along the lines of the 'Dream Walkers' a person made weapon of war and espionage in Terry Goodkind's 'Sword of Truth' world. two of the books of which became a short lived TV series 'Legend of the Seeker'. those books and the aired episodes never covered these 'weapons'. they are a much later/earlier construct, depending on the order you read the 20 odd books in. as is the defence against them and an explanation of their 'features'.

I think this idea could possibly be taken much 'further' with the ability to acquire specialised insight or knowledge in inventive scenarios, such as aide to passing school exams or perhaps in a 'Roxanne/Cyrano de Bergerac' love triangle type of thing.

just some random thoughts.

F.

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LupusDei ๐Ÿšซ

@Freyrs_stories

I don't know the material you are talking about, but what you said reminded me a 20min amateur video short where a "technomage" was brought by a special forces team in the vicinity of an enemy "Colossus of War" in the middle of an apocalyptic battle, and drank tea in an imaginary kitchen discussing ethics with the female avatar of the machine's AI soul, while soldiers died defending his body in a trance. I don't remember the conclusion (it's not impossible I fell asleep and didn't see it), but my best guess is that the Colossus shut down, but everyone died anyway.

And yes, the guy discussed here could be easily weaponized, and be extremely powerful. And he's hardly an angel to begin with. And of course some similar ideas have been around somewhere, it's just a particular flavor of a spin on a mind controller anyhow. But I guess, we here discuss mostly his early days of learning the ropes of his powers by pranking people, mostly into sexual situations.

LupusDei ๐Ÿšซ
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@Freyrs_stories

inventive scenarios, such as aide to passing school exams

Wait, did I read this right?

Alice, who had learned about Bob's special talents (perhaps by being his favorite toy) ask Bob to help her pass the exam by offering to willingly being "rided" by Bob, who then alternates between her and Charlie, the teacher, searching the later's mind for the right answers he doesn't know either?

That's quite some fun.

I was contemplating about payoff making his escapades in other persons minds -- and the colossal expenditure of time it quickly becomes -- justifiable in practical, mundane life terms beyond the vague concept of being "low energy" without the boost. So, boost of exactly what? How the "high energy" mode after an episode of feeding on a boosting emotional experience of a puppet differ from the "low energy" baseline?

The energy could be sublimated into crudely physical, but that's just silly, and rather low utility in a practical life of a (likely nerdy) teen at school. It's far more interesting and adequate to keep mental energy mental, and let him do hard intellectual work fast and easy, catching up the time spent stalking people with a premium. Makes him even more overpowered eventually though.

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ralord82276 ๐Ÿšซ
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@LupusDei

the vague concept of being "low energy" without the boost. So, boost of exactly what? How the "high energy" mode after an episode of feeding on a boosting emotional experience of a puppet differ from the "low energy" baseline?

when I thought of this concept, I was envisioning how legends say vampires work: if they do not get blood to feed on, they don't die they just get weak... how weak depends on how long it has been since they last fed.

You do bring up a good point though. Since this is a mental ability, having it have a physical detraction if not used isn't the best plot tool. Making a mental ability be directly linked to a mental benefit is better.

So maybe instead of a physical loss of energy, the result of not "riding" is a reduction of his mental capability. Making him slow of thought, unable to concentrate on problems. By "riding" people though, he receives a boost to his mental capacities: his thinking becomes quicker, his mental focus sharpens, his cognitive abilities increase. Thinking of it in computer terms: if not having recently ridden someone, then his mental capability is like a computer with a full hard drive and low RAM- slow, takes a while to process commands and won't run large programs. Whereas if he has recently ridden someone, then he is more like a fresh computer, with lots of RAM and lots of available hard drive space. And the more frequently he "rides" people, the faster his mental capabilities become. It would be like each recently ridden person becomes an additional processor connected to his brain's CPU.

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LupusDei ๐Ÿšซ

@ralord82276

I was reading it originally as something akin chronic fatigue syndrome. He just feels tired, with could be mental, but with physical consequences and possibly even underlying causes. The energy boost he receives from "riding" people override that, make the fog go away and his working capacity skyrocket, perhaps even not requiring sleep for a while. Only for him to crash when it fades. So he's essentially a junkie, only his drug is this mental vampirism of (sexual) emotional energy.

Freyrs_stories ๐Ÿšซ

@ralord82276

when I thought of this concept, I was envisioning how legends say vampires work: if they do not get blood to feed on, they don't die they just get weak... how weak depends on how long it has been since they last fed.

the term you're looking for here is 'Tor-pa' (spelling?). it can be a way of holding death at bay but increasing vulnerability. it is not unique to vampire lore, but could be used in situ anywhere there is a metaphysical 'need to feed'.

I think an important question(s) is/are:
what can our anti/hero access?
how aware is the other person?
what is required for first vs subsequent joinnings?
what if any symptoms does the joinee exhibit during/after/after many rides?

I have thought of things along this line before but not had the time to write much down. pick my brain, I'm happy to 'share' telepathy not required ;P

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ralord82276 ๐Ÿšซ

@Freyrs_stories

pick my brain, I'm happy to 'share' telepathy not required ;P

LOL...don't make that offer around any zombies :)

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Freyrs_stories ๐Ÿšซ

@ralord82276

why, is your name Bob?

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ralord82276 ๐Ÿšซ

@Freyrs_stories

How'd you know??? @@

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Freyrs_stories ๐Ÿšซ

@ralord82276

just a reference to a somewhat obscure song about zombies.

check it out here it makes me chuckle every time I listen to it.

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