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roleplay40 ๐Ÿšซ
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Hi there I am new to this site joined last month, I do not consider myself a writer far from it but I have been giving it a go. So far I have posted five stroke stories, staring a lady called Suzy who is 59 years old and his based on a real person, and a theme running through my stories is the woman stays dressed in the stories, well never ends up fully nude, so her boobs and cunt etc do get exposed.

My stories so far have been quite tame I would say, probably very tame for some on this site.

My reason for this post is I have had a good few say I should write some non consent stories, some hard rape ones.

If I did give it ago writing Rape stroke stories, I would keep the theme of the lady being mature, but a different lady to my Suzy character, and the lady would basically be staying dressed but of course her clothes would end up ripped, messy etc.

So do you think I should write these kind of stories. If yes, how hard would you suggest I try and be, should I include any of these in my stories.

Slapping her around.

Giving her an hard belting/caning etc

Punching.

Scat

piss

Using nettles

(Feel free to suggest things I could do in this kind of story)

If there is a husband in the story should he just be made to watch or be used hard also,

Thank you in advance for any replies,

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@roleplay40

No one can answer that question other than you, but I believe a lot of readers do not like violent rape.

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roleplay40 ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

Thank you for your reply. Those that suggested i write some Rape stories do seem to prefer the violent rape kind.

ralord82276 ๐Ÿšซ
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@roleplay40

Levels of consent in the stories are very much up to the author. I may be wrong in this but I believe that the extreme non-consent stories have a much smaller fan base than other consent levels. I myself do not like hardcore rape or BDSM activities but I do find that I like a lot of reluctance type stories (where the female initially does not want to participate but eventually the sensations she experiences make her an eager participant).

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roleplay40 ๐Ÿšซ

@ralord82276

Thank you for giving me your thoughts, You could be right about the extreme rape stories having a smaller fan base than the much softer kind, but i guess that depends where you post the story.

You have said you do not like the Hard rape stories and BDSM activities what about pissing or scat in a stories is that something you like.

The stories i write are short stroke stories, which so far the five stories i have posted have been from 738 words which is maybe is to short of a story since it is only about a 4 minute read time, up to 3709 words which is about a 20 minute read time.

Downloads so far have been between just short of 600 up to 1400 which some, probably lots would see that as poor, but to me I am pleased that so many have downloaded my stories, yes would be great to have lots more downloads, but the amount of downloads and good feed back i have got so far, is enough for me to carry on trying to write stroke stories.

blackjack2145309 ๐Ÿšซ

@roleplay40

I don't know if it's too late to offer a view on this topic to the author of this post but i'm going to do it anyway.

While i've never written any stroke stories i've always felt that a non consensual scene of any type needs to feel natural to the story for it to work.

For example three soldiers working through the process of raping a woman so the hero can save her like a hero from assassin's creed...

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roleplay40 ๐Ÿšซ
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@blackjack2145309

Thank you for your input, it is not to late to offer your advice i only posted this yesterday.

In your example are the three soldiers all raping the same woman each time, working there way through that way, rather than one guy raping one woman.

With a stroke story i see them as maybe only part of a story, an highlight, so maybe not much build up to the main action of the story and not a lot after the main action.

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blackjack2145309 ๐Ÿšซ

@roleplay40

Yea three guys on one woman...

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roleplay40 ๐Ÿšซ

@blackjack2145309

I assume you prefer it to be more than one guy raping a woman hard then rather than just one guy, In the list of things i suggested could maybe happen in a story, are there any you do not like to see.

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@roleplay40

I assume you prefer it to be more than one guy raping a woman hard then rather than just one guy,

You misunderstood Blackjack. He wasn't interested in the rape. He was interested in the hero saving the woman who was raped.

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roleplay40 ๐Ÿšซ
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@Switch Blayde

Ok, thank you for letting me know, do you feel the same way as blackjack.

blackjack2145309 ๐Ÿšซ

@roleplay40

Well to be honest the most extreme i would consider going with a woman is into the area of bdsm. But i like to think of myself as at least a half decent writer though i have yet to publish anything.

To me a rape scene is more of a plot device than anything. I imagine when i set down to work and write a proper one of my own i'll have a whole list of questions to ask myself.

To answer your question, id say i'm more terror over violence type. I think Judi Dench said it best with "any thug can kill i need you to take your ego out of the equation."

In this case i believe any thug can be violent, but if you want to up the scene you need to humiliate and/or terrorize your female character.

Also in all honesty, i think i speak for most people when i say you should generally avoid any bodily fluids in a stroke scene because those things have a very narrow audience.

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roleplay40 ๐Ÿšซ

@blackjack2145309

Thank you very much for your advice, I have posted five stories on this site but i do not actually see myself as a writer. Which is probably a contradiction lol.

A good quote from M, which true.

So if you also terrorize and humiliate the victim then The hard rape fantasy is maybe like a lot of horror films in that there is lots of terrorizing the victim or victims, not just the violence, which i can see how that would add more to the story.

I think in the end it would come down to how much you can sort of fit into a stroke story of say between 10 and 30 minute read time. which is what mine have been about in length so far.

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Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@roleplay40

I think in the end it would come down to how much you can sort of fit into a stroke story of say between 10 and 30 minute read time. which is what mine have been about in length so far.

Short length doesn't make stroke. There are some great classic very short stories published over the years. A lot of them were written for magazines. One of my favorite is "To Serve Man" by Damon Knight. Only 1,346 words. It first appeared in the November 1950 issue of the "Galaxy Science Fiction" magazine. Most people know it from the Twilight Zone episode. I even wrote my own version of it for SOL called "How to Serve Man" which didn't go over well because it seems everyone had seen the Twilight Zone episode and didn't like that I "stole" it. Boy, did I get an earful.

Stroke means a sex scene with no plot. A longer stroke story simply has more sex scenes (still no plot).

I'm not averse to violence and pain. I write thrillers that are often violent. And my main character in one series seeks justice vigilante style and inflicts pain. In one novel he cuts a man's dick off and stuffs it in his mouth and then opens his veins so that he bleeds out. It was done because the man was really bad. He abused one of the lead women in the novel and got what he deserved. So thought my MC. But I don't use pain for erotica. Something like BDSM turns me off, not on.

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roleplay40 ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

I get what you are saying about short length of story doesn't make a stroke story, but because my stories will be sex stories and most of the story will have adult content in it, that is why i see them as stroke stories.

I know i have not read the "To Serve Man" by Damon Knight, and not sure if i saw the Twilight Zone episode based on that story.

I have just read your version of of "To Serve Man" i thought it was well written, and i have no problems at all that you did a version of that story yourself, if you was doing it to say sell on Amazon KDP for instance then i can see why most would not be happy with you, but to write your version to post on here then not an issue for me. plus you did give an Acknowledgment

Because of the theme of my thread. While reading your Story other than the surprise ending, two other things stood out for me. When you said and i quote.

"He heard a grunt and wondered if he was hurting her, but he didn't care. She was there to serve him so only his needs mattered."

"His hips humped, causing her to gag. But he didn't care. All that mattered was his pleasure. She was there to serve him; that's what she had said. And he was going to make the most of it."

If i do write some Hard Rape stories, violent ones for posting on here, they will certainly not be as hard as cutting a mans dick off lol, no one will die in my stories, that would be a limit for me. My two main limits when it comes to porn stories is No underage and no Snuff.

But i do like horror so good change i will like some of your thriller stories.

Thank you for taking part in my thread.

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Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@roleplay40

"He heard a grunt and wondered if he was hurting her, but he didn't care. She was there to serve him so only his needs mattered."

"His hips humped, causing her to gag. But he didn't care. All that mattered was his pleasure. She was there to serve him; that's what she had said. And he was going to make the most of it."

I don't remember the specifics of that story I wrote (I wrote it a long time ago and I can barely remember what I had for dinner last night), but I'm sure I made the guy doing that a loser. And the woman he was doing it to was giving herself to him voluntarily so it wasn't rape.

I don't write horror. That's Stephen King's forte. The violence in my thrillers isn't intended to scare the reader. It's to pit good against bad. The slicing off of the dick isn't snuff. There's nothing sexual about the scene. Sometimes my heroes see themselves as judge, jury, and executioner. The man was being punished for sexually abusing the heroine. Like in a Jack Reacher novel. At the end of the first Jack Reacher movie, the bad guy told Reacher that going to an American prison was like going to a hotel. He thought he got the last laugh until Reacher shot him in the head โ€” judge, jury, executioner.

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roleplay40 ๐Ÿšซ
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@Switch Blayde

Yes you wrote the guy to be a loser, and the Alien lady was allowing Walter the fat loser to do what he wanted with her, she was there to serve him. So it was not rape, he just did not care about her feeling you could say.

When you put it like that then yes your stories are certainly not horror ones, not some guy in a mask going around killing people, but thrillers as you said before.

Have you seen the Jack Reacher tv series, if not it is worth watching, as far as i know it is closer to the book than the Tom Cruise versions were.

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Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@roleplay40

Have you seen the Jack Reacher tv series, if not it is worth watching, as far as i know it is closer to the book than the Tom Cruise versions were.

Yes, and a new one is coming in December. There's a separate thread on Jack Reacher in the Forum.

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roleplay40 ๐Ÿšซ
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@Switch Blayde

Yes mate, from the little bit i watched of the trailer looks like it will be a good second series, some times trailers show too much so i do not always watch all of the trailer. Thanks for the info about the thread.

LupusDei ๐Ÿšซ
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@roleplay40

I think the first thing to decide is if you're up to writing a rapee fantasy or a rapist fantasy. What point of view you take. On who's side your sympathy lies. Whom you offer the reader to identify themselves with (while realizing some will always do the exact opposite no matter what). The actual events may be, in theory, exactly the same to an extent (at least as long the victim survive, but I believe it can be done either way even if not), it will be "immaterial" things that would differ.

Rapist fantasy would be about unrestricted action. Power drunk. Successful hunt. Fulfillment or disappointment, possibly remorse.

Rapee fantasy would be about someone taking control away. Forced unrecognized desires, unresolved feelings. Or resilience, inner power over physical violence. Possibly sacrifice.

Is it possible to combine the two? I won't claim no, but it sounds a hard thing to do properly, requiring advanced skill or sheer luck. It's much more likely to fall in the middle pissing off both, although there's likely at least one freak somewhere out there to whom it will be the exact hit regardless. Guess what, that one freak better be you, taking pleasure in writing the nonsense.

Other than that, I would second the opinion about better staying away from bodily fluids. Piss has its fanbase, and surely scat has too, but doubt its very numerous. A lot depends on presentation of course, but the more risky subjects you combine the smaller the crossection of the diagram will become. Now remember what I said about the one freak.

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roleplay40 ๐Ÿšซ

@LupusDei

Thank you for you input, When it comes to who's side the readers sympathy lies, not something i have thought about, but i guess depends on why the guy or guys are raping the mature woman, if they are just doing it because it is fun for them. then the sympathy might lie with the lady for a lot of readers, but if they are raping the mature lady for revenge for something she as done, then maybe most readers sympathy will not lie with the lady.

With my stories being short porn stories then if i write some Rape stories for posting on here, there probably would be no remorse shown afterwards, as the story will probably end when the guy or guys leave or very soon after they do, but also my stories might turn out to have been role play, no limit role play i guess. or turn out to have been all a dream.

I understand what you are saying about staying away from the piss and the scat as it will limit the fanbase even more for this kind of story.

Do not think i have ever been called a Freak before lol.

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