I remember this guy and his very short wife were waiting to go into a concert. Guy picks up his wife and these two rogue cops see him and automatically assume he's trying to assualt her. They falsely arrest him and then assault him seriously at the station. Basically this demented cop slammed his fist into the guy's face as he sits there cuffed to a table. Can't remember much more. Thanks in advance for any help.
Lol, not this time, but I bet it happens appt more in the real world than we ever hear about. Is it any wonder more cops are being killed almost daily.
Is it any wonder more cops are being killed almost daily.
Why did you make that up? Or are you talking about some "other" specific country?
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Why did you make that up?
Have you not been paying attention to the news? There have been dozens of ambush attacks on cops in the US this year (I'm not sure off the top of my head about fatalities). This is a highly unusual situation, though daily is probably an exaggeration.
ETA: The long term national average for the US for officer line of duty deaths is < 100 of which around 80% are traffic accidents.
When the final numbers are in for this year, 2020 is going to be a major spike in officer deaths, particularly in deaths due to felonious acts.
According to the FBI:
- 48 officers were killed by felonious acts and 41 in accidents in 2019.
- 56 officers were killed by felonious acts in 2018.
Taking the 2019 felonious deaths in the US,
- 27 were in the South
- 2 in Puerto Rico
- 9 each, West and Midwest
- 1 in the Northeast.
https://www.odmp.org/search/year has the current figures for 2020 - 237 so far with 132 of them being from Covid19, 21 from auto/motorcycle crashes, 4 from 9/11 related cancer, 6 from heart attacks, and so on.
Felonious attacks are not listed separately, but 51 would seem to be the figure and that is approaching 2018's tally.
Any stats on how many 'accidentally' shot themselves 'while cleaning their gun'?
The way they conduct raids, I would be more interested in numbers on "friendly fire" incidents.
Yeah, I was asking because I remember a while back, someone mentioned how there'd been a larger than normal number of cop suicides - the way they're taught to do it is to leave their gun cleaning supplies out before shooting themselves, so other cops can claim it was accidental death rather than suicide.
There are a number of incidents I recall that make me wonder how much in the way of friendly fire incidents police departments around the US are hiding.
The in the raid that killed Breonna Taylor, one of the officers fired blind(he couldn't see into the apartment at all) into her apartment.
The immigrant(European) woman who was shot by a cop in Minneapolis a few years back.
She had called the police to report someone suspicious in the alley. When a squad car with two officers responded, she went out to talk to them. The officer sitting on the passenger side shot her through the closed driver's door of the squad car. What the hell, he could have easily accidentally shot his partner.
Cops go to a house looking for a suspect with gang ties. It's the suspects father's (or grandfather's I don't remember which) house.
They had been having trouble with a rival gang, so when someone pounded on the door, the father/grandfather went to answer it with a shotgun in hand.
The cops busted in the door with a battering ram just before the old man got to it.
One of the cops is killed. The old man is shot, but not killed.
He claims he dropped the shotgun as soon as he saw it was cops. The cops say he shot the officer who died.
Here's the kicker that makes me suspect friendly fire. News reports at the time said the cop who died was shot in the BACK of the head.
The immigrant(European) woman who was shot by a cop in Minneapolis a few years back.
(Australian)
There are a number of incidents I recall that make me wonder how much in the way of friendly fire incidents police departments around the US are hiding.
I'm sure there's tons. Usually, I'd bet they try to pin the pig's death on whoever the cops were shooting at. (Hell, the felony murder rule actually makes that easy. Doesn't matter why the cop died, just that he died during the commission of a felony count of resisting arrest.)
But as to cop shooting accuracy, I recall a show from the early 90s - The Commish. One episode, the main character spouted off about how well his cops trained with their weapons, and was challenged on it. So he had to run a specific route in a set time to get to the range and stop and fire as rapidly as possible. Barely hit the paper, let alone the target. So then everyone had to try, and the results were equally pathetic. (Then, he actually made that routine required training, and required all patrol officers to attain at least reasonable proficiency quickly, and this being a TV show wasn't immediately shut down by the union for imposing things not collectively bargained on.)
But the point is, for all you hear about all the cops who only ever fire their weapon when they have to (re)qualify with it at the range, how many of them would actually be able to actually run until they were winded, and still hit the target they intended to shoot? For that matter, how many would make the right decision about who to shoot and who not to?
But as to cop shooting accuracy, I recall a show from the early 90s
On that front I recall reading about a real incident in NYC with the NYPD (not sure if I could re-find it at this point:
Half a dozen NYPD officers respond to a call about a drunk in an intersection.
The drunk isn't responding to their commands, probably because he's too drunk to understand them, so they decide to shoot him. 6 officers empty their guns. 9 bystanders hit, fortunately none fatally.
The drunk doesn't even get nicked.
Half a dozen NYPD officers respond to a call about a drunk in an intersection.
Too bad they didn't surround him. Although how he'd have been arrested for six counts of murder after they all killed each other would be strange...
Kinda makes ya wonder where these peace officers learned to use their peace keeping implements
Kinda makes ya wonder where these peace officers learned to use their peace keeping implements
This is why I have issues with the whole "Open Carry" thing. If cops who are trained and tested can't hit anything you can imagen how bad a "Big gun/Little dick" person would do.
If cops who are trained and tested can't hit anything
The training and testing they go through isn't half as good as you think it is.
responsible gun owners get trained and most shoot better then a lot of cops
Most of them get a lot more range time.
My understanding is that most PDs, officers have to qualify once a year. They get a couple of hours or range time over a couple of weeks right before they have to qualify and that's about it.
And when they do qualify, the minimum standard they have to meet would barely qualify them for a "participation trophy" at a competitive shooting event.
responsible gun owners get trained and most shoot better then a lot of cops
Whilst I can't speak for other nations, I have taken part in the operation of quite a few UK shooting competitions, and frankly, the general standard of shooting is abysmal. Often we would sit in the butts listening to the fire (mainly the lack of it!) wondering if the shooters planned on firing anytime soon. When shots did ring out we would peer up to see if it had been our lane that fired. Grouping, (if they fired enough shots) was non-existent. One or two competent firers was standard out of a group of ten/twelve. Longer ranges (200m+) were generally used at the end of competitions once all the dross was removed. Outside of Gamekeepers/a few farmers, I would say the standard of general UK shooting is 'poor'.
Not really a bad thing to boast about really.
And don't get me started on range discipline (lack of).... LOL
Given the state of gun laws in the UK, I'm surprised they can get more than a few gamekeepers and or farmers to show up for a competitive shooting event.
Heck, I'm surprised they still have competitive shooting events.
P.S. You mention 200M+. Rifle shooting competitions are a very different thing from pistol competitions with the latter more relevant to police shooting skills.
This is why I have issues with the whole "Open Carry" thing. If cops who are trained and tested can't hit anything you can imagen how bad a "Big gun/Little dick" person would do.
One of the main reasons for open carry is that hopefully just knowing the other person is armed, that will prevent most from escalating a situation where it would even need to be pulled in the first place.
However, there are also a lot of people who simply do it because they are douchebags. I had a CC when I lived in Texas, and have done both open and concealed. But only rarely did I ever really do it.
However, there are also a lot of people who simply do it because they are douchebags.
Yeah, but usually, they'll wear a uniform and/or a badge too.
Well, there was a case involving the NYPD two or three years back, although I have no idea how I'd find a reference to it.
There was some incident - probably an accident - and the first officer on the scene was an off-duty member of the NYPD, he started doing the typical cop things like directing traffic - I'm very hazy on the details.
Then the cops turned up, so far so good. The handover from off-duty to on-duty did not go at all well, basically because one of the cops (he later said "I felt threatened") shot and wounded the off-duty officer. The off-duty officer's skin color was of a somewhat darker hue.
I saw this reported shortly after it happened, no idea how things subsequently panned out.
The victim was an Australian woman, the cop was originally from somewhere around Ethiopia, Sudan or Somalia.
The victim was an Australian woman
IIRC: She was a permanent resident alien. She had applied for but not yet been granted citizenship.
Let's not forget the man gunned down in his own home by cops responding to a prank 911 call from some asshole in another state.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/29/us/wichita-shooting-swatting.html
Not to mention all those killed during so call welfare checks like the mother shot while playing video game with son because neighbor saw the front door open.
A cop has the right to enter your home without a warrant if he says he is there for a welfare check.
Rifle shooting competitions are a very different thing from pistol competitions
That is very true, however I have noticed that if you can do one, then you can do the other. And the opposite is also true - If you are shite at one, then you are going to be shite at the other... Also, WH skills cross over; If you are an idiot with one, you are going to be an idiot with the other.
Thank you both, for some reason I was thinking it may have been part of a longer story, I knew if I left it here someone would find it for me 🙂
husband beat up by deputy while cuffed,try Aftermath by Stangstar06,wife was missing presumed dead.
Cheers.
