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madnige

In another thread a story was mentioned in which

a small part of which is where the protagonist steps in to get specific people elected to forestall problems.

His argument is that every elector has about ten areas in which he/she is strongly interested - perhaps religion, perhaps race ... but candidates only express opinions on perhaps two of those. In consequence for an individual voter his choice is for a candidate who fits two ideals but the voter doesn't know that his other eight interests are against the candidates' views because he never answers questions about them.


I've made this thread to continue that query without cluttering the original thread with too much off-topic stuff.

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ustourist

@madnige

In WRC 3 they visited various candidates to convince them to stand, and my memory tells me that something similar to the range of opinions was discussed.

Unfortunately, my memory is suffering from old age, so unless I go back and read it again I can't be certain. I am sure it wasn't A Fresh Start as has been suggested and with the other one being a Lazlo story it could well have similar sentiments.
If it isn't WRC then it is even more frustrating, because I recall the points clearly and they were well made.

ustourist

@madnige

I can remember the MC and entourage visiting a retired female judge (I think) at home to convince her to run.

From original thread...

Was that the Mayor's wife? In a meeting in their pool? I seem to remember she was a former prostitute though not a judge.

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limab

@ustourist

William Redman Carter by Lazlo Zalezac

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limab

@limab

Oops replid to wrong person, sorry. Limab

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sejintenej

just posted to the other thread (before I read about this one)

madnige
I have a feeling it may be William Redman Carter Pt3, when he is using his computer analysis to project who will win seats.

sejintenej
I am pretty sure this is it with part 3, chapter 7,8,9 where he puts pressure on people to run. A quick shifty and I did not find his setting out his rationale but it has to be there somewhere

ustourist

@limab

I have been known to do that by mistake as well....no need to apologize. ;)

LonelyDad

According to my memory that is William Redman Carter. Most of the discussion you mention is in the first few chapters of Part 3:Soothsayer.

I know that because I just spent ten minutes or so looking for it, and it has grabbed my by the throat and told me I have to read the entire book by the end of this week. Good thing I'm retired and live alone.

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madnige

@LonelyDad

I have to read the entire book by the end of this week.

- that's two days; why so long? I think I'll finish Soothsayer tonight before going back to Ender's Game

Annoyingly, I'd thought of the 'crisis of followership' but decided it wasn't linked with the search, and still didn't identify WRC, doubly annoying as I read all the John Carter universe only a year or so ago. So, we're all in agreement that it's Lazlo Zalezac's William Redman Carter

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LonelyDad

@madnige


@LonelyDad

I have to read the entire book by the end of this week.

- that's two days; why so long? I think I'll finish Soothsayer tonight before going back to Ender's Game

I have two other books of equal length and quality I have to finish first. I have set a limit of two open books at a time or I begin to lose track.

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sejintenej

@LonelyDad


I know that because I just spent ten minutes or so looking for it, and it has grabbed my by the throat and told me I have to read the entire book by the end of this week. Good thing I'm retired and live alone.


I would advise starting with John Carter and going through the entire John Carter Universe in order. My favourite is Ed Biggers but they are each good

https://storiesonline.net/universe/19/john-carter

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LonelyDad

@LonelyDad

Well, I trashed the other two and finished William Redman Carter instead. Now I have to go back and read John Carter again, because WRC brought to mind all the wonderful scenes in John Carter that I want to reread. Sigh.

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sejintenej

@LonelyDad

I have two other books of equal length and quality I have to finish first. I have set a limit of two open books at a time or I begin to lose track.

I read only one at a time but I have three open so I don't forget what I have to read next. On top of that at this moment (but they will be read and gone in 15 minutes) I have the latest chapters of three other stories.

ustourist

@LonelyDad

You aren't the only one, though I went back to read Ed Biggers after finishing WRC.

MSimmons777

Those of you who think it's William Redman Carter are close, but it's not William Redman Carter by Lazlo Zalezac, it's Reset Manifesto by Lazlo Zalezac. The author is correct, but the story wasn't exact per the OP.

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red61544

@sejintenej

My favourite is Ed Biggers


But you have to fall in love with Betsy Carter and hope that in some other life you'll meet her.

madnige
Updated:

@MSimmons777

Pretty unlikely, as the original post predates Reset Manifesto by a month

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MSimmons777

@madnige

Sorry. I wasn't paying attention. Both stories have the same preminse though. Using one hot button to determine your candidate will let some pretty awful candidates come through. And you end up with grid lock as we have it here in the USA today. At the moment both parties are in a battle to maintain power and are not looking at what is the best for the country. The "other guys" just can't win. And the country loses.

I'm a registered Democrat, but I respect and admire a few Republicans. We lost a great man with John McCain. I've seen good and bad on both sides.

Lazlo Zalezac has some interesting ideas on what should be done to fix things. The likelihood that any thing will actually happen is minimal.

Obliterous

What about this story I just read.

Could it happen. Link

its usually good form to give a link to the author page, and to NOT spam story links on every active topic on the forum...

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