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Crumbly Writer 🚫

Having just completed "Norse, A Star Academy Prequel," I was wondering WTF happened to the original Star Academy? I'm assuming it was deleted once the whole purge occurred, and while it's possible the author may repost it, I'm guessing he'll revise before he does, so at my age, I'm not holding my breath waiting for that to occur.

I recall reading about the "Star Academy" film in the author's Stupid Man series, but even then, it was no longer listed in his stories/series link. So I know the basics, but does anyone still have access to the original?

sunseeker 🚫
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@Crumbly Writer

I don't believe he has written Star Academy yet but I may be wrong, You can email the author and ask if he has though, and if he has, is it available on his site

SunSeeker

jimq2 🚫

@Crumbly Writer

His webpage still calls it the long awaited "Star Academy" novel.

Replies:   Harold Wilson
Harold Wilson 🚫

@jimq2

His webpage still calls it the long awaited "Star Academy" novel.

And apparently, it still is! ;-)

awnlee jawking 🚫

@Crumbly Writer

'Star Academy' was first mentioned as a film, in which the Mary Sue character had a leading part.

AJ

Cassie63 🚫

@Crumbly Writer

"Star Academy" is a Movie David was casted in through his meeting Ashley Judd at Kentucky University it was part of the "Stupid Boy" series I believe in his Sophomore year, he decided to create a whole series around the "Star Academy" movie.

Replies:   Crumbly Writer
Crumbly Writer 🚫

@Cassie63

That was my original understanding, yet typically when that's the case, most authors would admit that it's an original—especially as practically rereleasing their old works as new works. I typically avoid those, as I'm constantly scratching my head asking "Is this new, old or just utterly bungled?"

In my case (from years past) anytime I'd revise a work, I'd retitle it, then list, as a part of the subtitle, "Previously published as …", so readers would know they aren't the same and could then compare and contrast the two separate versions.

The newest generation of authors don't dare allowing anyone to compare any version of their works, which is precisely why they delete/overwrite the originals.

But at least I finally know that I'm not losing what little mind I actually have left.

Replies:   jimq2
jimq2 🚫

@Crumbly Writer

It is not a rerelease/revision. He hasn't published the Star Academy book yet.

Replies:   Crumbly Writer
Crumbly Writer 🚫

@jimq2

I figured out what upset me, as while movies often use the term "Prequel", literary works rarely do, as most books don't begin with a prequel, as the prequel is an addition—like in Star Wars, long after I quit actively following it, where they started whole new story lines about the characters before before the original series of trilogies, like the infamous Terminator Prequel.

Thus the term "Prequel" implies that the story already exists. I hadn't noted that that's what triggered my response to it. If I had, I'd have responded the same, yet I could at least have somewhat justified my response. A term like "Star Academy: Beginning" or even "Star Academy Introduction" would have more straightforward.

Replies:   akarge
akarge 🚫
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@Crumbly Writer

A term like "Star Academy: Beginning" or even "Star Academy Introduction" would have more straightforward.

Except that "Norse" is not the Beginning of "Star Academy". It is a story set way in the past. Sort of like "The Hobbit" was set in the past of "The Lord of the Rings," and has generally (although not by the author) been called a 'prequel' to the trilogy.

I think the labeling, as is, works. Besides, it's the authors' prerogative to chose the title that they want for their stories.

Replies:   Crumbly Writer
Crumbly Writer 🚫

@akarge

Yeah, I got that. In retrospect, I was thinking of the Star Academy Preview, which is stated earlier, and the term threw me so it took a bit to process why. And once again, the example of The Hobbit was a typical prequel (written subsequently to the originals). I tend to see published previews as of the literary equivalent of prequels, though Hollywood definitely disagrees with me on that.

But as far as you're 'whatever the author' chooses argument, you'd be fine if he'd named it Shoo-shoo, Moonpie Express Gonanza instead, which aside from the last word, has been used before (music lyrics, not the actual Moonpie brand ad-line).

In publishing, there are standards, just like there are in any other field. You may not like or approve of them, yet luckily, you have no actual veto power over literary standards.

Replies:   MarissaHorne
MarissaHorne 🚫

@Crumbly Writer

And once again, the example of The Hobbit was a typical prequel (written subsequently to the originals).

Well, this is just wrong.

The Hobbit was written in the 1930s and published on 21st September 1937. The Lord of the Rings was conceived as a sequel to The Hobbit, written in the late 30s and 40s, and first published on 29th July 1954. (I learned this either by reading a biography of JRRT, his Letters, or the relevant part of the History of Middle-Earth (HOME) series.)

itsmehonest 🚫

@Crumbly Writer

He also has a habit of mentioning his other stories within his work. or should it be?
He also has a habit of mentioning his other work in his stories. I've come to anticipate a reference to "You can sell Anything on Craigs List"

G Younger 🚫

@Crumbly Writer

Norse is a prequel to the Star Academy series. It has yet to be written.

G. Younger

ystokes 🚫

@Crumbly Writer

There is another story on this site that also has a film called "Star Academy" staring someone called David James Barker.
"Teen Dreams" by https://storiesonline.net/a/professorc

jimq2 🚫

@Crumbly Writer

And has no connection to the stories by G Younger, even though the MC is also named David.

Replies:   Crumbly Writer
Crumbly Writer 🚫

@jimq2

Duplicate book names are fairly common. in fact, it's often quite challenging to create a unique one to prevent you work from being confused from dozens of others (like my earlier references to my one-time "Stranded" book title.

The most common titles for novels seem to be first names (both women and men, though women have the clear lead in that regard), yet those are easier to associate with the novel and the printed cover image, which also tend to be more memorable than most.

And yeah, I also enjoyed Teen Dreams, though my long-term Covid memory couldn't recall (I caught it from my 90-year-old mother). Yet another reason why I ceased publishing.

Replies:   ystokes
ystokes 🚫

@Crumbly Writer

And yeah, I also enjoyed Teen Dreams,

I enjoyed the first book but in the following books there became too much drama between David and Cal. Not to mention he kept forgiving the BITCH. That is unforgivable.

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