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story involving both london and france

dstar ๐Ÿšซ

I can't remember much of the story; just that it involved the main character inheriting a hotel in london (that might have been a brothel, effectively?)and an estate in france. Sex trafficking was definitely part of it, and the french authorities let him buy a large section of effectively worthless land... but I seem to remember him allowing the special forces to use a swamp as training grounds?

Does this ring any bells?

Replies:   Sparky-1953
Sparky-1953 ๐Ÿšซ

@dstar

Tycoon by Raven Soule.

Replies:   redlion75
redlion75 ๐Ÿšซ

@Sparky-1953

Sadly unfinished

Sparky-1953 ๐Ÿšซ

@redlion75

I seem to recollect that RS had agreed for someone else to finish it but never saw anything. It seems to only lack a few chapters unless there was another plot twist in the works.

awnlee_jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@redlion75

Tycoon by Raven Soule.

Sadly unfinished

And that's a compelling reason why readers should be allowed to vote on an unfinished story.

AJ

Replies:   Dinsdale  Dicrostonyx
Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ
Updated:

@awnlee_jawking

Readers can vote on unfinished stories, simply go to the last chapter and vote (or if you're a premier member, you can go to your history list and vote there).
Look at any "in progress" story and you will see that it has votes.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

Readers can vote on a unfinished stories

I know, but under another topic some people were arguing that readers shouldn't be allowed to vote on an unfinished story.

AJ

Replies:   sunseeker  helmut_meukel
sunseeker ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

each author can choose to let readers vote or not so why are they arguing? If one of them doesn't want readers to vote until their story is finished then they can make that choice.

Replies:   helmut_meukel
helmut_meukel ๐Ÿšซ

@sunseeker

each author can choose to let readers vote or not

IIRC, Lazeez changed this to voting always on.
But I searched for the forum post and didn't find the announcement.

HM.

Replies:   awnlee jawking  Dinsdale
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ
Updated:

@helmut_meukel

IIRC, Lazeez changed this to voting always on.

But I searched for the forum post and didn't find the announcement.

I remember the announcement, although I can't find it, but didn't it specify a date in the future after which it would apply?

ETA the voting on/off buttons are still present in the 'manage stories' facility. I haven't tried them though.

AJ

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@awnlee jawking

ETA the voting on/off buttons are still present in the 'manage stories' facility.

where?

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

SOL Home Page

Authors/Editors

Select your pen name, if you have more than one

Manage Stories

AJ

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@awnlee jawking

That's where they used to be. I removed them long ago.

You said you were actually seeing the buttons. I don't. Where do you see them? If you're sure you see them, then send me a screen shot of the actual buttons. As far as I can tell, there is no such buttons in my code.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

I don't know whether I'm senile or something has changed since yesterday but today it says 'Comments' rather than 'Voting'.

AJ

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@awnlee jawking

No worries.

It's just you got me worried that I may have missed something somewhere.

It's a familiarity issue. We get used to seeing something and we don't focus on stuff we don't use much to notice any changes. Those buttons all look the same and you take it for granted.

Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@helmut_meukel

IIRC, Lazeez changed this to voting always on.
But I searched for the forum post and didn't find the announcement.

Ditto.
I can remember this particular announcement but a search of the items in https://storiesonline.net/d/s1/site-announcements does not throw anything up which looks as though it could be a match.

Replies:   AmigaClone
AmigaClone ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

I can remember this particular announcement but a search of the items in https://storiesonline.net/d/s1/site-announcements does not throw anything up which looks as though it could be a match.

That's because the announcement was made in the author's hangout. Click here to go to that post.

helmut_meukel ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Readers can vote on a unfinished stories

I know, but under another topic some people were arguing that readers shouldn't be allowed to vote on an unfinished story.

The problem I can see from the author's POV with voting on an ongoing serial after the first or second chapter, ist the voting reader votes before coming to the 'good' parts (like in a restaurant rejecting the meal after tasting just one component of the first course of a eight course meal).

The author can avoid this by posting the first five chapters together and then switch to his intended posting scheme. The reader then can first vote at the end of chapter 5.

Nobody can prevent a reader to jump โ€“ after reading only part of chapter 1 (or not reading at all) โ€“ to the end of the last available chapter and cast his vote.
But this is true for completed stories too:
download the title page,
select the last chapter,
download it,
jump to Bottom,
cast your vote;
all without reading a single word of the story.

HM.

Replies:   awnlee jawking  Dinsdale
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@helmut_meukel

The author can avoid this by posting the first five chapters together and then switch to his intended posting scheme. The reader then can first vote at the end of chapter 5.

A chapter isn't a consistent unit of length. A Pixy chapter is about ten times the length of my chapters.

AJ

Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@helmut_meukel

The author can avoid this by posting the first five chapters together and then switch to his intended posting scheme. The reader then can first vote at the end of chapter 5.

A number of authors used to start posting serials with voting turned off, then turn it on when they reached a point where they thought it made sense.

Nobody can prevent a reader to jump โ€“ after reading only part of chapter 1 (or not reading at all) โ€“ to the end of the last available chapter and cast his vote.

As a general rule, the longer the story (more "the more chapters it has" than "the more words"), the higher its score. Your comment implied - to me - that you thought some readers would be voting stories down without having read them, but that seems to happen relatively rarely.

helmut_meukel ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

A number of authors used to start posting serials with voting turned off, then turn it on when they reached a point where they thought it made sense.

I used 5 just as a number, meant as substitute for the number of chapters the author deems necessary for voting making sense.
While those authors can't start posting with voting off, they can hold back the first chapters and then post them together, actually starting voting with the highest posted chapter.

HM.

helmut_meukel ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

Your comment implied - to me - that you thought some readers would be voting stories down without having read them, but that seems to happen relatively rarely.

After reading complaints here for years by authors about 1-bombers I think it may happen often enough and my impression was even authors who post complete, not serialized, stories are affected by 1-bombers. I doubt those 1-bombers read all chapters and then cast their 1-vote; so yes, there are "readers" who cast down stories without having read the story.

HM.

Dicrostonyx ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee_jawking

OTOH, it's also a compelling reason to only post completed stories, not ones in progress.

Not saying you're wrong, just that there are different ways of viewing the problem of unfinished stories.

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