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What's the "ENF" tag?

TheirTheyre 🚫

I just saw a story appear in the New Stories listing with an "ENF" tag.

Doing a search on the tag, it seem to appear on Naked In School-type stories quite a bit, so I suspect the E might be "Enforced".

I'm not sure though. What's the actual meaning, please?

Thanks!

TT

Hero68 🚫

@TheirTheyre

The description says "Embarrassed woman because she has somehow lost her clothes and cannot avoid embarrassing encounters". So probably Embarrassed Naked Female.

Replies:   StarFleet Carl  Not_a_ID
StarFleet Carl 🚫

@Hero68

Embarrassed Naked Female

Yep.

It's down in the bottom, with the 'Other' tags.

Not_a_ID 🚫
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@Hero68

The description says "Embarrassed woman because she has somehow lost her clothes and cannot avoid embarrassing encounters". So probably Embarrassed Naked Female.

The tag is something around 20 years old for that "community" as a whole.

You also have ENM (although much less common) which would be the Embarrassed Naked Male

OON (Only One Naked)

CMNF (clothed male, naked female)

CFNM (clothed female, naked male)

CFNF (clothed female, naked female)

CMNM (clothed male, naked male) --given SOL's history on that kind of subject matter, I doubt that would see much use here.

Are the other major variants from there. (and those codes, as used, allow for multiples to be present for a "single letter" in this case, so CMNF could be 1 clothed guy, 1 naked female; or 30 guys, and 1 naked female; or 1 clothed guy and 2 or more naked women.)

Then you have the various mixed group permutations where the "clothed" tag either denotes the gender(-bias) of the major characters who keep their clothes on normally, or the specific group encounter that happens.

NF or NM tags with no prefixes to denote who they're naked with also happen.

TheirTheyre 🚫

@TheirTheyre

Thanks!

awnlee jawking 🚫

@TheirTheyre

I was planning to suggest Ear, Nose and Froat ;-)

AJ

Replies:   richardshagrin
richardshagrin 🚫

@awnlee jawking

England, Norway, Finland.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son 🚫

@richardshagrin

Enough New Fuel

Empty Noggin Festival

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking 🚫

@Dominions Son

Eternal Night Fantasy

Vampires rule!

AJ

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son 🚫

@awnlee jawking

Vampires rule!

Vampires suck*

*your blood

Replies:   joyR
joyR 🚫

@Dominions Son

Vampires suck*

*your blood

This is of course a myth.

As evidenced by the two puncture marks left after feeding, the vampire's fangs puncture the jugular and the victim's own heart pumps the blood up the hollow fangs and thence into the vampire's arteries. Since the heart of the undead does not beat, no suction is possible.

It should be noted that the pale face of the vampire is further evidence, as due to the non-beating heart their blood does not circulate but moves only by gravity, thus the pale face. The vampire is often though to be bat like due to their need to hang inverted regularly so as to give gravity time to draw their blood back from their lower legs and feet.

Replies:   StarFleet Carl
StarFleet Carl 🚫

@joyR

the pale face

What happens when they meet Tonto? After all, the Masked Man does carry silver bullets.

Damn - I just realized the Lone Ranger wasn't out to settle justice, he was a vampire slayer!

Replies:   joyR  Dominions Son  Mushroom
joyR 🚫

@StarFleet Carl

Damn - I just realized the Lone Ranger wasn't out to settle justice, he was a vampire slayer!

Yup. And he died whilst up against half a dozen vampires with only his six gun. He shot and killed five but the sixth did him in because he just had to leave one silver bullet behind…

No, I'm not old enough to remember, but it was in a recent "jokes & giggles" post.

Dominions Son 🚫

@StarFleet Carl

Damn - I just realized the Lone Ranger wasn't out to settle justice, he was a vampire slayer!

Silver bullets are for werewolves, not vampires.

Replies:   joyR
joyR 🚫

@Dominions Son

Silver bullets are for werewolves, not vampires.

Hollow point silver jacketed wooden bullet with holy water tip. Kills both types and fragments on impact thus vastly reducing collateral damage, or as we say in the UK, killing innocent bystanders.

Replies:   Mushroom  Radagast
Mushroom 🚫

@joyR

Hollow point silver jacketed wooden bullet with holy water tip.

Which in traditions, repelled them and could cause burns, but did not kill them like poison. Other traditions listed it as causing them no direct harm, but immersing a vampire in a cask of it would prevent them from rising.

And much of the myth in more recent years emerged because one of the things they could not do in antiquity was cross running water. Running water not only made up political and geographical boundaries in the era, it was also seen as "pure and clean". Unlike swamps and mires, which were traditional homes for vampires.

Replies:   joyR
joyR 🚫

@Mushroom

Which in traditions, repelled them... etc

Which totally ignores both wood and silver.

could not do in antiquity was cross running water

So do mains water pipes count as running water?

Replies:   Mushroom
Mushroom 🚫
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@joyR

Which totally ignores both wood and silver.

Actually, according to most traditions, they were damned near impossible to "kill". The most the people could do was to prevent them from rising again. The most you could ever really do is use one of the methods to keep them in a single place in a "dead" state.

Wood by itself, no. But a wood stake through the heart or clasped into their jaws was seen as a way to prevent them from "reanimating" again. In some traditions it had to be wood from a specific tree. But in others, it could be anything placed into the mouth (including stones and bricks).

Silver, almost completely ineffective unless it was in the form of a holy symbol that was of a religion that the vampire had followed in life before being "corrupted". But even then, does not kill or even really harm them, they just avoid it and will normally not approach somebody wielding one.

Water in pipes, not enough to prevent their crossing. Traditionally, it was the immersion in "clean water" that would harm them. Especially in an era where there were few bridges. But non-moving and stagnant water was no problem. Hence, the outbreaks of "Vampires" in Venice during the Middle Ages. The slow moving brackish canals did nothing to prevent them from spreading through the city. They can cross over water with no problem, like bridges or boats. They can not stand to be in "clean" water.

In fact, one of the things I find amusing in the more recent "popular myths" is the concept of beheading a vampire. Which in folklore would do nothing. In fact, in some lore the head is what was "animated", and some vampires even had the ability to disconnect their heads from their bodies and "take flight". Some even with the entrails still attached. And if their body became damaged or putrefied, they could even take the body of a decapitated corpse.

Replies:   Dominions Son  joyR
Dominions Son 🚫

@Mushroom

. Traditionally, it was the immersion in "clean water" that would harm them. Especially in an era where there were few bridges.

Hmm, would that mean that in the modern era a fire hose or water cannon would be a viable anti-vampire weapon?

Replies:   Mushroom
Mushroom 🚫
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@Dominions Son

Hmm, would that mean that in the modern era a fire hose or water cannon would be a viable anti-vampire weapon?

No. It does not "harm" them, no more than a holy symbol would. They just avoid it, and according to most traditions they are incapable of swimming and it weakens them. Being sprayed or rained on, no real effect.

And interesting side note, many believe that the legend possibly comes from rabies. As many of the traditions attributed to vampires are the same as if somebody had rabies. Avoiding light, avoiding water, spreading the disease to others through a bite, as well as the aggression, strength, and strong sexual desire. And becoming more "feral" as the disease ravages their brain.

In the early stages, a person infected with rabies is little different than before they got the disease. But as it advances, the biggest effect is in their behavior. Delirium, abnormal behavior, aggression, hallucinations, and insomnia (along with increased sensitivity to light means they are more active at night when others are asleep). Also, one of the other signs of the disease, hydrophobia. Hence, the origin of this aspect of the legend.

Replies:   StarFleet Carl
StarFleet Carl 🚫

@Mushroom

It does not "harm" them, no more than a holy symbol would.

What about if it was Holy Water? In one of the Monster Hunter International books by Larry Correia, they use backpack sprayers with holy water.

Replies:   Mushroom  Remus2
Mushroom 🚫

@StarFleet Carl

What about if it was Holy Water? In one of the Monster Hunter International books by Larry Correia, they use backpack sprayers with holy water.

That is a book, I am talking traditional the folklore itself.

Remember, in the Anne Rice series Louis admitted that it had no affect on him at all. And that he rather liked crucifixes and garlic. What an author decided to put into a book may have little or nothing to do with what the actual folklore says. Including even having some "sparkle", explaining why they rarely go out in the daylight.

Honestly, I think the "Contact with holy water" in modern tales mostly comes from Dungeons and Dragons. Where it really was changed into something that actually harmed them instead of their just avoiding it. In the book "Dracula", it was used to either keep him away, or to keep somebody in the process of being turned confined in place so she could not meet him again. It was never actually used as a weapon, Stoker was writing based on folklore. Not what more modern authors and screen writers have expanded it into.

I am only talking the actual folklore itself, not how some author decides to interpret it. In traditions, they only avoided it (like sprinkling it around Dracula's Piccadilly home), and at the most it might cause burns. And only in "Christian" areas, as "Holy Water" as such was not a part of the lore at all outside of Europe (and the US by extension).

Remus2 🚫
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@StarFleet Carl

What about if it was Holy Water?

So a priest waves a thurible about adding salt or ashes to water and it's susposed to kill vampires?

joyR 🚫

@Mushroom

Actually, according to most traditions, they were damned near impossible to "kill".

And there lies the problem. The traditions vary, both over time and from place to place, so, like religion, everyone gets to proclaim their version as true and decry every other version as wrong.

So. In the tradition that SB and I were referring to, a silver coated wooden bullet with a holy water tip kills a vampire.

You are welcome to believe your tradition is correct, you are not welcome to denigrate someone else's tradition.

Radagast 🚫

@joyR

Vampire hunter's Colt, complete with silvet bullets. Never fired, even though its stored near Mordor on the Potomac where all the blood suckers live:
http://www.nramuseum.org/guns/the-galleries/robert-e-petersen-collection/exceptional-engraved-handguns/vampire-hunter's-colt.aspx

Replies:   joyR
joyR 🚫

@Radagast

Cute but no thanks.

My choice would have a longer barrel, larger calibre and spare mags

:)

Mushroom 🚫
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@StarFleet Carl

Damn - I just realized the Lone Ranger wasn't out to settle justice, he was a vampire slayer!

Wrong creature. That was even covered decades ago in a movie.

Doctor Jeff Rosenberg : The second way to kill a vampire, Count; three silver bullets through the heart!

Cindy Soundheim : Jeffrey!

[Jeff shoots Dracula three times]

Count Dracula : No, Rosenberg, that is a werewolf

Doctor Jeff Rosenberg : A werewolf? Really? Are you sure?

[Guards start to take him away]

Doctor Jeff Rosenberg : [to the guards] No harm done! The man's all right! This was for a werewolf! No problem! Calm down! Take it easy! I'm a doctor! I know where I'm going!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_xsdo57-Ow

Pete Fox 🚫

@TheirTheyre

I had that same question awhile ago. I wrote the site moderator. ENF does not work well for Embarrassed Female.

Dominions Son 🚫

@Pete Fox

I had that same question awhile ago. I wrote the site moderator. ENF does not work well for Embarrassed Female.

ENT=Embarased Naked Female.

awnlee jawking 🚫

@Pete Fox

I had that same question awhile ago. I wrote the site moderator. ENF does not work well for Embarrassed Female.

There's a perceived misogyny about SOL, and having ENF without ENM does nothing to dispel that.

IIRC there's a recent story about a boy being stripped and humiliated by a gang of dominant females, so it's not as though ENM wouldn't have any use.

AJ

Replies:   madnige
madnige 🚫

@awnlee jawking

having ENF without ENM does nothing to dispel that.

So, change it to ENP (person)

Replies:   LupusDei
LupusDei 🚫

@madnige

Only, misogynistic or not, there's a very specific interest in the gender in the cases.

Quasirandom 🚫

@Pete Fox

Maybe not, but it's a standard use acronym on many story sites.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking 🚫

@Quasirandom

Maybe not, but it's a standard use acronym on many story sites.

I have to wonder how many of those sites are general fiction and how many are more specialised. (If I mention BDSM, Dominions Son (sic) will no doubt give me a roasting).

AJ

Replies:   Quasirandom  joyR  Not_a_ID
Quasirandom 🚫

@awnlee jawking

I've never touched a BDSM-specific site and seen that tag. (Took me a quick search to find a translation, first time I met it, not to mention CMNF and CFNM.)

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking 🚫

@Quasirandom

I've never touched a BDSM-specific site and seen that tag.

So much for my powers of deduction.

Perhaps someone will enlighten me as to the meaning of 'that community'.

AJ

joyR 🚫

@awnlee jawking

(If I mention BDSM, Dominions Son (sic) will no doubt give me a roasting).

Spit roasting isn't a purely BDSM activity. In fact it is often practised by (UK) football players upon an unsuspecting but drunk young lady... It usually starts in a hotel bedroom and ends in a courtroom.

Besides, who is DS to roast you AJ, his very initials are the core of BDSM

:)

richardshagrin 🚫

@joyR

core of BDSM

Most people don't want to be surrounded by BM.

"What Does BM Mean?
The abbreviation BM is most often used with the meanings "Black Man," "Baby Mama," and "Bad Mannered." However, it is also sometimes used to mean "Bowel Movement" and "BMW." Here's a little more information about each of these definitions of BM. (Examples of use can also be found below.)
Black Man
BM is used on dating sites (such as Craigslist, Tinder, Zoosk and Match.com), with the meaning "Black Man" to indicate that a user is, or is looking to make contact with, a black male.
Baby Mama
BM is also used with the meaning "Baby Mama" (or sometimes "Baby Mother" or "Baby Mummy"), to refer to a woman who is not married to or in a significant relationship with her child's father. (See also BD (Baby Daddy)).
Bad Mannered
BM is also used with the meaning "Bad Mannered." In this context, it is most often used in gaming circles (e.g., on apps such as Discord or Telegram) to complain about a lack of courtesy shown by someone.
Bowel Movement
BM is sometimes used to mean "Bowel Movement." The origins of the use of BM in this context are unclear, but it was popularized in an episode of the animated series Family Guy (series 3, episode 14), in a conversation between father and son, Peter and Chris:
Chris: "What's a library, dad?"
Peter: "Oh, it's just a place where homeless people come to shave and go BM."
You can view this entire episode of family Guy at Dailymotion. (No pun intended!)
BMW
BM is also sometimes used as a spoken abbreviation, to refer to the German car maker BMW."

awnlee jawking 🚫

@joyR

and ends in a courtroom

only if they refuse to pay her

AJ

Not_a_ID 🚫
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@awnlee jawking

I have to wonder how many of those sites are general fiction and how many are more specialised. (If I mention BDSM, Dominions Son (sic) will no doubt give me a roasting).

ENF was/is a story tag I do look for on occasion.

One of the sites I went to happened to have a lot of BDSM content associated with it. ENF/ENM was reasonably common enough there, if only because they were doing naked female or naked male in the context of having their subs being not allowed to wear clothing while performing tasks in general.

Although CMNF/CFNF/CFNM was more common coding for the BDSM set.

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