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Three Square Meals by Tefler

fester82 ๐Ÿšซ

Just noticed on fanfiction that there is an author called donalgraeme that is posting a rewritten version of Three Square Meals using characters from Naruto, what I have read seems like a straight up rip with just the names changed.

palamedes ๐Ÿšซ

Go to Tefler page and send them an email letting them know.

https://storiesonline.net/a/tefler

But it might be the same author using a different name so that if a kid does and internet search for his name that it will not be directed back to SOL.

palamedes ๐Ÿšซ

That is the best we can do is to try and notify the author in any way shape or form.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@palamedes

There is another option. He has a Patreon page. It might be possible to contact him there.

Ferrum1 ๐Ÿšซ

Tefler's good about responding it you post on his Patreon page. I don't know if one of his many fans hasn't already notified him of the situation, but I'd feel confident they have.

captain351 ๐Ÿšซ

@fester82

Has anybody heard from Telfer? Almost 2 months without a post! With the reality of Covid you have to worry when you don't hear from somebody for a while. Praying we don't have another Robert Jordan situation!!!

Replies:   Dominions Son  ringill98
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ
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@captain351

The last status update on his Patreon page (you can get the URL from his SOL author profile) was Feb 28th. He's posting updates about progress on TSM chapter 139. No idea why he hasn't posted past 135 on SOL yet.

ETA: I took a look at the posting dates for some of the more recent chapters. While he would occasionally post two chapters in a month, for at lest the last year it has been one chapter every two or 3 months

ringill98 ๐Ÿšซ

@captain351

Just to update @Dominions Son post, Ch136 appeared on Patreon in 2 parts, the first was posted 28th August and the second 1st November with the combined version 20th November. Ch.137 was 1st December with the final version 10th January, Ch.138 1st January with final version also 10th January and Ch.139 1st March with an update on the 13th.

So yes he's still writing but there have been some gaps over the last 7 months.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@ringill98

So yes he's still writing but there have been some gaps over the last 7 months.

Yes, and wide gaps in new chapters showing up on SOL have been common for at least the last year. The earliest chapters went up on SOL in 2016.

Ferrum1 ๐Ÿšซ

@fester82

The good news is that Tefler is making good money off each individual chapter, so don't expect him to simply quit and never be heard from again. Life gets in the way sometimes, but I don't think there's any worry that he'll just give up and disappear.

captain351 ๐Ÿšซ

@fester82

I wasn't worried about him quitting! I was more concerned about Dying from Covid before he finished the story I've been reading for the last 3 years. Glad to hear all is well!

bk69 ๐Ÿšซ

@fester82

I think the bigger risk is he gets nailed by Laz for the whole 'tweaser' thing if he's increasingly taking longer and longer before updating here while building a bigger and bigger backlog on a pay site.

Replies:   Michael Loucks
Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ
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@bk69

I think the bigger risk is he gets nailed by Laz for the whole 'tweaser' thing if he's increasingly taking longer and longer before updating here while building a bigger and bigger backlog on a pay site.

Rule 17.b - Writer support (Patreon, Subscribestar etc...): If you promote your writing on Storiesonline and ask for financial support, you must keep the progress on Storiesonline relatively close to your postings on your support site. You must keep the work on Storiesonline within two installments of the work on the support site. If the work is completed on the support site, then it must be completed on Storiesonline within two weeks of the completion on the support site. Failure to keep up the progress will result in your work on Storiesonline being hidden until updated with new parts.

Note - posting the completed book to Bookapy in advance of posting to SOL meets the requirements for 'completed'.

Replies:   Keet  bk69  Ernest Bywater
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Michael Loucks

Note - posting the completed book to Bookapy in advance of posting to SOL meets the requirements for 'completed'.

That is a bit two-sided. Completed yes, but only for pay which means the author could very slowly post on SOL and immediately put it on Bookapy, but never finish the SOL posts. The postings on SOL will trigger sales on Bookapy but could also mean some readers are forced to buy it if they want to read the end, something which the other rules specifically prohibited. Nothing against Bookapy, I already bought a lot there, but the ruling seems a bit strange and open for abuse.

Replies:   bk69
bk69 ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

the author could very slowly post on SOL and immediately put it on Bookapy, but never finish the SOL posts. The postings on SOL will trigger sales on Bookapy but could also mean some readers are forced to buy it if they want to read the end, something which the other rules specifically prohibited.

but

Failure to keep up the progress will result in your work on Storiesonline being hidden until updated with new parts.

So presumably even if a story is on Bookapy, the author would be expected to release installments on a regular schedule, since it's not like it has to be written yet.

Replies:   Keet
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@bk69

So presumably even if a story is on Bookapy, the author would be expected to release installments on a regular schedule, since it's not like it has to be written yet.

Yes, for example one chapter every 2 weeks, and then stop at chapter 45 of 50 total. That's the unwanted scenario that becomes possible.

bk69 ๐Ÿšซ
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@Michael Loucks

You must keep the work on Storiesonline within two installments of the work on the support site.

So, Chap139 on Patreon and Chap135 on SOL would make him in violation of that...

Also, if a story is uploaded to bookapy and posted to SOL, isn't it expected to autopost at the writer's schedule?

Replies:   Michael Loucks
Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ
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@bk69

Also, if a story is uploaded to bookapy and posted to SOL, isn't it expected to autopost at the writer's schedule?

You can sell on Bookapy without posting to SOL BUT, once you start posting to SOL, you must maintain a regular schedule if the book is for sale anywhere. And Lazeez reserves the right to obtain the completed book (which he could obtain from Bookapy) and post it:

14. If you have your own stories site (or stories page on another site) and you post your stories here on Storiesonline too, you give permission to Storiesonline to take necessary action to keep your stories on WLPC's sites up-to-date and in sync with the versions on your own site at our discretion.

My own system is that I post to Bookapy a month before I start posting to SOL, but then post a chapter per day until it's posted. In-progress work is available via Patreon, but once the books are edited and proofread, they go on Bookapy immediately, and SOL a month later.

Other schemes are possible, so long as regular updates are posted AND you're within two releases of any other site. Your first post to SOL triggers the rules.

Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

@Michael Loucks

Let's put up all of the relevant sections so that people don't confused.

https://storiesonline.net/author/posting_guidelines.php

This is a binding contract between you (the author) and World Literature Publishing Co. (WLPC)

6. Teasers and blackmail are absolutely prohibited. (Teasers are any story parts that require or entice readers to read preceding or following parts on other sites or purchase those parts or sending money for further postings.)

14. If you have your own stories site (or stories page on another site) and you post your stories here on Storiesonline too, you give permission to Storiesonline to take necessary action to keep your stories on WLPC's sites up-to-date and in sync with the versions on your own site at our discretion.

17. Promotions: All promotions must be compliant with rule #6. No teasers. No permanently partial postings. If you start posting a book/story on the site, you must complete it if it's fully written. Failure to comply with these rules will result in a permanent ban on posting on Storiesonline.

a. Book Sales: Any promotional links or text to sell your complete books are allowed only if they point to our book shop Bookapy.com. Progress must be made at least weekly until the work is complete on Storiesonline. You authorize WLPC to complete the posting on Storiesonline in case you are unable to do it yourself.

b. Writer support (Patreon, Subscribestar etc...): If you promote your writing on Storiesonline and ask for financial support, you must keep the progress on Storiesonline relatively close to your postings on your support site. You must keep the work on Storiesonline within two instalments of the work on the support site. If the work is completed on the support site, then it must be completed on Storiesonline within two weeks of the completion on the support site. Failure to keep up the progress will result in your work on Storiesonline being hidden until updated with new parts.

As can be seen in that posting the completed work to Bookapy while having the story slowly posted to SoL is allowed. If you take way too long with it Lazeez could evoke section 14. and use the copy on Bookapy to complete the story on SoL - but it would have to be a very bad situation to make him act.

Replies:   bk69  joyR
bk69 ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

As can be seen in that posting the completed work to Bookapy while having the story slowly posted to SoL is allowed.

Actually, by the letter of the contract, new chapters are to be posted at least weekly. Yeah, Laz might not do anything if you queued it up to post every 10-11 days instead of every 7, but posting once a month might be enough to trigger action.

joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

If you take way too long with it Lazeez could evoke section 14

Presumably why the next book in the summer camp series hasn't been posted on SoL at all. Which is in line with the letter but not the spirit of the rules.

Replies:   Michael Loucks
Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

Presumably why the next book in the summer camp series hasn't been posted on SoL at all. Which is in line with the letter but not the spirit of the rules.

He ran afoul of the regular update/two release rule and pulled the book (his prerogative, obviously).

Replies:   StarFleet Carl
StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

@Michael Loucks

pulled the book

The other thing that happened was on his website, he'd post a picture of the day, plus some sponsored pictures that he'd get paid for if people clicked through. No big deal - except that each picture ALSO had a comments section.

Great, you post pictures of naked women, you're probably going to get a lot of positive comments, which is great. Then he started posting political pictures.

His site, his pictures - but just because people like looking at nekkid women that you post doesn't mean they're on the same side of the political spectrum. He couldn't handle the arguments, mostly because it turned out he suffered from Trump Derangement Syndrome and went overboard with it. He finally blew up at everyone and said that if you supported President Trump to fuck off and die, and he didn't want any people that supported Trump on his website.

bk69 ๐Ÿšซ

@fester82

So, should someone be a dick and report Tefler to Laz?

Replies:   Remus2
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@bk69

I doubt anyone needed to report anything after this thread. Laz likely monitors this forum.
Now as hammered890 reports, there has been an update. Interesting timing, no?

Replies:   Dominions Son  bk69
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Interesting timing, no?

Given the status updates on his Patreon page, he may have one more to post before he is fully in compliance with the SOL author agreement section regarding Patreon and other similar support sites.

It will be interesting to see how quickly the next chapter (137) shows up here.

bk69 ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Laz definitely monitors the forum. However, he likely doesn't read every thread. (He may grep for his name being mentioned, tho...)

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@bk69

(He may grep for his name being mentioned, tho...)

He has said not on previous threads. He monitors the All Threads By Date like the rest of us.

Ham890 ๐Ÿšซ

@fester82

He just updated a new chapter, I think he's just slowly working through new chapters on pateron and posting the older ones here intermittently.

Replies:   geeko
geeko ๐Ÿšซ
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@Ham890

From the FWIW category, Tefler has been spending the last year rewriting and expanding the original early chapters and selling them as the John Blake Chronicales on Amazon... he's up to volume 4 which covers the initial meeting of Calara's family through the first visit to Dragon March to rescue Rachel and the award ceremony in chapter 37... characters and storylines have been fleshed out and the sex scenes curtailed.... hence the probable reason for the longer passages of time between chapters... Edit: reversal of family meeting and Dragon March cuz I didn't remember the correct sequence...

Replies:   Not_a_ID
Not_a_ID ๐Ÿšซ

@geeko

From the FWIW category, Tefler has been spending the last year rewriting and expanding the original early chapters and selling them as the John Blake Chronicales on Amazon... he's up to volume 4 which covers the initial meeting of Calara's family through the first visit to Dragon March to rescue Rachel and the award ceremony in chapter 37... characters and storylines have been fleshed out and the sex scenes curtailed.... hence the probable reason for the longer passages of time between chapters... Edit: reversal of family meeting and Dragon March cuz I didn't remember the correct sequence...

Uh, volume 4 went on sale on Amazon in January 2019, two years ago.

His personal life has been crazy this past year, his wife had some stuff happen at work which resulted in an employment change, with that happening just before Covid hit and disrupted everything. Other family medical issues happened as I recall(not Covid though). He's had a period of writer's block, then a "pause" here recently as he shifts to working through plotting/fleshing out the next story arc now that he's made it to the end of the current one.

And he has some young kids to take care of and as he's the one who stays at home normally(paired with Covid lockdowns)...

bp013 ๐Ÿšซ

@fester82

Well, I just noticed the story has been disappeared.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@bp013

It's been hidden because he is in violation of the SOL rules covering the use of support sites like Patreon.

The rules require that he keeps SOL within two chapters of what's available on his Patreon page. It's currently five ahead of what's been posted to SOL.

Per Lazeez it will reappear if/when he posts enough to SOL to get back in compliance with the rules.

bp013 ๐Ÿšซ

@fester82

Fair enough, hope he hurries.

Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@fester82

Chapter 138 is published.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

Chapter 138 is published.

Eek! No page breaks. If it's the same length as previous chapters, that's going to be a pain :-(

AJ

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Eek! No page breaks. If it's the same length as previous chapters, that's going to be a pain :-(

AJ

Lazeez announced some time ago that he got rid of the automated page breaks.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Lazeez announced some time ago that he got rid of the automated page breaks.

I know. That wouldn't have been my preference.

AJ

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

No page breaks. If it's the same length as previous chapters, that's going to be a pain

I thought the system now remembers where you left off and repositions for you.

Replies:   Keet
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

I thought the system now remembers where you left off and repositions for you.

That's browser functionality.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)
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@Keet

That's browser functionality.

Not completely.

Yes, I implemented it thru the browser, but that's new. The site's code saves the scrolling position in the browser's database and it returns you to the saved position when you come back.

Try it. Go to a story or a chapter, scroll to the middle, then click the hamburger menu and go to the home page, then click the story/chapter again, and the browser will scroll to the saved location.

ETA: This works for normal browsing. If you use private/incognito mode, then the browser will delete the info saved and will fail to scroll when you come back to a story.

Replies:   Keet  Michael Loucks
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Yes, I implemented it thru the browser, but that's new. The site's code saves the scrolling position in the browser's database and it returns you to the saved position when you come back.

Ah, that's something extra, cool. I know the browser can save the scrollbar position but like your solution that doesn't work with private/incognito mode.

Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

ETA: This works for normal browsing. If you use private/incognito mode, then the browser will delete the info saved and will fail to scroll when you come back to a story.

Ditto for Firefox Enhanced Tracking Protection in 'Strict Mode' - even with a site exception for SOL.

Finbar_Saunders ๐Ÿšซ

@fester82

They've organized a street party and I'm informed that there will be dancing in the street

tball4217 ๐Ÿšซ

@fester82

i thought this would be about something humorous in the stories..

like how it repeats every ten chapters,,,, consistently..

Replies:   Remus2
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ
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@tball4217

like how it repeats every ten chapters,,,, consistently..

Its the same formula for Xuanhuan-Wuxia webnovels. Only at first, it was more about the ship getting more powerful with each cycle of "cultivation."

The latter chapters spread that to the MC and support characters. When he went into the full mecha/Manga mode, I stopped reading.

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

The better xuanhuan novels manage to vary things up in their cultivation advancements with well-choreographed shifts in scale and cultivation system. A large number don't, and it's dispiriting to drop a novel after 400 chapters because it's no longer interesting.

I sometimes think the female writers do it better, but I can't prove it.

Replies:   joyR  Remus2  samuelmichaels
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

but I can't prove it.

Of course you can't..!! :)

The guys need their egos.

;)

StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

The guys need their egos.

You forgot the last word of that sentence.

The guys need their egos stroked.

At least according to Billy Squier.

Replies:   joyR
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@StarFleet Carl

Then they should stoke themselvesโ€ฆ

Ohh, they already doโ€ฆ

Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ
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@joyR

It's a sample size problem: the female xuanhuan authors don't get translated nearly as often as male. Of my six favorite xuanhuans, three are by male and three by female authors. That's most of the female-written xuanhuan I've read and a small fraction of male-written.

Of course, historical/reincarnation/do-over romances, which is an even more gender-biased genre, is just as rife with cliches. There's only so many faceslapping scenes you can read in a row before it's time to give up.

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

I sometimes think the female writers do it better, but I can't prove it.

You may be surprised who is and who isn't a female author. Many Chinese female authors take on a male pen name. My wife does translation work for a couple of them.

Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Given chauvinism, I'm not surprised.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

Given chauvinism, I'm not surprised.

An article in my paper claimed it's now very difficult for new male authors to get novels published in the UK, especially if they're white. Allegedly many have switched to writing screenplays, so now a disproportionate number of authors of TV Dramas etc are male.

AJ

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

I'm surprised none have tried a feminine pen-name.

Replies:   awnlee jawking  redthumb
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ
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@Dominions Son

I'm surprised none have tried a feminine pen-name.

That might be enough to fool some readers, but the discrimination is taking place at the agent/publisher level.

AJ

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Just tell the publisher they identify as a woman.

Replies:   Keet
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Just tell the publisher they identify as a woman.

Where is the time when people were chosen based on knowledge, experience, and craftsmanship..., you know, the logical way.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

Where is the time when people were chosen based on knowledge, experience, and craftsmanship..., you know, the logical way.

Maรฑana ;-)

AJ

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

Where is the time when people were chosen based on knowledge, experience, and craftsmanship..., you know, the logical way.

Dead and buried.

JoeBobMack ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

Where is the time when people were chosen based on knowledge, experience, and craftsmanship..., you know, the logical way.

Umm... never? Well, at least not completely.

Some groups, political views, and story lines have always been discriminated against, and therefore some more favored. That favor worked on behalf of white, heterosexual males (or those who presented as such) until rather recently. Now it tends to slant in favor of other directions.

The interesting thing for this group, it seems to me, is the extent to which web publishing has lessened the slant against types of stories, especially for extremely long form stories with a sexual component in the SF/F genre. Some folks are making a living writing in those fields completely outside of the gatekeepers in the publishing industry, a few even outside of the gatekeeping of Amazon. And, although I haven't become aware of any SOL authors supporting their family with their work here, it's clear that there are those working on improving their knowledge, experience, and craftmanship by writing for this market. Others are doing the same through other venues. That seems a step in the right direction. At least, I appreciate the efforts of those who have given me so many hours of enjoyment by publishing their works on SOL!

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

Where is the time when people were chosen based on knowledge, experience, and craftsmanship..., you know, the logical way.

Logic... we don't need no stinking logic...
That from a movie that would give the wokeadilles a heart attack.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Logic... we don't need no stinking logic...
That from a movie that would give the wokeadilles a heart attack.

Given the reference to wokeadilles ( :) ) I would guess you are referring to Blazing Saddles

1. IIRC, the paraphrased line does not originate with Blazing Saddles, it goes back to a serious western film.

2. Laughing too hard can trigger a heart attack, so it's not just the wokeadilles that are vulnerable.

Replies:   Remus2
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

IIRC, the paraphrased line does not originate with Blazing Saddles, it goes back to a serious western film.

"The Treasure of the Sierra Madre." The book from which the movie you mentioned got its name.

Blazing saddles would have been never made it as a movie in this day and time. There is something to offend damn near everyone in it.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Blazing saddles would have been never made it as a movie in this day and time.

Agreed. In today's world, probably most of Mel Brooks' movies couldn't have been made.

redthumb ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

According to Project Gutenberg, L. Frank Baum did.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Of the 11 new novels reviewed in yesterday's paper, 9 had female names as authors, one had a male name and the other just used initials but was probably male.

In the non-fiction reviews, that trend was reversed.

AJ

Replies:   Keet  awnlee jawking
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Of the 11 new novels reviewed in yesterday's paper, 9 had female names as authors, one had a male name and the other just used initials but was probably male.

And just try accusing the publishers on gender discrimination, you'll get skinned alive.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

And just try accusing the publishers on gender discrimination

A publishing insider did exactly that. It's what prompted the newspaper article :-(

AJ

Replies:   Remus2
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Women may have some recourse with western publishers, but the comments regarding chauvinism, was related to Chinese authors. Publishers for them could care less about western sensibilities, and as such, do on a regular basis, ignore and or dump on female authors.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Women may have some recourse with western publishers, but the comments regarding chauvinism, was related to Chinese authors.

It's changing, but I think Chinese women in general are deprecated because of tradition and the one baby policy.

could care less

Oh dear! If Uncle Jack finds out about that!

AJ

Replies:   Remus2
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

It's changing, but I think Chinese women in general are deprecated because of tradition and the one baby policy.

https://thediplomat.com/2021/09/china-bans-sissy-men-from-tv/
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/one-child-policy-leads-to-leftover-women-campaign-in-china/5611496

Between the "leftover women" and "masculinity campaign," I don't see it changing except for the worst.

Replies:   Quasirandom  Not_a_ID
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Unfortunately, I totally agree. I also expect things to get worse for homosexuals as well.

Not_a_ID ๐Ÿšซ
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@Remus2

Be very glad you aren't a young woman in China right now. I can't imagine things are likely to be very pleasant for any of the ones able to have children over the next 20 to 30 years. I halfway expect the Communist Party to start a forced impregnation campaign if they can't get their birth rate to at least replacement level.

Edit to add: I know its been something I'd been halfway joking to myself about Japan possibly doing to address its population decline(pretty sure they've even had some Hentai material venture down that path).

However, I think China would be the one to actually try it. The magic of being a centralized, highly authoritarian government, makes all kinds of things possible that shouldn't be.

Replies:   Dominions Son  Remus2  Remus2
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Not_a_ID

I halfway expect the Communist Party to start a forced impregnation campaign if they can't get their birth rate to at least replacement level.

The one child policy was all about pushing the birth rate below replacement to reduce their over all population.

The gender imbalance results from a cultural preference for sons interacting with the one child policy resulting in the wide scale abortion of female fetuses.

From China, I would expect something more along the lines of prohibiting elective abortions on the basis of gender and prohibiting doctors/nurses from informing expectant patients of the gender of the fetus. This in order to bring the at-birth gender ratio back to normal levels.

Maybe topped off with a bounty for families that produce daughters.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

From China, I would expect something more along the lines of prohibiting elective abortions on the basis of gender

We have that in the UK but it's almost never enforced because we have to respect diversity and the values of other cultures.

AJ

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Not_a_ID

However, I think China would be the one to actually try it. The magic of being a centralized, highly authoritarian government, makes all kinds of things possible that shouldn't be.

They started down that road already with the social pressuring.

Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Not_a_ID

Be very glad you aren't a young woman in China right now. I can't imagine things are likely to be very pleasant for any of the ones able to have children over the next 20 to 30 years. I halfway expect the Communist Party to start a forced impregnation campaign if they can't get their birth rate to at least replacement level.

Their first step was to start bringing in N.Korean women. Conditions there are so bad, they are trying to sneak across their border into China.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Of the 11 new novels reviewed in yesterday's paper, 9 had female names as authors, one had a male name and the other just used initials but was probably male.

Last week's reviews of new novels were better balanced - 8 were by authors with female names, 5 were by authors with male names.

One of the clues in today's General Knowledge Crossword seeks the 1954 winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature (6,9). The world is now far too woke to let someone like that win again :-(

AJ

richardshagrin ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

1954 winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature

"As the Laureate was unable to be present at the Nobel Banquet at the City Hall in Stockholm, December 10, 1954, the speech was read by John M. Cabot, United States Ambassador to Sweden*

"Having no facility for speech-making and no command of oratory nor any domination of rhetoric, I wish to thank the administrators of the generosity of Alfred Nobel for this Prize.

No writer who knows the great writers who did not receive the Prize can accept it other than with humility. There is no need to list these writers. Everyone here may make his own list according to his knowledge and his conscience.

It would be impossible for me to ask the Ambassador of my country to read a speech in which a writer said all of the things which are in his heart. Things may not be immediately discernible in what a man writes, and in this sometimes he is fortunate; but eventually they are quite clear and by these and the degree of alchemy that he possesses he will endure or be forgotten.

Writing, at its best, is a lonely life. Organizations for writers palliate the writer's loneliness but I doubt if they improve his writing. He grows in public stature as he sheds his loneliness and often his work deteriorates. For he does his work alone and if he is a good enough writer he must face eternity, or the lack of it, each day.

For a true writer each book should be a new beginning where he tries again for something that is beyond attainment. He should always try for something that has never been done or that others have tried and failed. Then sometimes, with great luck, he will succeed.

How simple the writing of literature would be if it were only necessary to write in another way what has been well written. It is because we have had such great writers in the past that a writer is driven far out past where he can go, out to where no one can help him.

I have spoken too long for a writer. A writer should write what he has to say and not speak it. Again I thank you."

Prior to the speech, H.S. Nyberg, Member of the Swedish Academy, made the following comment: "Another deep regret is that the winner of this year's Nobel Prize in Literature, Mr. Ernest Hemingway, on account of ill health has to be absent from our celebration. We wish to express our admiration for the eagle eye with which he has observed, and for the accuracy with which he has interpreted the human existence of our turbulent times; also for the admirable restraint with which he has described their naked struggle. The human problems which he has treated are relevant to all of us, living as we do in the confused conditions of modern life; and few authors have exercised such a wide influence on contemporary literature in all countries. It is our sincere hope that he will soon recover health and strength in pursuit of his life-work."

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Last week's reviews of new novels were better balanced - 8 were by authors with female names, 5 were by authors with male names.

This week there were 6 female names, 4 male names and a couple of names that could be either, but based on the protagonists and subject matter are more likely to be female.

AJ

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

You may be surprised who is and who isn't a female author. Many Chinese female authors take on a male pen name. My wife does translation work for a couple of them.

One of the traditionally published dead tree authors I follow is a female/feminine pen-name, but is actually a wife/husband team that writes together.

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awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

a wife/husband team that writes together.

Nicci French is like that.

AJ

samuelmichaels ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

The better xuanhuan novels manage to vary things up in their cultivation advancements with well-choreographed shifts in scale and cultivation system.

Would love to know of your favorite Xianxia or Xianhuan novels. I am running out of the usual suspects.

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Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ
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@samuelmichaels

In no particular order, and we'll see if this forum accepts hanzi titles:

Way of Choices / ๆ‹ฉๅคฉ่ฎฐ - Mao Ni
World of Cultivation / ไฟฎ็œŸไธ–็•Œ - Fang Xiang
I Shall Seal the Heavens / ๆˆ‘ๆฌฒๅฐๅคฉ - Er Gen
Lady Cultivator / ไธ€ไป™้šพๆฑ‚ - Yun Ji
Phoenix Destiny / ๅคฉๅ‘ฝไธบๅ‡ฐ - Yun Ji
Heaven's Official Blessing / ๅคฉๅฎ˜่ต็ฆ - Mo Xiang Tong Xiu
My Disciple Died Yet Again / ๆˆ‘ๅฎถๅพ’ๅผŸๅˆๆŒ‚ไบ† - You Qian
Gourmet of Another World / ๅผ‚ไธ–็•Œ็š„็พŽ้ฃŸๅฎถ - Li Hongtian

Bonus, even though it isn't xianxia/xuanhuan: The Empress's Livestream (not looking up the hanzi for that).

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Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

Thanks, there are some new to me titles there.

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Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Bรบ yรฒng xiรจ.

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Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

ไฝ ๅคชๅฎขๆฐ”ไบ†

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Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ
Updated:

@Remus2

>snort< Nope, just a very rude foreigner who can barely navigate from his hotel to the Shanghai train station without insulting someone.

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Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

>snort< Nope, just a very rude foreigner who can barely navigate from his hotel to the Shanghai train station without insulting someone.

The odd thing is, the Chinese are not exactly polite to begin with. That's more a Japanese thing than a Chinese one.

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Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Yeah, tell me about it. (Queue? What the fuck is a queue? Just shove your way to the front.)

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samuelmichaels ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

Yeah, tell me about it. (Queue? What the fuck is a queue? Just shove your way to the front.)

Works that way in Turkey, too.

Thanks for the titles -- a few of them new to me.

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Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@samuelmichaels

The rudest country I've been in, turned out to be Russia. The most polite was Japan. Turkey was somewhere in the middle.
For the states, it was New Jersey as the worst, and Maine at the best.

Lapi ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Have to agree with you re Japan. great people. Argentina is possibly second, safe and friendly. China hates 'Round eyes' IMHO. Manila and Middle East just as bad. again IMHO. France may be in the same category.
As was Hawaii the times I was there.

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Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ
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@Lapi

Never had a problem in the Philippines, and they are generally polite people. The rest I would agree with you mostly. With France it depends on where in France. Paris and Lyon was flush with jackasses, but the rest of the country was nice in general.
ETA: Can't really comment on Hawaii as I've only ever passed through the airport there.

richardshagrin ๐Ÿšซ

@fester82

Why are the three meals "square"? Are the plates they are served on square? Most plates are round. That's why Pie are square is wrong, cornbread is often square but pie are round, at least the pie plate is round.

"square meal (noun)

Definition of square meal
: a full or complete meal
Inmates receive three square meals a day."

From Merriam-Webster on-line.

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awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@richardshagrin

Why are the three meals "square"?

Since the protagonist has a 'quad', it would have been nice for the story to be about four square meals a day.

Three square meals is anthropocentric and Earth-centric, but the story is mainly about aliens.

AJ

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