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karactr ๐Ÿšซ

I've seen the term "Rache code rules apply" many times. I've always wondered what it meant.

The closest that I can find is a 2010 post on ASSTR by Rachel Ross concerning how she codes her stories. Very all-enclusive and cogent if you understand the basics.

If that post is the source, it makes me miss her writing even more. Her talent, imagination and drive were astounding.

To have someone so young espouse something so universal is impressive.

Replies:   joyR  awnlee jawking
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@karactr

If that post is the source

That specific post may or may not be the source, but it is correct and RR is 'Rache'.

Her talent, imagination and drive were astounding.

Indeed.

LonelyDad ๐Ÿšซ
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Rachel wrote under several other names as well. I don't remember them, but they were listed in one of the blogs around the time of her death.

Edit: I went and checked and found four author names: rache, Rachael Ross, T.S.Severe, Just Plain Jane, and God of Porn.

I think there were others, but not for sure.

Replies:   Dinsdale
Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@LonelyDad

I went and checked and found four author names: rache, Rachael Ross, T.S.Severe, Just Plain Jane, and God of Porn.

That would be five names. Add - as karactr said - Milk_Bunny, and RR. I had no idea about Jais Nereis.
I remember vicious arguments between God-of-Porn and one of Rache or Rachael Ross, probably via Blog entries.

richardshagrin ๐Ÿšซ

there were others

She also wrote 25 reviews as Jais Nereis.

Replies:   Keet
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@richardshagrin

She also wrote 25 reviews as Jais Nereis.

And wrote a few stories under that name.
Rachel Ross Archives - Anarchists Cookbook:

Jais Nereis is proud to present a little collection of stories that show off the so-called "angry" side of Rachael Ross (we call that rache around the office)...Well, some of them do. Like everything else in life, nothing ever goes according to plan and so you might find something here less angry and more humorous that we'd prefer. Sorry about that.

karactr ๐Ÿšซ

Thank you for the confirmation.

It is heartening to know that such a prodigal will be remembered in some way.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@karactr

The closest that I can find is a 2010 post on ASSTR by Rachel Ross concerning how she codes her stories. Very all-enclusive and cogent if you understand the basics.

I'd like to see the Rache code rules posted on SOL but I guess that would violate copyright unless someone could obtain permission from whoever is managing her legacy.

Could you DM me with the link, pretty please.

AJ

Replies:   karactr  karactr
karactr ๐Ÿšซ
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@awnlee jawking

Let's see if I can do this...

https://www.asstr.org/~rache/codes.htm

ETA: I hope that worked. Not a DM, sorry.

Since it was not a story link, I felt safe doing it this way.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@karactr

Thanks.

I guess the link won't hang around for long :(

AJ

karactr ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

I'd like to see the Rache code rules posted on SOL but I guess that would violate copyright unless someone could obtain permission from whoever is managing her legacy.

At its heart, it is just a set of rules pertaining to story classification. It was freely distributed and appears to be widely accepted. I don't see where copyright becomes an issue. Not for a set of guidelines.

That would be like saying guidelines for universal manners or ethics is copyrighted. Can I copyright "God bless you" when people sneeze?

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@karactr

Having swapped e-mails with Rache a few times, I believe sharing her 'Rache code' freely would be consistent with her philosophy. But it is a written work and contains original content therefore it is copyright.

AJ

Replies:   karactr
karactr ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

I envy you, AJ. I never had the honor as she was dead before i even knew of her.

But I still wonder if something that is basically a Blog post can be copyrighted. Even if it can and is, is it too universal and catholic to not just accept it and damn the copyright?

I'm torn. And right now dearly missing Milk Bunny's take on Bible Black and whatever rache had in her perverted heart for VBE.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@karactr

But I still wonder if something that is basically a Blog post can be copyrighted.

Considering how rich professional bloggers can become, I'd be very surprised if they didn't protect their rights zealously, even though most of the content is fake news and has been shown to lower the intelligence of children.

AJ

LonelyDad ๐Ÿšซ

@karactr

I'd like to see the Rache code rules posted on SOL but I guess that would violate copyright unless someone could obtain permission from whoever is managing her legacy.

At its heart, it is just a set of rules pertaining to story classification. It was freely distributed and appears to be widely accepted. I don't see where copyright becomes an issue. Not for a set of guidelines.

That would be like saying guidelines for universal manners or ethics is copyrighted. Can I copyright "God bless you" when people sneeze?

Current copyright law in the US basically states that any creative work published is copyrighted. Whether or not the copyright holder wishes to pursue any infringement is up to the holder. In this case, since there is no monetary gain to be had, there would be no point in pursuing an infringement case.

On the other had, let's take the story 'Winds' as an example, as it is a popular story once posted here. The author has published the story on, I believe Amazon, in the past, so that an infringement has a monetary value. So if H2OWader wished to pursue damages, he has a legal right to do so. Granted, the amount is trivial per incident, but the case can be made for multiple incidents occurring.

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@LonelyDad

US basically states that any creative work published is copyrighted

Does it have to be published? I thought as soon as you wrote it you owned the copyright.

Replies:   LonelyDad  Dominions Son
LonelyDad ๐Ÿšซ
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@Switch Blayde

US basically states that any creative work published is copyrighted

Does it have to be published? I thought as soon as you wrote it you owned the copyright.

Technically, you are correct. If you have created it, it is copyrighted. But if it is not published it can not be infringed upon. In this context I intend published to mean placed into view so that others may see it. This would even include the contents of a personal letter sent to another person. Anything on SOL or its like, an op-ed piece, a school paper/course assignment, would all be considered to have been published.

Replies:   helmut_meukel
helmut_meukel ๐Ÿšซ
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@LonelyDad

But if it is not published it can not be infringed upon.

Not quite true.
Consider this scenario:
I write a story without publishing it. Some time later I've a problem with my computer and the service person snoops through my files, copying all that might probably be of interest for anyone.
If s/he then publishes my unpublished story this would be a copyright infringement, wouldn't it?

HM.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@helmut_meukel

Yes, but it would be hard to win a legal case because of the difficulty of providing conclusive proof.

AJ

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

Does it have to be published?

No it doesn't have to be published. It just has to be fixed in a tangible form (as a matter of law, an electronic file counts for this, as it's outside of your head)

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@LonelyDad

since there is no monetary gain to be had, there would be no point in pursuing an infringement case.

I don't have the link, but a blogger once wrote a blog about the dangers of using copyrighted material. She found a photo and put it on her blog. She was sued and it cost her thousands of dollars even though she wasn't making money off it. Her blog was a warning to others who used something they found just for the fun of it.

Replies:   joyR
joyR ๐Ÿšซ
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@Switch Blayde

I don't have the link, but a blogger once wrote a blog about the dangers of using copyrighted material.

There are a lot of instances of this happening. One such instance is described in detail here.

ETA

A great many of the copyright infringements involve pictures rather than text. Something any author looking for a book cover picture should consider carefully.

Replies:   LonelyDad
LonelyDad ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

A great many of the copyright infringements involve pictures rather than text. Something any author looking for a book cover picture should consider carefully.

As an example, you will note that any of the book covers of Ernest Bywater's books clearly state that they are used with the permission of the copyright holder.

karactr ๐Ÿšซ

I still just wish rache were still with us. The world would be a brighter place.

Can we just close this topic now? I got my answer.

Replies:   Ryan Sylander
Ryan Sylander ๐Ÿšซ

@karactr

I still just wish rache were still with us. The world would be a brighter place.

Hear hear. Her mix of creativity and honesty was amazing, and I miss her as well.

Cheers
RS

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