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How Patient Are You?


I started following the Summer Camp stories by Nick Scipio in either 2002 or 2003, intrigued by a prologue before the first chapter that set up the main mystery in the stories - Who is the Wife (of the MC)?, and Who Died? (somebody important to the MC).
It's now 18 or 19 years later and the summer camp stories, as far as I know, have not concluded. Still not revealed are Who is the Wife and Who Died. Last time I looked, real time (18 or 19 years) is moving faster than story time (not sure - it has covered maybe 10 years, more or less, of the MC's life, from high school to sometime in college).
originally, the author promised the complete story would be told in 3 "books". Now he's working on the fifth book and the first four of those are on SOL. I thought I remembered a promise that he'd eventually post Book 5 on SOL - but I've seen no signs that he will (or won't) do so.
The question: How patient are you for an author to finish the story arc set out from the beginning? Is 18 or 19 years just about right, or should it take 25 years or more?



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Jack MacLean is happy with married life, but it's the Swinging Sixties and he wants more. His wife does too, and they have their eye on her new friend, Beth Hughes. But Jack and Beth's husband will soon be fighting a war in the skies over Vietnam. When they return, everything will change. (A Summer Camp prequel.)

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I lost Interest in the series a long time ago.


He has more of the story up on Patreon or something similar, so you can pay to read it. I would be less vague if I had actually any interest in taking those steps. If you went to his own site you could presumably find it.
I think this has been discussed in the Forum before but can't find exactly where.



How patient are you for an author to finish

If you think the story has enough value to wait then wait. Otherwise, don't.



I find that my interests change over the years. I read the first 3 books of Summer Camp and enjoyed them but I don't think I will read the rest. That is, if my interests don't change again from my current SF focus.
I think time is a major issue for very long running stories because almost everybody experiences changes in their reading tastes. So some readers will drop the story but others might find the same story suddenly more interesting then they did a few years back.
For me Summer Camp has another problem and that is the provided images of the characters in the story. The images totally clash with the far better images I formed in my mind when reading the story and I wish I had never seen them. Even worse, the images don't support the story because they are in no way related to any of the situations in the story.
SpacerX did it right with his excellent drawings that closely depict what he described in the story.
I feel it's good advice to authors that if you are going to provide images of characters to always first choose an image and then describe that image in your story to avoid describing a beautiful woman and then provide a picture that doesn't even come close to pretty.

StarFleet Carl


Summer Camp stories by Nick Scipio

Not only that, but he also had his daily nude pictures, along with WTF Fridays (eyebleach normally needed after viewing).

And it feels like he got lost somewhere along the way. I'm not sure what happened, if real life intruded (as it has a way of doing), and the whole Patreon thing is or isn't panning out for him.

His Picture of the Day site has come to an end after many years, but it was after a series of political rants where he told his followers that if they didn't agree with him politically to go away. So take it for what it is, I guess.

As for patience with authors - it took David Weber 25 years to finally 'retire' Honor Harrington in his latest novel, but she's still in reserve and due to prolong will be around for a long time.

Replies:   richardshagrin  rugby

SOL authors, Kindle books in series, hard copy books - if the author is writing their pet version of the Neverending Story with no ending or resolution in sight, I will lose interest and drop out. Same for authors who think once a month (or longer) is often enough to post a new chapter.


@StarFleet Carl

Honor Harrington

She offered him her honor, and he honored her offer. And so it went all night, on her, off her, on her, off her.

Replies:   StarFleet Carl


The question: How patient are you for an author to finish the story arc set out from the beginning? Is 18 or 19 years just about right, or should it take 25 years or more?

There's a point where a story just fades away if the intervals between updates are too long. Nick's Summer Camp however does stand out a bit because the grammar is really good and he manages to add small suspense arcs and sprinkle in enough humor to keep my interest.

Since my own experience tells me how hard it is to keep up with writing a longer story line, I may be rather forgiving if a story arc takes a while to finish.

Anyhow, what's one decade more for a good read? When I started reading stories "online", I had to request a list of stories from a BBS index one day (or night, since long phone calls were only affordable after midnight), get the list the other day, request the stories the third day and hope that I didn't miscalculate and the requested stories fit into my weekly byte limit and were delivered the day after that. Unless there was an error of some kind when the upstream BBSes talked to each other, in which case it took even longer, or I had re-send my request. So four days between "I want to read a story (chapter)" and actually reading it was quick. If the net had stayed within these limitations, reading Summer Camp would have taken me ages anyhow.

StarFleet Carl


Well, at least with Hamish Alexander, she did...


@StarFleet Carl

His series continues on Patreon. I pay the lowest tier for it and it's a good story. I can't fault somebody for trying to monetize their hobbies and Nick is pretty good at his.

But to each their own. I sit down and read a few chapters at a time of his work then go away for a few weeks and let him write more.

Replies:   PotomacBob


What about the idea that the author could actually finish his one story and go on to another that's just as good? Or is Summer Camp the ONLY story he's capable of writing that holds people's interest and he's milking it for all its worth?

Replies:   rugby


Ultimately it's his call. He's putting stories here *for free*. He doesn't owe us anything at the end of the day.

Replies:   helmut_meukel


Ultimately it's his call. He's putting stories here *for free*. He doesn't owe us anything at the end of the day.

OTOH, I – as a reader here – have no obligation to read his stories.

Every storyteller needs an audience.


Replies:   rugby


Then don't? I'm not sure why you are arguing with me.

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