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Impossible Sized Tits

prcn12
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I wonder why soo many authors write about adolescent & young teen girls with small & petite bodies but with HUGE breasts. I am a visual reader. I can see in my mind the characters as if I am watching a movie.

A 12 year old girl with "D" sized tits would be a bit a bit on rare side I think. I have seen some young girls with nice racks in my time but not "D" size. I know that the letters are the cup sizes & not the total measurement.

Still, it would be refreshing to read a story abt girls with normal bodies. I much prefer smaller breasts compared to those unfortunate teeny boppers who will spend their older years with heavy duty back braces.

Just saying.

Keet

What's even worse is that it often makes little or no difference for the story or character if she had normal breasts or maybe just 'large' for her age.

John Demille

@prcn12

I don't know where you're from, but don't all girls in your spot of the world have E to F tits and all guys have 10" to 14" dicks? What kind of under-endowed place do you come from?

Seriously though, these things are usually in stroke stories, usually designed to get the reader off, they have nothing to do with reality but with a fantasy that can titillate the reader to the max. Just like nobody gets an STD and nobody gets fucked up in the head from sleeping with family.

In my stories, usually I don't describe the characters and leave it to the readers imagination to use a look that they like in their own mind.

Vlad_Inhaler

I knew an 18-year old years ago who had the biggest natural pair I have ever seen, on an otherwise slim body. She was much more than a life-support system for a pair of boobs but being anywhere with her was fraught - wolves came howling.
My job took me to another town a few weeks later and she was only supposed to be there for around 10 months so I have no idea what happened to her.

garymrssn

Many of them probably adhere to the fallacy of "More is better". Unfortunately doubling a cup size in a story doesn't give the kind of feed back doubling the recommended dose of a laxative does in real life.

Wheezer

I've seen 13 yr old girls with D-cup breasts, but they are not common. There was a famous 13 yr. old Junior Gravure Idol with D-cup breasts. One very famous/notorious 14 yr. old with huge natural breasts was Traci Lords.

A 12 yr. old with large breasts would be even more rare, and likely the result of precocious puberty.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@Wheezer

A 12 yr. old with large breasts would be even more rare, and likely the result of precocious puberty.


Obese young girls are likely to have large 'breasts' for their age. I believe I read somewhere that obesity can precipitate early puberty too.

AJ

Uther_Pendragon

@prcn12

What's worse is that I've seen a story (on SOL) where the petite pre-teen had no pubic hair and a large number for her bra size.

The number is the measure in inches of the chest below the breasts.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Remus2
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Everyone has their own preferences. I don't put any thought into what someone else's preferences are. My personal preferences tend to focus on legs and ass, but that's just me. Large chest do little for me when it comes to physical appeal of a woman.

Regarding the OP, it's likely just writing for an audience. My personal preferences have little to do with the preferences of the majority. If that majority didn't like what they are reading, the story wouldn't get very much attention, and likely, it would get very poor reviews.

jimh67

This is just me, but from my experience, the tag "Big Breasts" substantially increases the likelihood that the story will be immature and poorly written. So I don't take a chance. I have more unread books and stories in my library than I will ever read, so that's an easy culling tool.

Friar Dave

@prcn12

Back in the Iron Age when I was still young, the neighbour's daughter who was my age had giant ones at around 12years of age. She grew up to have macro-mastia and eventually had to get them operated on down to a manageable size, multiple times in her life.

Thinking about it now, while growing up there were several girls with overly large sets of mammaries, starting very young. So what you describe wasn't as rare there as it seems to be in the west.

There were early bloomers and late ones, of course the early bloomers got all the attention from us boys. Alas where and when I come from, pre-marital sex is a severe no-no that could get you killed. So nothing ever more than 'accidental' gropes of our objects of lust.

RedCzar

I agree. I find it kind of kills the story for me when 13 year old, in middle school, has Double Ds. I try to avoid cup sizes myself. I learned that lesson. Now I'll usually go with something like "large for her age", without being specific. Better to let the reader decide how big that is.

Replies:   Tw0Cr0ws
Dominions Son

@prcn12

A 12 year old girl with "D" sized tits would be a bit a bit on rare side I think.


Probably more than a bit on the rare side.

On the other hand, you have to understand that cup size is determined by the difference between the over the nipples over bust chest diameter measurement and the under bust chest diameter measurement.

A heavy set woman with a C or even a B cup, could have larger breasts in terms of absolute volume than a skinny woman with a D, DD or E cup.

A D-cup on a 12 year old of average height/weight is likely considerably smaller than you imagine.

If you take a D-cup bust off 30year old woman of average height/weight and put it on a 12 year old of average height/weight it would probably amount to an F cup or larger on the girl.

The other factor is when she started puberty. By twelve, the vast majority (>90%) of people will have at least started puberty, and it can start much earlier, even in the US, girls starting puberty as young as 8 is unusual, but not extremely unusual.

World wide, the record (medically confirmed) for onset of puberty in a girl is under 5. In one of the Central or South American countries, there was a case of a girl giving full term live birth by c-section at the age of 5years 7 months. The doctors recorded that they were shocked to find that her internal reproductive system appeared to be fully developed. It should be noted that one of her uncles went was convicted of raping the girl and sent to prison. Her son lived a normal lifespan and died in the late 1980s.

Replies:   Not_a_ID
Dominions Son

@Uther_Pendragon

where the petite pre-teen had no pubic hair and a large number for her bra size.


A pre-teen with a high band size and low cup size would just mean she was obese.

Replies:   Uther_Pendragon
awnlee jawking

Any tit weighing more than 49g is pure fiction.

"According to Harrap & Quinn's Tits, Nuthatches and Treecreepers (1996), the sultan tit Melanochlora sultanea has a body length of 20.5 cm and a weight of 34-49 g. And according to Madge & Burn's Crows and Jays (1994)*, Pseudopodoces humilis has a body length of 19 cm and a weight of 42-48 g."

https://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2009/09/09/great-tits-murderous-rapacious

AJ

Replies:   Wheezer
Wheezer
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@awnlee jawking


Any tit weighing more than 49g is pure fiction.


There's Tits, and then there's tits. One has feathers. The other has nipples. (one nipple per tit.) If you cannot tell the difference, or understand what we are discussing, it explains a lot of what I've seen in your previous posts.

Replies:   Vlad_Inhaler
Vlad_Inhaler

@Wheezer

You, sir are having a bad hair day.

Replies:   Wheezer
Wheezer
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@Vlad_Inhaler


You, sir are having a bad hair day.


What hair?

This cranky old bastard is feeling especially cranky today.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@Wheezer

This cranky old bastard is feeling especially cranky today.


It's that sort of day, isn't it :(

AJ

Tw0Cr0ws

@RedCzar

When I read exact sizes I wonder if the writer is OCD or just juvenile.
Do they think the readers really care if she is 32C-23-35 or is it their own fixation?

Uther_Pendragon

@Dominions Son


A pre-teen with a high band size and low cup size would just mean she was obese.


She had, IIRC, a D cup. The description said that she was petite although the band size was large.

We aren't talking about a human being; we are talking about stupid stories.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son

@Uther_Pendragon

The description said that she was petite although the band size was large.


A petite 12 year old with a large band size and a D cup would certainly be an absurdity and poor story telling. Mostly because the description is inherently self-contradictory. Most people would read petite as both short and skinny, and on a tween that very much contradicts a large band size.

Authors who insist on using bra sizes to describe female characters should at least make an effort to understand how bra sizes work.

All that said, it's not impossible for a real 12 year old girl to have a D cup bust, but they would still be significantly smaller than 90% of men would imagine them to be if described in terms of the cup size.

Replies:   Wheezer
Wheezer
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@Dominions Son


All that said, it's not impossible for a real 12 year old girl to have a D cup bust, but they would still be significantly smaller than 90% of men would imagine them to be if described in terms of the cup size.


Amazing what you can Google: http://www.newkidscenter.com/Average-Size-of-12-Year-Old-Breasts.html

Emily Ratajkowski had D-cups at age 12! https://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/emily-ratajkowski-i-was-a-12yearold-but-people-looked-at-me-as-a-21yearold-36455728.html

and one more: https://www.bigcuplittlecup.net/think-know-d-cup-looks-like/

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son

@Wheezer

Amazing what you can Google: http://www.newkidscenter.com/Average-Size-of-12-Year-Old-Breasts.html


Yeah, the average is A-B. I said a D wasn't impossible, I never claimed it was normal or common.

Replies:   Wheezer
StarFleet Carl

I think this arguing about bra sizes is small and in no danger of getting out of control. It's a tempest in a D cup ...

Replies:   samuelmichaels
samuelmichaels

@StarFleet Carl

a tempest in a D cup


I think you guys are making mountains of of molehills. (To use up more cliches).

Replies:   Wheezer
Wheezer
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@samuelmichaels


I think you guys are making mountains of of molehills.


It's certainly a titillating conversation...

...with a lot of tit for tat.

Replies:   joyR
joyR

@Wheezer

It's certainly a titillating conversation...


It's good to see you guys are keeping abreast of developments...

Replies:   samuelmichaels
Wheezer

@Dominions Son

DS, I hung a reply on your post out of convenience and it's relevance to the links I gave - not because I disagreed with what you were saying. :)

samuelmichaels

@joyR

It's good to see you guys are keeping abreast of developments...

All of us being bosom buddies here...

Replies:   joyR
joyR

@samuelmichaels

All of us being bosom buddies here...


Ok, which one of you lot is it hiding at the back, tittering..?

Sooner or later you'll get busted... Tata for now...

red61544

@prcn12

A 12 year old girl with "D" sized tits would be a bit a bit on rare side I think.

A girl like that ran for Miss Teen America a few years back. For the talent portion, she sat up straight!

Replies:   awnlee_jawking
awnlee_jawking

@red61544

A girl like that ran for Miss Teen America a few years back. For the talent portion, she sat up straight!


Thank you for that piece of mammorabilia ;)

AJ

Replies:   samuelmichaels
samuelmichaels

@awnlee_jawking

Thank you for that piece of mammorabilia ;)


I am hooting with laughter!

Replies:   Wheezer
Wheezer

@samuelmichaels

I am hooting with laughter!


Don't you mean hootering with laughter?

Replies:   Dominions Son  madnige
Dominions Son

@Wheezer

It's a tale of two titties.

madnige

@Wheezer

Don't you mean hootering with laughter?


I think he made a boob

Keet

I am disappointed with you authors ;) So little usage of all kinds of fun synonyms for breasts, so little imagination and variation.
So here's a little help: Urban Dictionary
And for the male counterpart: OnlineSlangDictionary

drgnmstr

Personally I think anything larger than a C cup is increasingly more grotesque.

Not_a_ID
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@Dominions Son

A D-cup on a 12 year old of average height/weight is likely considerably smaller than you imagine.


I was going to mention that. But then height/weight/age tables seem to slightly disagree.

Seems the one I found in a quick Google Search says the "average" 12 YO girl would be 5ft even(152cm), and have a chest measurement of 30.75"(78cm). (An average 12YO boy is reported with the same height/chest measurement)

So going with 78cm as the "under bust" measurement, a D-cup would be around the 99 to 101cm mark, or about 39 inches. So I'd probably ballpark that as protruding about 4 to 4.5 inches from the chest. (size 36D)

The bra-sizing chart I have shows +21cm is D cup for all chest measurements, so that's a non-starter. But shifting to cup volume, going from a 36D to say a 40D, which would be more typical for an "average sized 16YO" female chest measurement(minus breasts), you go from 710cc(for 36D) to 1000cc(for 40D). 710cc of breast tissue could get you a 40B bra or a 44AA(98 to 102 cm band size). (edit to add: and yes, by implication, that means most of the men on this forum are likely to have more breast tissue than that 12YO)

According to my reference "child sizes chart" average male height @16 is 69.25"(176cm), with a chest of 37"(94cm). female is reported at the same height, but 36.25"(92cm) on their chest measurement.

All that being said, describing characters by cup size is bad writing. Fixating on 12YOs, even "mature seeming ones" is also borderline for other reasons, unless you happen to be a 12YO.

Replies:   Uther_Pendragon
DerAndy

Well, people are writing fantasies and I feel that there's just many people who fantasize about big breasts. Those who don't just have no reason to write about the breast size and due to that omission you don't notice it that much.

I actually have a fetish for very small ones, so I'm a bit sad that this is not catered to more often... ;)

Uther_Pendragon

@Not_a_ID

Fixating on 12YOs, even "mature seeming ones" is also borderline for other reasons, unless you happen to be a 12YO.


Actually, 12YO. boys fantasize about 18YO. (at an approximation) women.

Replies:   PotomacBob
PotomacBob

@Uther_Pendragon


Actually, 12YO. boys fantasize about 18YO. (at an approximation) women.


12-year-old boys fantasize about girls or women of any age when it comes to sex. They're not that different from 80-year-old boys.

Replies:   Not_a_ID
Not_a_ID

@PotomacBob

12-year-old boys fantasize about girls or women of any age when it comes to sex. They're not that different from 80-year-old boys.


Well, not as many 12YO boys will be anywhere nearly as interested (sexually) in 80YO girls as there will be 80YO boys in comparison.

Although, generally speaking, for a pubescent boy, just about anything is fair game when it comes to catching their sexual interest, although some things are bigger outliers than others.

Replies:   Wheezer
Wheezer

@Not_a_ID

Although, generally speaking, for a pubescent boy, just about anything is fair game

^--this...

While boys in the middle of puberty may fantasize about the older teen girls with big tits, when it comes to actively pursuing girls with the intent to get their dicky wet, they'll most likely choose girls younger than themselves. Particularly prepubescent girls who have not yet learned to fend off their advances.

Replies:   karactr
karactr

@Wheezer

Particularly prepubescent girls who have not yet learned to fend off their advances.


I never could find any of those. :(

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