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RNRlifestyle ๐Ÿšซ

I wonder if people prefer stories that have illustrations throughout, rather than just a cover image. I'm planning to do this, but I don't want to change the existing ones uploaded with cover only. I'm thinking of AI-generated but realistic images.

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@RNRlifestyle

I wonder if people prefer stories that have illustrations throughout, rather than just a cover image. I'm planning to do this, but I don't want to change the existing ones uploaded with cover only. I'm thinking of AI-generated but realistic images.

Illustrations have been discussed in other threads. My general impression of the discussions is that most here don't like illustrations.

Personally, I don't mind illustrations as long as they match and don't contradict the story.

LonelyDad ๐Ÿšซ

@RNRlifestyle

A couple of reasons not to:
Illustrations take up storage space - especially color ones. I think Laz would be more comfortable with not having extra space being taken up by illustrations, especially color ones.
Said space considerations would also apply to those of us that like to download our favorite stories.
I'm sure that not all of the readers downloading said images would like the extra storage required.
I suppose Laz could set up some extra parameters to be set by the reader as to whether they would want to consume the extra bandwidth and storage space.

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Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@LonelyDad

I think Laz would be more comfortable with not having extra space being taken up by illustrations, especially color ones.

If you are correct about this, why does he allow illustrations at all?

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awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

If you are correct about this, why does he allow illustrations at all?

Based on the recent change from jpeg to save bandwidth, I think Lazeez is conducting a delicate balancing act and wouldn't appreciate too many authors including too many illustrations.

AJ

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Based on the recent change from jpeg to save bandwidth

The comment I was replying to was about storage space, not bandwidth, two very different things.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@awnlee jawking

Based on the recent change from jpeg to save bandwidth, I think Lazeez is conducting a delicate balancing act and wouldn't appreciate too many authors including too many illustrations.

Actually, it's not about the bandwidth for the servers. Since 2015, the bandwidth available to the servers is practically unlimited.

I now live in an area where the internet is crap, and still metered, etc...

I've long heard from readers about bandwidth, still do. So since my own connection is slow and readers may be on metered connections, I seek to save everybody as much bandwidth as possible.

So the attempt to move to WEBP for the covers was from that motivation since covers are in every story.

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awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Thank you for the clarification, and the consideration for readers with slow internet. Even in the UK, I understand some internet users still barely get faster speeds than dial-up.

AJ

solitude ๐Ÿšซ

@RNRlifestyle

There are settings that allow readers stop images from being downloaded, when reading a story online, but unfortunately the images are included in stories downloaded for offline reading. I have no idea what proportion of readers block images, but as I'm one of them I'm going to assume that the answer is 'most'!

Grant ๐Ÿšซ
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@RNRlifestyle

I wonder if people prefer stories that have illustrations throughout, rather than just a cover image.

Not really.
Having images, just because, i don't see any benefit.

Think of Clive Cussler- he will have a few images of vehicles/boats etc to show what he is writing about, and some maps or plans to show the area the characters are working in to help people understand what's going on. That's useful.

A map of a world, continent, island, country, town etc to help people follow the story, that's worth having IMHO.
But having images of this, that and the other- no thanks.

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@RNRlifestyle

rather than just a cover image.

I'm not even sure what the cover image is for on SOL stories. The purpose of a book cover image is to attract a potential reader to the book. Like on ZBookStore or Amazon. But on SOL, by the time you get to the book cover, you have already selected the story.

I have covers on some of my stories, but only because it's fun to make them. I don't see them affecting my readership.

Replies:   TheDarkKnight
TheDarkKnight ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

I have covers on some of my stories, but only because it's fun to make them. I don't see them affecting my readership.

Agreed, Switch. I have a few cover illustrations, mainly because it's an interesting project, not to attract readers. I have noticed a few times when I've clicked on a story only to be turned off by the cover before I start reading.

Lion13 ๐Ÿšซ
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@RNRlifestyle

A long term paying member and reader's opinion...

A good writer AND storyteller does not need them. They can paint a picture with words. I find the cartoons very distracting. I might start an illustrated story that is rated 8.0 or higher, but have never been able to finish one. The illustrations suddenly cropping up are as jarring as a fire alarm going off behind me. I have avoided all the comic book stories the last 6 months or so. My $0.02.

irvmull ๐Ÿšซ
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@RNRlifestyle

Cover images: many stories - probably the large majority - don't need an image (jpeg or otherwise) since it's just a gray box with some text. Title, author, etc.
That could be done with a small amount of css.
Thereby saving about 55k each.

Illustrations: I haven't yet read a story where the images helped or made the story more interesting. Some, in fact, do the opposite. You get an image in your mind about a character in the story, and then there's an illustration which spoils it.

It's like you're expecting Christy Brinkley, and Rosie O'Donnell shows up.

Bondi Beach ๐Ÿšซ

@RNRlifestyle

Most of the AI-generated images I've seen here and elsewhere are cheesy as hell. That's the strongest argument against using them at all, even for a cover.

~ JBB

Replies:   Switch Blayde
Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@Bondi Beach

Most of the AI-generated images I've seen here and elsewhere are cheesy as hell.

I generate images with AI for book covers. I don't think they're cheesy. For example, here are some:

https://storiesonline.net/n/34244/ranch-life
https://storiesonline.net/s/10581/girls-camp
https://storiesonline.net/n/38889/the-mirror-s-secret

What do you think makes an AI-generated picture cheesy?

Bondi Beach ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

Excessively smooth skin, not entirely life not entirely life like poses, artificiality.

Your three are less cheesy than average, points for that; of the three I think the girls camp cover is the strongest.

FWIW, I did qualify my original comment with "most."

~ JBB

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

I wouldn't necessarily say cheesy but all three images have faults - misshapen ears, five fingers instead of four fingers and a thumb, and a girl looking down at her reflection in a mirror which is looking up at her.

I have to worry when I read about the medical advances that AI is making.

AJ

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ
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@awnlee jawking

a girl looking down at her reflection in a mirror which is looking up at her.

If you read the story you'd know the reflection wasn't a reflection but a spirit living in the mirror.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

If you read the story you'd know the reflection wasn't a reflection but a spirit living in the mirror.

Thank you. That also explains the hair irregularities, eg the spirit's eyebrows, are visible from above but the girl's eyebrows are mostly obscured from below.

AJ

Bondi Beach ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

I have to worry when I read about the medical advances that AI is making.

I understand that in the most recent tests medical AI managed to distinguish in 85 % of cases between a kidney and a lung ...

~ JBB

DBActive ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

Are the characters on the covers under 18? They sure look like they are.
If so, why aren't they in violation of the posting rule that forbids any illustration of characters who are under 18?

The Outsider ๐Ÿšซ

@RNRlifestyle

I used public domain photos for my story covers, then added some text. That's about it...

No illustrations, though...

(My stories are over on StoryRoom...)

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