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As others have said his stories are all very depressing. The MC always suffers severe emotional physical injury or jail.
What bothers me most about the stories is that MM implies that the pain he suffers is his own fault. It's caused by him being unreasonable since the others are so concerned about his unhappiness.
His wife dumps him for, usually, a relative or friend. His kids also cut contact. Despite that, they are described as suffering more than him. They spend hundreds of words describing how they want to reunite with the MC if he would just cooperate with them. He would be happy if he just would forgive and forget.
Then at the end, no matter how badly he was treated, they win.

That was true in this story. His hatred ruined his life. And the betrayal was by caring people who he simply couldn't forgive.

So you're saying it's all his fault and not the people who did him wrong, daughter included, and kept throwing it in his face, because they are "caring". Self righteous all 3 right to the end...MC paid the consequences for his actions, the 3 didn't, they only gave excuses...

Yeah I won't be reading his other stories as well for the same reason lol

ok, we differ in our opinions. agree to disagree :)

Yes, his wife and brother did him wrong, but they didn't want to.

Didn't want to? Seems they did exactly what they wanted and could care less about the consequences to anyone else. The fucked each other during the marriage and then just announced that they were "soulmates." For all their whining none of them, including the daughter reached out to him.
Putting aside that the kid blew off the first weekend with him and nobody even tried to give him a call, she waited three years to try any contact with him. The caring couple never made any effort to encourage a relationship between
him and his daughter and in fact discouraged it.
They lost family relationships because the family saw the truth about them.

All were victims to some degree.

I'll call BS on all being victims as far as the brother and ex-wife go! If they were "victims" it was only of their own guilt, and all they wanted from the mc was for him to "smooth over" their cheating on him with the rest of the family, and to not be held responsible for their cheating! Yeah the mc couldn't get over it, that's his problem and he paid the consequences.

yeah we agreed to disagree...and still do lol

boo hoo hoo and cry me a river for the poor cheaters who fought it for 14 years and suffered yes they should have come clean at the start but the chickenshits didn't only because the family would have come down on them. You make it sound as if they weren't responsible for the actions when they were. I read the story as they only worried about how their cheating would be affect them and gave lip-service to the mc, it was all about them. They got a lot less than what they deserved as far as I'm concerned.

Anyways, friday tomorrow so have a great weekend and God bless you and yours!

You're right. He should have hugged it out with them and joined in the celebration of their love. He should have ignored:
1. That they lied to him for at least 15 years while hiding their affair.
2. That they lied to him for 17 years about the parentage of his daughter and would have continued lying if the daughter hadn't revealed the truth.
3. That they did everything possible to prevent him from having a relationship with the child.
4. That they blamed him for the reasonable reaction of other members of the family to his actions.
Even at the end they blame him for the suicide of his brother.
Again, you're right. He should have celebrated their love. Hell, he probably should have picked up the tab for their wedding reception.

BTW, what 16 or 17 year old girl would want a Lincoln?

After reading the story in question just to be sure, I'm having a little trouble following your logic.

The whole thing reads to me like a guide on how to justify screwing up someone else's life and still think you're not the problem.

It's not the MC's hate that caused him to resent his brother, it was the fact that the brother stole MC's wife and daughter, because offering to see your own child for all of 20% of the year is NOT a generous gift.

It's not the MC's hate that caused the rift between him and his daughter, it was the fact that he loved his child, even though she ignored him, taking away what little time he was awarded with her.

And it's not the MC's hate that caused the rift between the cheaters and the rest of the family... it was their cheating.

But somehow, some way, you see this character who got faulted every step of the way... and still claim it's his own fault, simply because he wouldn't roll over, wish the cheaters a happy life, and leave to suffer in silence.

I think the thing where your opinion on the story seems to differ from everyone else's (and I say "everyone" else's because the rating seems not to align with your 10/10 vote), is that you're trying to argue logic vs. emotions.

You are blaming the man for acting emotional instead of logical while dealing with the fact that his marriage went up in flames, with no apparent warning signs, and his daughter being taken from him (there is no other way to put it, because, as I already said, being unable to see your child for 80% out of the year, just for the child to then ghost her father when the first meeting in a month is about to happen, is not satisfying if you actually care for the child).

A sit-down would have made absolutely no difference here. And the way the story is droning on about how to treat the daughter to get her on the cheaters' side, how to treat the family to minimize the damage, the constant psychoanalyses of the MC's expected behavior, and how everything is the MC's fault RIGHT AFTER admitting that he is absolutely justified in his behavior, just makes your opinion even weirder.

Let me make this clear: You are defending the cheaters' emotional decision to follow their love, but condemn the MC's emotional state when learning about their betrayal. It makes no sense to me.

The MC isn't somehow obligated to wish the cheaters a happy life. And if you think otherwise, I'd love to hear why. Preferably in terms that don't boil down to "he'll be happier that way", because that's a cliché that seldomly holds true in the real world.

He never heard the why. Only that they cheated on him. Now could he understand the why?

...what's the difference!? I mean, "Hey, I'm mad you cheated on me, with my brother of all people, but I guess I should hold my emotions in check until I gave you a chance to explain yourselves. After all, maybe you had a good reason for it that somehow, some way, miraculously makes me not hurt over the fact that the two people I love the most in the world set me up to feel the worst emotional pain I ever experienced!".

It's... I mean... No. Just... no. That's not something you can ask of someone. How is that supposed to work? And, don't forget, by your own admission, their reason for it was shit! Even the cheaters in the story themselves knew full well that it would only get SO much worse for the MC once he learns the full truth. They have no excuse. Yes, in their own little minds, they have reasons for doing what they did, but no excuse for making one bad decision after the other.

You still claim that it's somehow MC's own fault, when even in the story every single character agrees that it's not. I find his reaction to be very human, contrary to the cheaters, who seem to be a little too analytical in their expressions and calculating in their approach to NOT seem like sociopaths.