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Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

I wrote that a girl in class was fawning over her teacher. I meant that she was infatuated with him and looking at him dreamy-eyed.

But when I looked it up, I found out that's not what fawning means. This is the definition: "to praise someone too much and give them a lot of attention that is not sincere, in order to get a positive reaction" and "Fawning is perhaps best understood as 'people-pleasing.' According to Walker, who coined the term 'fawn' as it relates to trauma, people with the fawn response are so accommodating of others' needs that they often find themselves in codependent relationships."

So "fawn" is actually a negative term where the person doing it is after something. Does anyone else think "fawning over" is what I thought?

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

I would have though that "fawning over" was something close to the definition you found, but I would not have understood it as necessarily implying insincerity.

For "infatuated with him and looking at him dreamy-eyed" the word you want is swooning.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/swoon

Definition 1B: to become enraptured

Replies:   Switch Blayde
Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

the word you want is swooning.

Great.

Works good especially because it's 1956. I had "smitten with" and "dreamy-eyed" but "swooning is better.

Thanks.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

Does anyone else think "fawning over" is what I thought?

Not quite. I understand 'fawning' to involve interaction, whereas dreamy-eyed looks might be purely unidirectional, with the target possibly being oblivious.

I don't know where 'not sincere' comes from. IMO 'fawning' suggests more than is customary and can be negative but doesn't by itself imply insincerity. Of the top ten google entries, only one, from the Cambridge Dictionary, mentions insincerity.

AJ

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Fawning also doesn't imply a sexual/romantic infatuation/attraction.

Here is what Mirriam Webster has to say:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fawning

seeking or used to seek approval or favor by means of flattery

โ€ฆ they are excellent emblems of fawning yet fickle fandom โ€ฆโ€” Thomas Boswell

He's sitting in a shaded pavillion, surrounded by a dozen fawning politicians โ€ฆโ€” Barbara Crossette

I was astonished that Frost could've read the poem as anything but an act of fawning servility.โ€” Tobias Wolff

"Seeking or used to seek approval or favor by means of flattery" could be read as implying something less than complete sincerity.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

"Seeking or used to seek approval or favor by means of flattery" could be read as implying something less than complete sincerity.

I don't believe 'flattery' is a necessary part of the definition. Keeping your boss topped up with fresh coffee when it's not in your job description counts as fawning but there's no flattery involved.

AJ

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

I don't believe 'flattery' is a necessary part of the definition.

Take it up with Mirriam Webster.

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Keeping your boss topped up with fresh coffee when it's not in your job description counts as fawning but there's no flattery involved.

There's also a dose of insincerity involved in your coffee example.

Do you really want to keep your boss caffeinated?

Me, I'd bring him decaf and spike it with valium.

sunseeker ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

I think of "fawning" as being overly attentive and/or the over use of flattery on one persons part to another person...

SS

Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

If you're not sure you got the right word there's a little trick to get to the right one: search for synonyms. In this case that search would have immediately pointed out you got the wrong word for your what you wanted. It didn't point at the correct word 'swooning' but often such a search does.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

If it's done at a distance and the recipient may well be unaware, how about 'mooning over' or synonyms thereof?

AJ

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

If you're not sure you got the right word there's a little trick to get to the right one: search for synonyms.

That's what I did and how I discovered it was the wrong word (I got synonyms like "flattering" and even "slimy"). So I then googled the definition and was surprised to find the real meaning.

Reluctant_Sir ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

Unlike all these geniuses, I thought it meant what you believed, and I would have been wrong as well.

Guess that makes us a minority of two.

Replies:   Keet
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Reluctant_Sir

Guess that makes us a minority of two.

Make that three :)
I didn't know until I read it here and looked it up.

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