I see some No Sex with various sexual categories. I usually ignore stories labeled No sex (and minimal sex) as I am generally here for sex stories.
However, when doing category searches, I sometimes get stories labeled "No Sex" For example, I see Becoming Kay by Alan C Zumwalt and Life Can Get Better by Angus. Just two examples
I take that description literally. Should I?
I also sometimes see Minimal Sex stories with many explicit categories, which also strikes me as odd.
I take that description literally. Should I?
Yes, as there is supposed to be no descriptions of sexual activity in stories labelled 'No Sex.' However, some of the story categories can be applied to even the 'No Sex' stories and some authors do that when the activities refer to important events that happen off screen.
Just checked and some of the categories are not available to the author to check with a 'no sex' story. However, some of those available are what many would associate with sex stories
Just checked and some of the categories are not available to the author to check with a 'no sex' story.
Missing codes for 'No sex' are:
Level of Consent: Coercion, Consensual, Drunk/drugged, Lolita, NonConsensual, Pedophilia, Reluctant;
Sexual Orientations: Shemale;
Story Types: Zoophilia;
Couples: Sharing, Slut Wife, Wife Watching;
Incest: all codes removed;
BDSM: Light Bond, Rough, Snuff,
Groups: all codes removed;
Sexual Activities: all codes removed;
Fetishes: all codes removed;
Other: Indian Erotica, Novel-Pocketbook, Porn Theatre,
Just checked and some of the categories are not available to the author to check with a 'no sex' story. However, some of those available are what many would associate with sex stories
Typically, the 'sex-specific' codes are relegated to either 'squick', or the more stereotypically racial stereotypes (i.e. WW & BBM, Asian, etc.).
There's also a crossover with the protagonists sex (M, MF, MFFFFFFFFFF!), but that's fairly easy to apply to either type of story, though technically it IS a sexual classification.
However, the story-type categories are typically plot-based, and apply only to specific story types (i.e. sci-fi, psychic, fantasy, etc.).
For example, I see Becoming Kay by Alan C Zumwalt and Life Can Get Better by Angus.
Not having read these two stories, I checked out the story codes listed.
In "Becoming Kay," the "bisexual" code could simply indicate a character's sexual orientation. There doesn't have to be any sex in the story. I hope the orientation is important to the story for it to be listed, however. As to the other codes, there doesn't have to be sex involved. For example, BDSM can be inflicting pain without any sex.
In "Life Can Get Better," people can be running around nude without having sex. And just because someone has a harem, it doesn't mean the story shows any sex with the members of the harem. For example, in the Yul Brynner and Deborah Kerr movie "The King and I," the king has many wives and a slew of children. So he has a harem. The movie is rated G.
To solve your problem, when you do a Category Search check the sex content boxes you're interested in. The default is "Any." Simply check "Some Sex," Much Sex," and "Stroke Story" or any combination. Just don't check the "no sex" or "minimal sex."
BDSM can be inflicting pain without any sex.
I can't agree with this.
Sadism is inflicting pain on another for one's own sexual pleasure.
Even if there is no penetration or even skin to skin contact, BDSM is sex.
Even if there is no penetration or even skin to skin contact, BDSM is sex.
In a sex story. But in a no sex story, why is the author listing BDSM? Maybe it's all about control and power and dominance/submission and humiliation.
Just saying.
In a sex story. But in a no sex story, why is the author listing BDSM? Maybe it's all about control and power and dominance/submission and humiliation.
If it's all about control and power and dominance/submission and humiliation without the element of sexual gratification, it's not BDSM, it's just abuse.
Just saying.
it's not BDSM, it's just abuse.
Not if both parties enjoy it.
But I'm not into BDSM so know very little about it.
Not if both parties enjoy it.
Still not BDSM if there is no sexual component to their enjoyment.
But I'm not into BDSM so know very little about it.
Me too, but having discussed it with my brother and his friends, I became VERY familiar with the mystical nature of the practice, which is why I use the 'play-acting' label for most who only toy with the practice.
But then, my brother frequently broke stereotypes every change he got.
Sadism is inflicting pain on another for one's own sexual pleasure.
Even if there is no penetration or even skin to skin contact, BDSM is sex.
Sorry, but I disagree. You've never heard of the ancient monks, who in order to become closer to God, would literally whip themselves as they walked down the street.
My brother, who was the grand marshal of the NYC Gay Pride Parade one year and a regular participant, went to an S&M Summer Camp, where he'd shock everyone there, because as a skinny little thing, whenever he was lashed, he'd break character and giggle hysterically. The regular 'butch' guys were afraid to terrified of him.
He regularly expressed the same sentiment. He first got into BDSM, not for the sex, but because it allowed him to feel 'connected to the universe', without having to pop pills. But, like most of the BDSM crowd, if you've never experienced that level of BDSM, you'll never comprehend what BDSM is really about, as you're just role playing (i.e. playing the expected role, rather than actually believing in the lifestyle).
Sorry, but I disagree. You've never heard of the ancient monks, who in order to become closer to God, would literally whip themselves as they walked down the street.
Yes I have, and no, their self-flagellation was not masochism and not in any way BDSM related.
I would think a fetish might be important information in a story in which there was no depiction of actual sex.
I'm often at a loss how to code for sex. It seems wrong to code No Sex for a story in which sex is a driving force even if no actual sex occurs within the story.
I'm often at a loss how to code for sex. It seems wrong to code No Sex for a story in which sex is a driving force even if no actual sex occurs within the story.
When I wrote a Fantasy about runaway preteens, I skipped any description of any sex acts, but still included their discussions concerning how it impacted them. It's not that difficult to write a no-sex sex story, you just can't write a no-sex stroke story. Nowadays, I tend to avoid a majority of the SOL story codes. Often it's easier avoiding the trigger words, since they mostly attract those looking for kink , not actual stories. Experience authors don't need those crutches.
I like many, still enjoy the occasional stroke story, as that's what brings everyone to SOL, but it's the serious stories that keeps readers here, and they're decidedly few and far between.
But no, I never coded Inc. for what the kids parents did to them, as it was ultimately a minor part of who they were.
That's what I started doing, I was just surprised. Especially since a few of the descriptions sounded like they would be sexual. Just curious. Not a complaint.
a few of the descriptions sounded like they would be sexual.
I think of the story codes as codes for sex stories so all of them sound sexual to me. LOL
I see some No Sex with various sexual categories. I usually ignore stories labeled No sex (and minimal sex) as I am generally here for sex stories.
However, when doing category searches, I sometimes get stories labeled "No Sex" For example, I see Becoming Kay by Alan C Zumwalt and Life Can Get Better by Angus. Just two examples
I take that description literally. Should I?
I also sometimes see Minimal Sex stories with many explicit categories, which also strikes me as odd.
It can also be in many cases simply the position of the specific author.
Also, some story codes might be simply inferred and not specifically shown. Such as maybe seeing a character go to a bedroom with another girl and the narrator hearing obvious sexual sounds from the room. "lesbian" or "bisexual" could easily apply, even though nothing explicit is ever written about the encounter.
For me, I tend to classify my own stories in regards to the sex-story ratio. If the story is little more than an excuse to string together one or more sex scenes, then it will rank much higher than if I am writing an actual character and plot driven story, that only has sex sprinkled through it for more realism and a personal touch.
And that sex may be quite graphic, and take up large sections of text. But overall, the sex is less important that the story I am telling.
I would say try tracking what each individual author writes, and judge from that how the classification works for their works. I have seen some listed as "stroke" that had only a single inferred scene. I have also seen "minimal sex" that had only one scene, but it was very descriptive and took up a quarter of the text.