Like it or love it, think it's implausible, really doesn't matter. The NIS genre is a legitimate genre of stories.
It seems strange we have no code specifically for NIS. I really think we should.
What does everybody else think?
Like it or love it, think it's implausible, really doesn't matter. The NIS genre is a legitimate genre of stories.
It seems strange we have no code specifically for NIS. I really think we should.
What does everybody else think?
It's already a universe. There are codes for things like school, nudism, exhibitionism, public sex, etc. etc. NiS is a universe, not a genre per se. It would just add a code that combines already existing codes.
Except this would allow people to search on the code.
We have categories like BTB and RAAC - which are pretty specific. I think NIS is more than just a "Universe" of stories and they definitely aren't all attached to it.
NIS has become a category to me - because school, nudism, and exhibitionism are not exclusive to NIS at all. Even when combined.
In fact, those codes are pretty common in all of my stories and only a few are NIS.
Readers don't have to search for the code, they can just go to the universe. There are currently 170 stories in the NiS universe. Most readers will get bored with the specific setting before they get halfway through them.
ETA. You know what would be better? If the category search could be limited to a specific universe. Currently you can exclude series and universes (with premium) but you can't limit the search to a specific series or universe. There are a few very large universes for which this could be very handy (Damsels in Distress, NiS, The Swarm Cycle, etc.).
ETA. You know what would be better? If the category search could be limited to a specific universe.
I have made a feature request for that before. There are several universes large enough to justify it. Swarm Cycle is another one.
Except this would allow people to search on the code.
If the people aren't attaching NIS stories to the universe, what makes you think they'll apply a NIS code to the story?
I agree with Keet, it adds nothing that doesn't already exist. Using the codes on school and nudism should find all such stories if they've been properly coded.
What makes me think that is that the prompt to create a story offers you story codes. It does not however offer you universes. You have to do that later.I don't think every author is familiar with how to do that either.
I suspect I could ask if ice cream is delicious and most people on the forum would tell me that it's not Just to be contrary. I don't see what it would hurt to have the code but okay.
I do like the idea of being able to search within a universe. That makes a lot of sense too
It does not however offer you universes.
there is a point in the submission wizard process where it asks you if you want to select a universe or series. The process is
Author / Editor page - - Post & Repost - - Select Pen name (if you have more than one available) - - Type of Submission (submit New Story for this case) -- Story Title -- Description - - Progress status -- sexual content -- story genre -- Categories (codes) --
The next page is where you usually attach files or paste text, but there are 3 rarely used options of - - Series / Universe - - Story End-note - - Moderator Notes - - you can select those pages to include what you want. If you select the Series / Universe you get a dropdown box which lists the ones you have access to, that is your own series / universes then all of the public ones which includes the NIS universe.
If you wanted to ask Lazeez to include NIS as a Genre, that would be a more viable option than as a category code.
It does not however offer you universes.
You are incorrect. The story posting wizard kind of skips over it, but if you are paying attention, the option to select a universe is there when you post a story.
Note: you will only see universes that are open, that you have been added to by the owner of the universe or that you yourself have created.
When going through the story posting wizard, once you get to adding the story text, if you look you will see that there are three options the wizard skipped over.
Series/Universe
Story End Notes
Moderator Notes
You can go back and edit these before submitting.
Why not ask Lazeez to add codes for everything? Every special interest group?Have a separate code for NIS stories not added to the NIS Universe, another for Swarm stories that are not accepted into the Swarm Universe. Another code to differentiate between "Burn the Bitch" and "Burn the Bastard" stories. Hell, why not an additional couple of Bestiality codes to separate Horses, Dogs and 'other' animals.
Of course at some point there will be a special interest group urging Lazeez to simplify the codes...
Some authors don't code correctly, some readers are unable or unwilling to use the search options to find uncoded or sparsely coded stories.
Some readers enjoy "the thrill of the hunt" and the satisfaction of finding elusive stories, why ruin their pleasure by spoon-feeding them with so many codes that anything can be found, IF a reader is prepared to fight through a plethora of codes added just to please every last special interest group as well as those added to panda to every reader too lazy to learn the search options.
How about adding a code for uncoded stories?
another for Swarm stories that are not accepted into the Swarm Universe
On a serious note, the latest aroslav is in the 'Swarm Cycle Universe' but the story description says it's 'non-canon'. Is there a case for 'non-canon' to be a tag in some form?
AJ
That was a trick question. Obviously there is a case. The issue is how strong.
Readers have asked about non-canon swarm cycle stories here. Allowing them in the universe with a non-canon tag might be a useful way of collating them. It could work for DiD and NiS and other popular universes too.
AJ
On a serious note, the latest aroslav is in the 'Swarm Cycle Universe' but the story description says it's 'non-canon'. Is there a case for 'non-canon' to be a tag in some form?
Ok. Serious face.
The reason I replied "no" is as follows;
1. You are suggesting a 'non-canon' tag that is linked to a Universe. See the issue? Either you have a global 'non-cannon' tag and have to reference the specific Universe, or you need non-canon tags for every individual Universe.
2. Not all Universes are open to all, by granting a 'non-canon' status you are effectively creating a back door way for an author to post to restricted or private Universes. Or simply ride on the Universe author(s) coat-tails.
3. If you start a 'canon' v 'non-cannon' discussion, the gun whores are going to post all over it. (Ok, so I made that up, but it's still possible.)
:)
You are suggesting a 'non-canon' tag that is linked to a Universe. See the issue? Either you have a global 'non-cannon' tag and have to reference the specific Universe, or you need non-canon tags for every individual Universe.
That's one of the reasons I asked the question. I understand little about universes. Can a story be in more than one universe?
Not all Universes are open to all, by granting a 'non-canon' status you are effectively creating a back door way for an author to post to restricted or private Universes. Or simply ride on the Universe author(s) coat-tails.
Yes, that would be a big problem. I don't think an author should be able to violate the universe owner's privacy constraints, even if they're prepared to accept their story is non-canon.
AJ
Yes, that would be a big problem. I don't think an author should be able to violate the universe owner's privacy constraints, even if they're prepared to accept their story is non-canon.
The Swarm Cycle universe is restricted access. If someone posted a "non-cannon" story to the universe it was with the originator's permission.
Theoretically, the story posting wizard could be modified to require the selection of a universe if you select the non-cannon tag. This should not be read as endorsing the idea of a non-cannon tag
Theoretically, the story posting wizard could be modified to require the selection of a universe if you select the non-cannon tag.
There might be a role for it in fanfic stories eg a story in which all of Voldemort's personas simultaneously gangbang Hermione.
This should not be read as endorsing the idea of a non-cannon tag
I have to admit the justification is weak, but I also think Eddie Davidson has a point - there does seem to be an tendency for forum posters to nix new ideas before they've been fully thought through.
AJ
I have to admit the justification is weak, but I also think Eddie Davidson has a point - there does seem to be an tendency for forum posters to nix new ideas before they've been fully thought through.
I was the first to nix it but with legitimate reasons. Eddy wants the code for searching which is totally unnecessary because there is already a universe for it. There are very few stories with the exact same concept outside of that universe. There are already several other codes that can produce the required search result but not limited to the NiS universe. It's not nixing the idea, it's presenting a way to get a similar search result using the existing codes.
Can a story be in more than one universe?
The story posting wizard only allows one to be selected.
'non-canon'
Some Artillery is "non-cannon". Rocket artillery is discussed by Wikipedia. Missile artillery is used for anti-aircraft and in some cases anti-ballistic missile fire. Nike-Ajax and Nike-Hercules anti-aircraft missiles, and Nike-Zeus, intended to defend against ballistic missiles.
Some Artillery is "non-cannon". Rocket artillery is discussed by Wikipedia. Missile artillery is used for anti-aircraft and in some cases anti-ballistic missile fire. Nike-Ajax and Nike-Hercules anti-aircraft missiles, and Nike-Zeus, intended to defend against ballistic missiles.
In most cases the initiation command is "fire" but for the Nike products, the command is, "just do it".
:)
Hell, why not an additional couple of Bestiality codes to separate Horses, Dogs and 'other' animals.
Not sure I would necessarily support species specific tags on the animal side, but it might be niece to have tags to distinguish:
(H=Human, A=animal, M=male, F=female)
MH/MA
MH/FA
FH/MA
FH/FA
I'm trying to resist the urge to ask if your niece NEEDS those tags
Doh! typo, was supposed to be nice. :)
I'm trying to resist the urge to ask if your niece NEEDS those tags.
P.S. Next time don't bother resisting. I thought it was funny.
Hell, why not an additional couple of Bestiality codes to separate Horses, Dogs and 'other' animals.
Don't forget inanimate objects. My first wife was one of those!
Someone requested something. If you disagree, simply disagree. Berating someone will only keep others from contributing.
Eddie Davidson 07/04/2021, 13:23:13
@Switch Blayde
I was the one requesting and I didn't berate anybody
Note this bug report.
I was the one requesting and I didn't berate anybody
I thought they were berating you.
I replied to the topic, not you. But the system now puts the OP's name in the reply. There's actually another thread that addresses that confusion.
Thanks. I don't feel we need to berate each other at all. It's okay to have healthy disagreements. That's what I saw here but it can be frustrating.
I really don't know about the other genres that were brought up. All I know is that NIS is now a type of story. Just like BDSM is a genre and it's also a tag
If the other genres like the swarm series fit that bill then I'm all for it too. Even though I don't read that series.
I really don't know about the other genres that were brought up. All I know is that NIS is now a type of story. Just like BDSM is a genre and it's also a tag
NIS is basically a collection of stories inspired by a single story. Thus the stories form a Universe.
NIS isn't a type as such, nor is it a tag.
NIS stories vary in the tags applied because they address various subjects. The same applies to any other Universe, none are of themselves a single tag.
BDSM is a tag, albeit one that is a 'catch all' for a multitude of acts/practises. A great many stories have been inspired by "The Story of O", but again, that story isn't a tag. But those stories could be included in a "Story of O" Universe.
QED
All I know is that NIS is now a type of story.
As far as I can tell, it's not recognised by TVTropes.
AJ