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How far is too far?

Switch Blayde 🚫
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Hollywood outlines dead bodies for effect even though real life cops don't. I don't have a problem with that. However…

I watched an episode of "The Good Doctor" last week where a patient was a recovering drug addict and needed painful surgery on her leg/knee. She had the surgery fully awake because she didn't want to relapse and ruin her family. So you saw them hammering nails into her while she screamed in agony.

I asked a friend of mine yesterday (he was a neurologist and taught medicine) why they couldn't put her under with anesthesia. He said not only could they have done that (it's not an opioid), but they would have, and probably would have given her a spinal tap.

So did Hollywood go too far for effect? How far is too far?

Replies: Remus2 StarFleet Carl

Remus2 🚫
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@Switch Blayde

That's definitely too far. The shock of it could have killed her.

Addenda:
I've never seen the show before. If it was reality TV, see the above answer. If it was idiothood special effects, it's still too far. Imagine being someone who needed that surgery watching that? Would you then line up to do the same, or pass on the surgery?

Replies: Vincent Berg

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@Remus2

I've never seen the show before.

Don't bother. The show's entire premise is insulting, as NO ONE on the show's entire staff ever bothered to learn the slightest thing about either autism or Asperger's (hint: they're too different things, though the lead character constantly displays the mannerisms and behaviors of both).

His discomfort with social scenes is a crude stab at establishing a well-meaning anti-hero, with NO basis in reality whatsoever. For those of us with Asperger's, it's like watching a documentary about Obama where they use the N-word every other sentence!

P.S. The show's about someone with Asperger's and autism working as a new doctor in a prestigious hospital, saving the hospital from itself by being an utter and complete moron!

awnlee jawking 🚫

According to Hollywood, all cars in America are fitted with an amazing safety feature. They emit a loud squealing sound whenever they make a turn or go faster than 20mph in a built-up area. Presumably it's to alert cellphone zombies to potential danger.

AJ

Replies: Pixy

Pixy 🚫

@awnlee jawking

According to Hollywood, all cars in America are fitted with an amazing safety feature. They emit a loud squealing sound whenever they make a turn or go faster than 20mph

They are also fitted (as standard) with twelve speed manual gearboxes that are also, some times, visually disguised as automatics. And the roads are straight, with no need to use that wheely thing they rest their hands on...

Replies: Dominions Son

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@Pixy

And the roads are straight, with no need to use that wheely thing they rest their hands on...

It's not straight roads. In Hollywood, cars have been self driving since the 50's.

Replies: Pixy

Pixy 🚫

@Dominions Son

self driving since the 50's.

That's just a term for those that can't spell chauffeur... LOL

Replies: richardshagrin

richardshagrin 🚫

@Pixy

chauffeur.

More information you don't need from an online search:

"The literal meaning of the French noun chauffeur (from the verb chauffer, meaning "to heat") is "one that heats." ... Incidentally, the French word chauffeur derives from the same Anglo-French word that gave English speakers the verb chafe, and ultimately can be traced back to the Latin verb calēre ("to be warm")."

So the chauffeur drives a hot car.

Replies: madnige awnlee jawking

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@richardshagrin

So the chauffeur drives a hot car.

Like Aziraphale's Bently in Good Omens?

-- or drives round a hot woman (music video)

Replies: StarFleet Carl

StarFleet Carl 🚫

@madnige

Like Aziraphale's Bently in Good Omens?

Literally, when he went through the ring around London ...

awnlee jawking 🚫

@richardshagrin

The literal meaning of the French noun chauffeur (from the verb chauffer, meaning "to heat") is "one that heats."

The French actually used it to mean 'stoker', from the age of steam trains. Hence the famous French author Bram Chauffeur.

AJ

StarFleet Carl 🚫

@Switch Blayde

How far is too far?

When I was young (about 12, IIRC), I ended up with a large bruise above one knee. Instead of healing like normal, the blood pooled in the fatty tissue. Our family doctor (welcome to the old days of medicine, with house calls and such), did the incision and removed everything under local - with me sitting up watching, and at one point, helping hold forceps so he could get more out. My Dad got sick while he was in the room, but I thought it was rather cool.

As for Hollyweird, they violate all sorts of rules, which unfortunately, the great unwashed masses seem to think then makes it okay. Hey, I saw it on TV, so it must be okay.

Replies: Switch Blayde PotomacBob

Switch Blayde 🚫

@StarFleet Carl

As for Hollyweird, they violate all sorts of rules, which unfortunately, the great unwashed masses seem to think then makes it okay.

The point is, some of them are okay. I outlined a dead body in a story. But this was just too over-the-top for me.

Replies: Dominions Son

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@Switch Blayde

The point is, some of them are okay. I outlined a dead body in a story.

I found this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalk_outline

While chalk outlines were occasionally used in the past, they often were drawn by the police for press photographers, not for investigative purposes. It allowed the press to take a picture and represent the scene without the gruesomeness of a body.

PotomacBob 🚫

@StarFleet Carl

As for Hollyweird, they violate all sorts of rules, which unfortunately, the great unwashed masses seem to think then makes it okay.

I'm sure glad no authors on SOL would ever violate such rules.

Replies: richardshagrin

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@PotomacBob

I'm sure glad no authors on SOL would ever violate such rules.

Never? Well almost never. Maybe a few times. Not often. Unless the story needed it.

Replies: The Outsider

The Outsider 🚫
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@richardshagrin

Never? Well almost never. Maybe a few times. Not often. Unless the story needed it.

Sounds like that scene from Who Framed Roger Rabbit:

Eddie Valiant: You mean you could've taken your hand out of that cuff at any time?
Roger Rabbit: No, not at any time, only when it was funny.

The Outsider 🚫

Austin-Travis County EMS' medical control folks tweeted out that no one in their jurisdiction is ever authorized to do what 9-1-1: Lone Star EMS crews are doing on TV, so...

As a paramedic, I stay far away from medical dramas of any sort. Scrubs and Sirens were far more tolerable. There hasn't been a decent dramatic EMS show since Emergency, and Facebook EMS humor pages are overflowing with screen captures from dramatic hospital TV shows with ridiculous equipment errors...

ystokes 🚫

Back when I was a Background Actor (against SAG rules to call us Extras let alone calling us walking props) I would see castings calls and laugh at some of the casting requirements.

No red,white or black cars.
Non-union background (making min. wage) with high end cars willing to make $35.
Women with no breast implants.
Hardcore bikers with Harleys under 30.
18 to look younger.

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