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Italics: Love 'em or Hate 'em?

Vincent Berg 🚫

Like most struggling authors, I've wrestled with overusing formatting like bold and italics in stories (I now limit myself to italics only, mostly to denote how the text and dialogue is delivered), but I've noted that, almost without exception, most mainstream published authors don't use them at all!

So, the question for everyone, what do YOU use italics, bolding and even all caps or twenty straight exclamation marks for. Let's hear your justification, and then we can argue over which are the most accepted usages, and which seem needlessly extravagant.

As usual, since I led, I'll go first.

As I said, I started out all kinds of usages, and even today, I'll often leave centered, bolder place holders for unfinished chapter sections (which I always remove). But mainly, since both I and my characters have a particular style of speech, I use italics to highlight which words in a sentence are emphasized, highlighting the emphasis in spoken or the narrator's speech. I've learned that even this is largely frowned upon, but still think it aids in my readers understanding of the storyβ€”especially as my characters often use somewhat coded terminology, or aliens use different speaking styles than us wee human meat-sandwiches.

Any thoughts?

Redsliver 🚫

I'll use italics for the name's of ships. I'll use multiple exclamation points if I'm writing out a text from one character to another. I've never used bold. I have used all caps for emphasis in one story but it died on the vine.

Ernest Bywater 🚫

I use italics in a few ways, but now it's mostly to do with a person's thoughts. The other main use is in the first use of a nickname or a formal name as is often required by many style guides; eg of formal name: I read Mark Twain's 'Huckleberry Finn' today.

I usually use bold for headings, and emphasized words; eg of emphasized words: While I don't mind be criticized I really hate it when people pick on me for the way I walk with a limp from a childhood accident.

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Vincent Berg 🚫

@Ernest Bywater

I think it goes without saying that italics are preferred when referring to the name of a book, a ship, or foreign, non-Americanized/Englishized words (i.e. where the spelling doesn't change to make it easier for us to pronounce).

Likewise, bolding, like all caps, is the preferred form for someone shouting. I also use it when signs are bolded (The signs, as non-spoken dialogue, is represented via indented text). As far as adding multiple exclamation marks to reflect someone's level of excitement, that's not recounting what someone's said in dialogue. Instead, it's akin to adding a "he shouted loudly, at the top of his longs for a really, really long time" tag on the end of a sentence. Since it doesn't reflect what's actually said, I don't consider modifications to standard punctuation marks to be justified, but … it is fairly common, at least among SOL authors.

And, since I write a LOG of paranormal sci-fi, which often encorporates variations on telepathy, I use a combination of single quotes (quoted text within a quote) and italics (internal thoughts). Though, with many independent text readers, italics are read in a hurry, making detailed scientific discussion difficult to comprehend. :(

BarBar 🚫
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Like EB I use italics for book/film names. I used to use them for emphasis as well but I'm tending to stop doing that and looking for ways within the text to emphasise what needs emphasising.

Given that I am posting on SOL, I make use of SOLs block feature (indent and different typeface) for quotes from songs or other sources which I think is fun. If I was publishing somewhere else I would have to think of something different for that.

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Vincent Berg 🚫

@BarBar

Given that I am posting on SOL, I make use of SOLs block feature (indent and different typeface) for quotes from songs or other sources which I think is fun.

Technically, that's considered an epigraph, where an author incorporates either a famous quote or song lyrics to summarize what the chapter is about, and yes, that is the recognized form for epigraphs (though SOL typically italicizes the text, while leaving the source (i.e. creator's name) in normal text), outside of the author's individual formatting.

Switch Blayde 🚫

@Vincent Berg

I do not use bold, all caps, or more than one exclamation point, and use the exclamation point sparingly.

I use italics for thoughts, an emphasized word, and foreign words that aren't common foreign words.

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Vincent Berg 🚫

@Switch Blayde

I do not use bold, all caps, or more than one exclamation point, and use the exclamation point sparingly.

Yeah, I prefer using punctuation sparingly, though I also cheat occasionally, dropping punctuation when it improves the flow of the sentence/story, or helps link two sentence fragments into a single coherent thought, so those are more of a form of pacing for sentences.

My editors hate whenever I do that, but they'd resigned themselves to it, and no longer complain nearly as much as they once did. (It's another good reader to listen to your text read by someone/something else.)

Remus2 🚫

I suggest consistency in your writing style and ignoring those that complain. Consistency is more important than opinion. Your readers will expect and agree with certain things. The people that won't are not likely to read many of your stories anyway.

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Vincent Berg 🚫

@Remus2

I suggest consistency in your writing style and ignoring those that complain. Consistency is more important than opinion. Your readers will expect and agree with certain things. The people that won't are not likely to read many of your stories anyway.

While I agree with your summary, I disagree (somewhat) with your conclusion. Often, the harshest (in terms of creativity) are when faithful, dedicated readers point out story inconsistencies which require you to toss out entire chapters or subplots. That's always difficult to take, and authors tend to take it personally. Yet, those readers offer them (generally) as suggestions only, and will continue reading whatever you do with it.

Generally, they only STOP reading when it becomes a fight between those offering advice, and those resisting or refusing to consider it. That said, I've had MANY 'suggestions' that somehow twist into political dictims (this character's view are idiotic, and are clearly your personal view, so until you retract them, and only write things that echo what I believe, I'll refuse to read anything you write). This especially happens a lot when a subject like homosexuality comes up in a story.

In those cases, where someone tries to dictate what I write, I calmly suggest some other stories they might prefer over mine, gently suggesting they quit reading mine entirely. ;)

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Remus2 🚫

@Vincent Berg

I disagree (somewhat) with your conclusion. Often, the harshest (in terms of creativity) are when faithful, dedicated readers point out story inconsistencies which require you to toss out entire chapters or subplots. That's always difficult to take, and authors tend to take it personally. Yet, those readers offer them (generally) as suggestions only, and will continue reading whatever you do with it.

Stated that way, I'd be inclined to agree with your exception.

Pixy 🚫

I tend to use italics when the character is having an internal monologue(rant), because using " or ' tends to imply (in my mind) that what ever has been said, has been said audibly.

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Vincent Berg 🚫
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@Pixy

9/30/2019, 1:09:26 PM

I tend to use italics when the character is having an internal monologue(rant), because using " or ' tends to imply (in my mind) that what ever has been said, has been said audibly.

Actually, the most commonly accepted standards are that double-quotes flag spoken dialogue, while single-quotes signify unspoken dialogue or internal thoughts (though these are often reversed for British writers). However, single-quotes or italics are roughly used equally for internal dialogue (no direct stats available), so use whichever you're more comfortable with.

Uther_Pendragon 🚫

@Vincent Berg

I use italics mostly for books, newspapers, and the like.
I occasionally use bold for emphasis; Exclamation points, always alone, I mostly restrict to dialogue.

Replies:   Vincent Berg  Redsliver
Vincent Berg 🚫

@Uther_Pendragon

I occasionally use bold for emphasis; Exclamation points, always alone, I mostly restrict to dialogue.

Yeah, when the narrator gets out of breathe, you've gotta wonder just how impartial he really is! :)

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Dominions Son 🚫

@Vincent Berg

Yeah, when the narrator gets out of breathe, you've gotta wonder just how impartial he really is! :)

Um..., outside of a third person omniscient narrator, why would you expect the narrator to be impartial?

Redsliver 🚫

@Uther_Pendragon

Exclamation points, always alone, I mostly restrict to dialogue.

Same. Even if I'm writing a first person narrative. I'd like to say I've always done it, but I can't be certain. There might be a way to juggle it, perhaps if you have multiple narrators. Now, I'm curious if I've done it with Lost Toys. I'd like to say there are some characters, Tiffany and Courtney, who would overuse exclamation points but I might not have written that and I haven't revisited it in over a year.

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