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KinkyWinks

I would enter this in the Libre Office thread but it went south, which is fine. I did something to the story I'm working on and now I have the first page looking right and the next pages side by side like a book. Now I realize I'm writing a book but I would really like to have it all in one line from top to bottom. I'm sure I did it but I don't know when or how.

Replies:   The Outsider
The Outsider

@KinkyWinks

It sounds as if the view setting is set to "facing pages" or something similar. I don't know LO that well, but if it has a "View" option in the menu bar try changing the option to "normal." You might need to search heir help topics.

Ernest Bywater
Updated:

In the menu check the menu item View - check the item Status Bar has a tick beside to show it is active (if it doesn't click on it) .

Status Bar should be displayed across the bottom of the Libre Office window with the left side saying which page you're on of how many pages total. Far right should have a percentage figure to show the magnification setting, a slide bar for the magnification and beside that is three icons. The right hand icon is two pages together with the outer top corners turned, the middle one is two pages side bar side with the top right hand corner turned and the left icon is a single page with the top right corner turned. One should be a little darker image than the others - that's the current setting. Right hand icon is book view , middle is side by side, and the left is single page at a time.

In book vie it will look like an open book with the big gutter margin in the center. In the single page view the gutter or inner margin will switch sides as you scroll down.

edit to add: the above is based on having the Normal view option set as against the Web view option.

KinkyWinks

Now I have one long page with no breaks and the text is full width of the screen.

KinkyWinks

Another problem is when I switch from Web view to Normal, it is all in one line but the first page is blank. When I switch back to web, the first page is visible but the text is still full screen width.

Replies:   Capt. Zapp
Ernest Bywater

the web setting should be like a web page, and the normal setting should be like a book page.

It may be you have a page setting different to what I do, so if the single page view doesn't look right for you, try the middle page view icon.

I always use the book view setting, but sometimes get the single page setting when the story is returned from two of the editors, so I need to adjust it back.

Ernest Bywater

part of how the pages display is due to how you have the page settings and paragraph styles set, as well as the display options. A lot also depends on the page size settings and where you set the page breaks.

If you have the system set to have the first page different and no text in it it will show blank.

KinkyWinks

I didn't change anything unless it was by accident. The page index is now at the max and I can not change it. I can move the setting tab but it does not change the page. I have tried the Select All and changing the index and it will not move.
I did download their update two or three days ago so I have the latest version.

Replies:   Capt. Zapp
Capt. Zapp

@KinkyWinks

Another problem is when I switch from Web view to Normal, it is all in one line but the first page is blank. When I switch back to web, the first page is visible but the text is still full screen width.


Sounds to me like you have a 'hidden' Page Break as the first character on the first page. This forces the first page in Normal view to be blank.

Capt. Zapp

@KinkyWinks

I didn't change anything unless it was by accident. The page index is now at the max and I can not change it.


Hunting down accidental changes are a pain in the rear. Not sure what you mean by page index, so I can't help there.

KinkyWinks

Capt Zapp, how do you fix a hidden page break? I meant margin, this has got me so rattled because I am afraid to write anything else on that story.

Ernest Bywater

Are you showing the formatting marks? on the menu bar go - View - Formatting Marks or Ctrl plus F10 to toggle it. If you are there should be an odd looking backward facing P at the end of each line and where you have a blank lines. There should also be dots for each space between words, and a row of dotted lines above the page where you have a page break.

Ernest Bywater

The other things that change the display a lot are the Page settings and the Paragraph settings. From the menu bar - Format - Page - and - Format - Paragraph - to check the page sizes and margins and layouts.

BTW Those 3 icons I mentioned in the first reply are named (from left to right) - Single Page View - Multiple Page View - Book View, and you just click on each to to pick it.

The other thing is to check the percentage in the far right of the status bar to see what it's set at.

Ernest Bywater

I'm still on 5.4.3.2. and see there's a 5.4.4. available, so I'll update and see what happens.

KinkyWinks
Updated:

I copied and pasted to a new file in LibreOffice and the only change I had to make was to a single page. The title lined up and all the page breaks are there. The percentage is 200 and that is what I had it set at on the original. I guess I was just not trying hard enough to fix it. I did order the all about it book from LibreOffice. The problem I have with most books of that type is, I'm at square one block one on knowledge and they are way above my understanding.

And Ernest, Thanks, you have always been kind to me.

Replies:   Capt. Zapp
Ernest Bywater

I always try to help. I've got to go out to spend the day in court, with travel time it's usually a 12 hour task, so I'll check back later to see if you've fixed it or not.

KinkyWinks

I'm going to call it fixed, no trouble in the last few hours.

Capt. Zapp

@KinkyWinks

I copied and pasted to a new file in LibreOffice and the only change I had to make was to a single page. The title lined up and all the page breaks are there. The percentage is 200 and that is what I had it set at on the original.


Sounds like you just accidentally changed a setting in that document. Glad you got it straightened out. I was about to suggest you copy it to a new document and see what happens. Sometimes the simplest solutions are the least obvious.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@Capt. Zapp

Knowing nothing about LibreOffice, is there an 'undo' facility and does it work on more than text changes?

AJ

Replies:   Capt. Zapp  KinkyWinks
Capt. Zapp

@awnlee jawking

is there an 'undo' facility and does it work on more than text changes?


There is an 'undo' and I have found instances where it does not function. Unfortunately I can't think of any off the top of my head because it usually only happens once.

KinkyWinks

@awnlee jawking

There is an undo but if you don't know you did it you can't fix it. I wish I had seen it, but it's working now.

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