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Changing Word Text document formatting

elevated_subways 🚫

I have a couple of existing files that I was working on for a while. Just after buying a new computer, I was unable to open some old files using UTF-8 formatting. The text just appears as random symbols. I know it used to be easy to change in the formatting dialogue box, but I can't get it to work now. There is still the same set of symbols. I also can't get it to stay as plain text.

Michael Loucks 🚫

@elevated_subways

I think this is what you want:

File/Options/Advanced

Scroll to General and select Confirm file format conversion on open

In theory, that should ask you which file format when you open the file again. Choose the correct format and you should be all set.

Replies:   Vincent Berg
Vincent Berg 🚫

@Michael Loucks

The key here is that the Word files are not UTF format, only the converted files are. The actual formatting of Word files are based on enabling Word's features (i.e. being able to 'roll back' changes).

Replies:   Michael Loucks
Michael Loucks 🚫

@Vincent Berg

I solved the problem, and it was far more complicated than just 'UTF-8' encoding, something with which I'm extremely familiar.

elevated_subways 🚫

@elevated_subways

Thanks. When I use the Confirm File Format Conversion on Opening, I get a dialogue box asking me to change the format. I can't seem to change anything in there. I'd like it to stay as plain text, but the only way I can see the text is by changing the font of the entire document. Some fonts have the text appear, but the formatting needs a lot of work. Perhaps that is the best that can be done.

Michael Loucks 🚫

@elevated_subways

If you DM me, I'll provide an email address and convert the file for you (I'm positive my Mac can do it).

Vincent Berg 🚫

@elevated_subways

It sounds like it's more than fonts and font sizes, possibly non-dynamic mono-spacing rather than adaptive spacing, where each character is its own width.

If you "i" is the same width as your "m", then you're using monospacing—which is easier to see for older eyes, yet it does change how the text appears on the page.

However, you really can't change the font of specific lines to segments. You can, say if you want to include the dialogue spoken in a foreign tongue, but generally, you use a specific font rather than randomly switching them, as doing that makes it much more difficult cleaning it up afterwards.

Also, certain fonts are more distinctive than others. If your 't's have little tails, then you have "serif" fonts, if not you have "non-serif" fonts (which makes a difference when speed reading, as it makes it easier to distinguish patterns at a glance, essentially observing the word without actually reading it.

Still, your best strategy is to pick a specific font and then make it your standard default font and not switching them around without a specific reason.

As a graphic-designer, I've long designed my own covers as well as formatting each of my books (SOL only allows limited formatting changes, which is better for most authors).

Replies:   Michael Loucks
Michael Loucks 🚫

@Vincent Berg

It sounds like it's more than fonts and font sizes, possibly non-dynamic mono-spacing rather than adaptive spacing, where each character is its own width.

This is NOT it. I've seen the file and resolved the OPs difficulties.

It was a text-encoding problem, complicated by MS Word and Windows code pages.

Replies:   Vincent Berg
Vincent Berg 🚫
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@Michael Loucks

It was a text-encoding problem, complicated by MS Word and Windows code pages.

A well-known problem, as Word maintains each documents entire history in its coding. So I've posted directly from Word, as I typically covert it to html, stripping that extraneous coding, then re-converting to whatever format is required.

Unfortunately, Calibre, the handiest conversion tool, duplicates every single label, making my 'clean' conversions a mess, as Calibre's conversions from Word or much worse than Word's default.

Then again, converting to UTF (as SOL prefers) should resolve those Windows code pages, once you've cleaned the html, of course.

Dominions Son 🚫

@Vincent Berg

Unfortunately, Calibre, the handiest conversion tool

How is that handier than save as html in Word?

Michael Loucks 🚫

@Vincent Berg

Just write in plain text with Markdown + SOL tagged formatting. No problems, ever. No extra encoding, no history, etc.

I use file versioning for history, and it's simple to convert those plain text files to anything I need with Scrivener, Pages, or just about any other tool

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