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So, what was the consensus on AI-Slop on this site? Do stories have to be marked AI?

Sarkasmus 🚫
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As the title says. I see many stories posted each day that are CLEARLY AI-works, or at the very least AI-assisted, but not tagged as such.
Just now, I read a new chapter by an author who was away for close to a year, and all of a sudden his submissions are full of em-dashes, empty phrases and metaphors that don't lead anywhere, and the character's clothes changed three times in just as many paragraphs because AI is unable to maintain consistency for more than five sentences in a row.

Should we report such stories/authors, or is the site fine with slop being posted?
I know there was a big discussion a few months back... but I never saw a definitive statement/conclusion coming out of it.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)
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@Sarkasmus

Should we report such stories/authors?

Yes.

PS: Regarding the mdashes, my scripts may change a double dash to an mdash. So that's not always a sign of AI gen.

Replies:   Vincent Berg
Vincent Berg 🚫

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

No, but it's a documented tendency of AI. A late-development tendency, as reported by the NY Times on Dec. 12th (?). Basically, it vacuumed up a bunch of 'Literary' works, noted the use of em-dashes, so now it uses the em-dashes more than any author would normally use, yet never uses the similar em-dashes. It's CLEARLY a sign of AI created text. But, aside from the Times, it hasn't been widely reported. Three guesses why in the current race multiple sources to have their AI declared superior than the others, which each is only getting worse.

But I've also seen numerous stories which are clearly marked as AI written. So anyone who hasn't noticed simply isn't paying attention.

Basically, anyone who hasn't a clue how to write can now just provide a few prompt and write an entire saga in record time. It'l still read like crap, yet their ratings don't seem to matter, they just like the attention and views by those who don't know any better.

I notice, because I've long been lamenting the new AIs, so I pay attention every time I see an AI-written story. Normally, when someone supposedly used it for spell-checking or proofing, they'd openly declare that. That's not happening with the vast majority of the AI-craft stories.

Trying to hide the evidence doesn't eliminate their growing predominance.

And LOAnnie, so have I, yet I've always understood how to use them, before including them in stories.

Again, we now have more 6-rated and under stories than ever, where the 'authors' brag about how popular they are then actually describing the story. If they don't even know the stories they're generating, that doesn't help anyone on the site.

I've always been eager to help anyone who's interested in learning the more technical details of writing, yet that simply ain't happening now.

Which is why I'm now visiting SOL's main page less and less, because there just aren't that many decent stories anymore, and I can always catch up on any missed chapters easily enough.

This is a new al-time low for SOL, and it doesn't make any of us look good. Yet anytime anyone complains, you're quick to assure us that there are no problems of any kind.

I'm now spending more time reading long-archived stories than I am bothering with anything new.

Sorry about the rhetoric, but I am pretty pissed over these issues. But then there are always the classics. I've seen popular sits fail before, I'd just rather it not happen to SOL.

Replies:   Michael Loucks
Michael Loucks 🚫

@Vincent Berg

It's CLEARLY a sign of AI created text.

I've run AI detectors on my text, and they generally come back as 'human'. I make extensive use of em-dashes, but I break convention — there is a space on either side of them.

When I re-tested a chapter without the space on either side of the em-dash, I got a 'likely AI' for the same, exact, completely human-written text.

I use spell checkers, and that's it. The AI grammar checkers are pretty much all shite. I could regale you with the garbage they've suggested during some tests, but I'll just give one example:

Original text: "The Chicago Bears are favored by a field goal."

AI 'Corrected' text: "A field goal favors the Chicago Bears.

🤦🏼‍♂️

That was one of many, many outright stupid things it suggested for one 6000-word chapter. And that test was a few weeks ago. AI has a long, long way to go.

Replies:   Switch Blayde
Switch Blayde 🚫

@Michael Loucks

When I re-tested a chapter without the space on either side of the em-dash, I got a 'likely AI' for the same, exact, completely human-written text.

That's interesting and something that befuddles me.

An em-dash without the spaces (xxx—xxx) is the convention for novels while with the spaces (xxx — xxx) is the convention for webpages.

What does the convention have to do with whether it's AI generated or not? Makes no sense.

LOAnnie 🚫

@Sarkasmus

I have stories I haven't touched in years with em-dash's—it's just how I write

sunseeker 🚫

@Sarkasmus

I gotta ask "what are m-dashes" and can ya gimme an example how it is used?

SunSeeker

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