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POTUS denied renomination?

PotomacBob ๐Ÿšซ

It may have happened and I just don't remember it, but has a major political party ever declined to nominate its own incumbent President who wanted another term? I think the GOP denied former president Teddy Roosevelt nomination, but he was not incumbent at the time

Comedy ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

I think that happened to Gerald Ford, but don't quote me on it.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Comedy

Yeah, Ford is the only possibility I can think of. And like you, I'm not sure that happened to Ford.

The results of most US Presidential elections, all the way back to the founding era, are available on line. You could check all the elections that followed a one term president to see if the incumbent was his party's candidate.

jimq2 ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

In 1976 Ford was nominated, but lost to Jimmy Carter.

tendertouch ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

It's a bit odd, but 1868. Johnson was vice president on the Republican ticket, but personally was a Democrat. He tried for the Democratic nomination in 1868, and failed.

happytechguy15 ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

Biden got nomination in 2024, but who switched it to Harris? Is this situation similar to the original question?

jimq2 ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

He was convinced to concede the nomination by the hierarchy of the Democratic Party as his mental and physical health were both failing.

Replies:   ystokes
ystokes ๐Ÿšซ

@jimq2

Being a life-long Lib myself, Joe should never have run for reelection. There should be an age limit to run. Just my opinion.

Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@ystokes

There should be an age limit to run.

There is. You must be at least 35 years old to be president.

As to a maximum age, there are 80-year-olds as sharp as 50-year-olds, and 50-year-olds as [you fill in the adjective for lack of mental capacity] as 80-year-olds.

Replies:   Daydreamz
Daydreamz ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

The point is more that nobody's brain works as well at 80 as it did at 50. If you start with someone clever then they might still get by at 80, day to day, but it will be a deterioration.

So if your starting point is a TV show host, and the job involves remembering and processing an immense amount of information, it's going to be problematic isn't it. Windmills , Bibi, ICE, all these simplifications. Joe, the same, like Afghanistan.

Replies:   Switch Blayde
Switch Blayde ๐Ÿšซ

@Daydreamz

Warren Buffet is 95 years old and finally retiring. I think he was pretty sharp at 80.

It's not the number of years. It's their mental capacity.

Replies:   jimq2  TheDarkKnight
jimq2 ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

It's their mental capacity.

Or lack thereof.

Replies:   Not_a_ID
Not_a_ID ๐Ÿšซ

@jimq2

Or lack thereof.

And in Joe's case, even Ronald Reagan was making jokes about Biden's mental capabilities while he (Reagan) was in office. More than 30 years before Biden managed to attain the presidency.

TheDarkKnight ๐Ÿšซ

@Switch Blayde

I tunred 80 in February, and my mind is as dirty as ever.

Replies:   jimq2
jimq2 ๐Ÿšซ

@TheDarkKnight

I tunred 80

Then you have hope, but your spelling doesn't. [grin]

Replies:   TheDarkKnight
TheDarkKnight ๐Ÿšซ

@jimq2

At least I got February right. That one is tricky.

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@ystokes

Being a life-long Lib myself, Joe should never have run for reelection. There should be an age limit to run. Just my opinion.

I consider my self a conservative leaning libertarian, a minarchist. Joe should never have run (full stop).

I agree on the upper age limit, but that would take a constitutional amendment.

Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

The two most recent 'near misses' were Ronald Reagan (vs Ford) in 1976 and Teddy Kennedy (vs Carter) in 1980.

Paladin_HGWT ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

You were close.

After serving for two terms (he served most of POTUS McKinley's second term, after he was assassinated), TR (Theodore Roosevelt) 'sponsored' Taft to be the GOP nominee for the 1908 election; Taft was elected POTUS. However, TR challenged Taft, the incumbent POTUS, for the 1912 GOP Nomination for POTUS. The GOP chose the current incumbent, Taft, over TR.

Roosevelt then formed the "Bull Moose" Party; resulting in Wodrow Wilson getting elected...

Replies:   Joe Long
Joe Long ๐Ÿšซ

@Paladin_HGWT

and I believe that was the last time a major party candidate finished out of the top 2 in electoral votes. But yes, Teddy split the R votes, allowing Wilson to win the election.

Pete Fox ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

Joe Biden, comes to mind. No Dem primary just handed off to his VP.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Pete Fox

Joe Biden, comes to mind. No Dem primary just handed off to his VP.

He got the nomination then withdrew.

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