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Question on national security and how far can the press go

Vonalt ๐Ÿšซ

I think I already know the answer to this, but I will ask it any way. The protagonist in my latest story is involved in a mission that is vital to our national interests. A reporter learns of the mission and the protagonist's involvement. How far can a reporter go before his investigation is considered a threat to national security. When I wrote this I had the reporter harassing the protagonist at his house and threatening the wife about revealing private facts about the protagonist and his family. How much of that would be considered gathering news and how much is harassment and a threat to national interest. I think back during the Vietnam Era when some private news was released about the war and the stink it caused then. Think it was called the Pentagon Papers.

DBActive ๐Ÿšซ

@Vonalt

National security is irrelevant. Those acts are a crime extortion. It may be called different things in different jurisdictions.

akarge ๐Ÿšซ

@Vonalt

I do know that it is different from country to country. In the UK, I think they can officially say 'hands off' and the press shuts up. (UK residents please correct me if I am wrong)
However, in the USA, it is REALLY hard to shut the press down. You can't make them not divulge their info, but they MIGHT be able to prosecute them for how they got the info.

Replies:   Dinsdale
Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@akarge

To the UK: D Notices (Official version).
To the US: I remember a case during the - I think - the "Dubya Administration". The husband was a journalist, the wife worked in the CIA, and not as a secretary. He wrote an article casting doubt (putting it gently!) on the Administration's proclaimed reasons for going to war against Saddam Hussein's Iraq. A member of the Administration then doxxed the wife in retaliation. I believe that would have led to serious legal problems for the member of the Administration if that had happened in the UK

Replies:   DBActive
DBActive ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

That's the Palme affair. Richard Armitage leaked the information but did not know Palme was a covert CIA operative when he revealed that she recommended her husband help get information on Iraq's uranium buys.

Replies:   akarge  Paladin_HGWT
akarge ๐Ÿšซ

@DBActive

Plame, not Palme.
Investigation let to conviction of Scooter Libby, but he was Pardoned by Bush.

Replies:   DBActive
DBActive ๐Ÿšซ

@akarge

Libby's convictions were not for revealing Plame worked for the CIA. Turns out that wasn't even a secret. He was charged and convicted for perjury, on what, in retrospect, were extremely dubious evidence.
His jail sentence was commuted to probation by Bush. Trump later pardoned him.

Replies:   Dinsdale
Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ

@DBActive

Most of what I know about Scooter Libby was derived from reading between the lines of https://storiesonline.net/s/68384/a-fresh-start by rlfj, who was a registered Republican until the current candidate took over the party.

Paladin_HGWT ๐Ÿšซ

@DBActive

That's the Plame affair. Richard Armitage leaked the information but did not know Plame was a covert CIA operative when he revealed that she recommended her husband help get information on Iraq's uranium buys.

I am not sure if V. Plame was ever a "covert operative" but in any case, at the time she was an "overt" member of the bureaucracy of the CIA, she and her former ambassador husband were both publicly listed in "Who's Who" albeit among the much lesser knowns (or unknowns to the public) who were known to the media, and others "in the know" in the Washington D.C. area.

She and her husband are vilely cunning! They went on the attack to distract attention from the nepotism of selecting her husband (for which there is considerable evidence were Political, not professional reasons). By shrilling they were "compromised" yet the incident "came to light" in response to an article her husband solicited to, and was published by the New York Times, and other places.

It is yet another example of "Lawfare" in that "Scooter" Libby was Tried and Convicted, despite clear evidence that Richard Armitage actually "leaked" the information. It was Known by the Prosecutor that R. Armitage had provided the quote to the media, to which "Scooter" Libby was responding; the Prosecutor used Armitage as a Witness against Libby!

Libby is a terrifying example of Why if Questioned by Law Enforcement Agents/Investigators/Officers" you should Insist upon an Attorney, and respond "I CanNOT recall." just as FLOTUS Clinton typically does.

Her husband, the former ambassador was devilishly clever; he had signed an NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement); so, in the article he wrote he Lied! He stated that there was "No yellow cake uranium" purchased from Niger by Iraq, and subsequently shipped to Iraq. He didn't violate the NDA because he didn't write about what was in the report, he made crap up.

The Bush administration was in a quandary, because if they refuted the newspaper report, they would have been accused of disclosing National Secrets for "political reasons" an epic case of "Catch 22" in real life!

Replies:   hst666
hst666 ๐Ÿšซ

@Paladin_HGWT

Time to change your meds.

Vonalt ๐Ÿšซ

@Vonalt

More I keep reading this chapter I was going to submit soon, the more I want to rework it. The chapter doesn't work with the story line up to that point and definitely makes later chapters harder to follow in all of the twists and turns that it has.

hst666 ๐Ÿšซ

@Vonalt

harassing the protagonist at his house and threatening the wife about revealing private facts about the protagonist and his family

Threatening to reveal private facts in order to coerce actions is blackmail.

hst666 ๐Ÿšซ

@Vonalt

The Pentagon Papers were provided to the press. If the press receives such information, it's up to their discretion.

Paladin_HGWT ๐Ÿšซ

@Vonalt

How far varies by nation, In the USA it also varies by State.

It also seems to significantly matter the Political Party of the POTUS!

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