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PotomacBob ๐Ÿšซ

I've read stories on SOL that talked about fictional characters living in orphanages. I'm unsure about precisely when those stories are set.
When I was a kid, living in a small town, there was a church-run rather large (by my standards) orphanage. The kids - probably 200 or more of them - lived in dorm-like buildings on the campus of what had once been a college. The orphans did NOT go to school on the campus. Instead they walked to the nearest elementary School (maybe 5 of 6 blocks) or high school (about 2 blocks), both public schools run by the county. That arrangement persisted throughout my own grades 1 thru 12, so I went to school with many orphans. Some of them were among the smartest and most talented students in our schools.
Though I was friends with many of them, it never occurred to me to ask what would happen to them in later years, and they never volunteered that information.
Sometime later, after I had graduated from high school and moved away, the kids were moved out of the dorms and placed in homes. I don't know why. It is my impression, without knowing, that there are a lot fewer of them now than there were then.
I have just read on the Internet (therefore it MUST be true, right?) that none of those old traditional orphanages exist today anywhere in the United States.
Does anybody know what happened? If it happened nationwide, was there a federal law that changed it? And when did it happen? Overnight? Over a number of years?
If there's an interesting history (other than "it just happened"), my intent would be to use it in a work in progress.

Mushroom ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

Does anybody know what happened?

Largely birth control and abortion. I would say those are the two biggest reasons why they are not around anymore.

Replies:   Marius-6  DBActive
Marius-6 ๐Ÿšซ

@Mushroom

Largely birth control and abortion. I would say those are the two biggest reasons why they are not around anymore.

There are more kids in Foster Care, and other social services; or in "Juvenile Detention" than were ever in Orphanages.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Marius-6

There are more kids in Foster Care, and other social services; or in "Juvenile Detention" than were ever in Orphanages.

True, but a lot of the kids in foster care are technically not orphans.

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DBActive ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

True, but a lot of the kids in foster care are technically not orphans.

Nor were many of the kids in traditional orphanages.

Replies:   Paladin_HGWT  Mushroom
Paladin_HGWT ๐Ÿšซ

@DBActive

I deployed to the Caribbean island nation of Grenada for Operation Urgent Fury, and later for Operation Island Breeze in the early-mid 1980's. My unit was the first time focused upon searching for weapons caches (and occasionally members of the PRA). We also provided Force Protection for a Special Forces ODA (Operational Detachment Alpha) and other personnel supporting them.

The ODA was there to train Grenadian Constabulary; all of them were "ancient" veterans of Vietnam and most were ROAD (Retired On Active Duty) {that term is a joke} and often encouraged we eager young paratroopers to conduct many of the training tasks (while they relaxed in the shade).

One of our improvisational "Hearts & Minds" activities was to rebuild several Catholic orphanages (which had been damaged by Cuban soldiers; apparently out of sheer cussedness).

I was told that some, possibly many of the kids in the orphanages were not "true" orphans; rather they were abandoned by their parents.

There were a number of street kids too who would ask us GIs for food, candy, etc. Not "begging" in the traditional sense, nor like modern panhandlers. They would just ask for stuff, sometimes offering to do chores or odd jobs. A couple boys in their early teens would skin-dive with snorkels, nets and spearguns to collect seafood for local restaurants (and give us some lobsters for letting them dive in a lagoon inside our security cordon for Point Salinas Airfield. (They would trade us additional seafood for a duffle bag full of MREs.)

As I recall, most boys left the orphanages around age 13 or 14 (to get away from the rules, it seems) and the girls would stay a few more years. Mild climate, and generosity/"Tradition" seems to have kept the street kids fed and clothed. While it was a "concern" to the community, I believe this was not more than 1% of the kids who were abandoned, and fewer who were actual orphans.

The veteran Special Forces soldiers mentored us (stringently) to not be overly generous, or else we would cause friction when we left and the community could not, or would not, equal our largess! We were a welcome stopgap as the people of Grenada rebuild their economy, and the tourist trade in particular.

My first deployment to Grenada was my first deployment, and I was barely 18. Yet in many ways it set the tone for many of my later deployments during 28 years of military service. Nearly everywhere we deployed, my unit, and/or volunteers, including me, would provide assistance to local orphanages.

I spent a significant amount of my career serving alongside special operations units; as well as several years in SOCOM. Even some of the gruffest soldiers would volunteer to provide assistance to orphans and other kids.

Mushroom ๐Ÿšซ

@DBActive

Nor were many of the kids in traditional orphanages.

Actually, they were.

Foster care is only intended as a short term solution, until the parents can resume care for them again or some other family member can take custody. Many do turn out to be long term solutions, but that is never the intent.

But all of the kids at orphanages had the parents give up all parental rights, had died with no next of kin to take them, or had those rights permanently stripped in court.

All no longer had legal guardians other than the state, and while the younger ones were often adopted legally into other families, the older ones (or those "not adoptable") often remained in them until they got their majority. As generally the closer they got to puberty, the harder it became to find them new families.

There are still "group home" facilities in the US, but all are only designed to house and care for the children until they grow up. Finding them new families is no longer part of the program.

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DBActive ๐Ÿšซ

@Mushroom

But all of the kids at orphanages had the parents give up all parental rights, had died with no next of kin to take them, or had those rights permanently stripped in court.

I can't post links right now from my phone, but historians would disagree. Most children had at least one living parent and many were placed by the parents for only short times.

DBActive ๐Ÿšซ

@Mushroom

Largely birth control and abortion. I would say those are the two biggest reasons why they are not around anymore.

Both of those are insignificant factors. One reason is the movement against institutions that also led to the closing of mental hospitals and institutions for the mentally handicapped in favor of group homes. A second reason is the decrease in the stigma of unmarried pregnancy.

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Mushroom ๐Ÿšซ

@DBActive

Both of those are insignificant factors. One reason is the movement against institutions that also led to the closing of mental hospitals and institutions for the mentally handicapped in favor of group homes. A second reason is the decrease in the stigma of unmarried pregnancy.

I would doubt that. And it can be seen simply in the rapid decline by the late 1960's. First, the birth control pill rapidly reduced unwanted pregnancies. Then Roe V. Wade helped eliminate many that did happen.

I have actually had this conversation with my own kids. I am of the "Boomer" generation, and all of us knew several kids that had been adopted growing up. It was not uncommon at all, as well as inter-family adoptions. But my kids all told me they knew of no kids that had been adopted.

And honestly, in High School I only knew 2 gals that got pregnant and had their kids. By the late 1970's it was actually fairly rare to see a teen mother as there were "other alternatives" by that time.

And yes, I do see it now more often. But I do not think it was "stigma", as much as at that time the mothers seemed to have a firmer grasp on what the realities of having a child that young were. I knew a couple a few decades ago when I was working with a "College Age Youth Group" in my church, and all seemed to almost be in denial of what life would be like as an 18 or 19 year old single mother.

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DBActive ๐Ÿšซ

@Mushroom

What you miss is that the existence of birth control and abortion did not reduce the actual numbers of children who would have been in orphanages. Almost all of the children in foster care are children who would have been placed in orphanages pre WW2.
As to your kids not knowing of adopted children - I find that very surprising. I coached kid's sports for years and almost every year I had one or two kids on my teams that were adopted.
The are of course numerous reasons why orphanages disappeared, among them are the increased difficulty in terminating parental rights and increasing social welfare. The overriding reason is the movement to deinstitutionalize child care.

shinerdrinker ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

I don't know why but I felt like adding to this particular discussion. If I tell myself the truth, it's probably because I've wondered this myself. So I copied the question as the basis for this topic and took what I consider probably a bit of an authority on the subject.

Traditional orphanages in the United States began closing following World War II, as public social services were on the rise. US adoption policy and procedures, as well as child protection laws, began to take shape, leading to the demise of traditional American orphanages, which were replaced with individual and small group foster homes. The reformers pushing for this change argued that children would do better placed in homes, where they could receive personalized care and individual attention, than in institutions. By the 1950s, more children lived in foster homes than in orphanages in the United States, and by the 1960s, foster care had become a government-funded program.

At least that is according to Adoption.com and their story "Do Orphanages Still Exist in America?
A brief history of orphanages in the United States."

Seemed like a good answer so I took it.

sunseeker ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

when looking for info for a story, I read that in Canada orphanages were replaced completely by the foster care system...

Redsliver ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

What happened to all of the orphanages?

Seriously, I've already apologized for the incident(s), this is pettiness won't bring anyone back.

Paladin_HGWT ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

The VFW (Veterans of Foreign Wars) has a Home for Widows and Orphans of personnel who were killed (or crippled) in military or naval service (or to assist families of personnel on active duty in any of the US armed services).

It is in Eaton Rapids, Michigan, and has been since 1925.

https://vfwnationalhome.org/

My VFW Post (and many others) raise money for them every month, as do many others. A member of our Post has visited several times, bringing donations from our Post and returning with personal reports.

Facilities have changed over the years. Currently there are 42 single family homes, an Education & Training Center with computer and science labs; a Day Care and early education facility. The goal is to train the widow (I don't know if there have been any widowers) to be self-supporting and to be able to move on in a year or two.

I don't know if any orphans without a parent or guardian are living on site. I believe an orphan of at least age 18 is eligible for assistance. According to their website they serve orphans from age 12 to 19; but primarily have children with one (or both) parents living in one of 42 single family homes on the campus.

I can't find the exact year when the Orphanage no longer had unaccompanied minors. I suspect, similar to Boys Town, that ended between the late 1980's and early 2000's.

Paladin_HGWT ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

As far as I can determine, "Boys Town" (that for several decades also assists girls too is the closest thing to an orphanage. They now have nine Orphanage/Group Home complexes, a hospital and several clinics.

The original "Boys Town" just outside Omaha, Nebraska still exists. Part of it is a National Historic Site. The Hospital is also there (or adjacent). It seems to be quite a complex of facilities.

As far as I could determine (with about an hour to research) in the mid-to-late 1980's they began transforming form an orphanage complex to a large number of "Group Homes" with a pair of adults (Husband and wife) and 6 to 12 boys (later boys & girls; I'm not sure if both sexes would share a house). They have complexes in multiple states from Nebraska to Florida.

Approximately 7,500 kids live in a "Boys Town" facility, and some 28,000 other kids are living with their families (or guardians) receiving various types of assistance from Boys own.

According to what I have read they have found that keeping kids with at least some element of their family is often the best chance for success. Some kids are in situations of abuse where they need to be in a Group Home.

Using the raw numbers, there would be roughly 800 kids and 160 Group Home caretakers per campus; however, I get the feeling they are not all the same size. I am nearly certain the complex near Omaha, Nebraska is the largest.

A "Group Home" of 12 kids would be similar in size to many small orphanages in the 19th and 20th century. They are in close proximity to each other and would seem to have significant supervision (from the Boys Town hierarchy and government authorities). There are also other educational, recreational, and support facilities on each campus.

Originally Boys Town was a Catholic institution. It is still administered by a Catholic priest, however, in recent decades they have included at least Protestant chapels on campus, and accept kids of any religious denomination, or none at all.

DBActive ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

You might want to look at the historical summary here:
www.theorphansociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/OSAReport_FINAL.pdf

Catman ๐Ÿšซ

@PotomacBob

Boys Ranch Texas has between 300 and 400 and has it's own school system, raises crops, and livestock. In Waco Texas there is the Methodist Childrens Home, I don't know how many kids there are, but the place is large with barrack style buildings.

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Paladin_HGWT ๐Ÿšซ

@Catman

Thanks for the information Catman.

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