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Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

I was going through some long-abandonned stories that are too short to be worth keeping and this one came up: Ashlyn by Dorian Grey.

I thought that the idea was very interesting but its poster created the account in 2003, created the pen name, posted that one bit and never logged in again. Below is the text posted, which is a prologue of a story and not a story in itself. I'm posting it here after I delete the original just in case somebody wants to pick up the idea and run with it:

In 2003, an Austrian born actor became the Governor of California. This was of course back before the world was unified and the concept of states became a thing of the past. In early 2004, this same Governor successfully lobbied the congress of the then United States of America, to allow naturalized citizens to run for the office of President.

In November of 2004, the Governor of California was elected president. During his term in office, the president secured peace with all nations. The United Nations became the ruling government of the world, and the U.S. President stepped down to take the post of the United Nations Secretary General.

With every former government and agency working in unison, astounding leaps in technology came almost immediately. Multi-terahertz personal computers were created that could hold terabytes of data, all inside a unit the size of a watch. Interactive holographic displays replaced the old keyboard and mouse input devices. Voice recognition software was enhanced and utilized on every system.

Space exploration went on overdrive. A faster-than-light (FTL) drive was conceived, built and installed in new shuttle designs. After a few spectacular explosions caused by the FTL drive ripping out of its housing and tearing through the ship at the speed of light, scientists came up with a few new alloys that would actually hold the drive in place. Once the new ships were certified safe, explorations were made. New planets were discovered, and new colonies were established in three separate solar systems.

All the scientists of the world came together to work on common problems. AIDS and Cancer cures were discovered and distributed. Prosthetic limbs were created that could read nerve impulses in the brain and act upon them. Obstetricians could weed out genetic anomalies from unborn children, eliminating all birth defects and abnormalities.

Nanotechnology improved by leaps and bounds. Little bitty robots that could perform almost any function could thrive in the bloodstream. Operations were rarely needed as an injection of Nanytes could repair almost any problem. Nanytes even spread to the glamour world, allowing women to change their hair, eye, and nail colors instantly. Hair length could be automatically controlled and even skin tone could be changed to give a person the perfect tan.

Cloning at this time was still in it's infancy and most certainly illegal. Until the wife of the Secretary General was killed in a freak boating accident that is. A proposal was sent throughout the UN and fast-tracked. Cloning became legal almost overnight.

After hundreds of failures, scientists discovered a method that would rapidly age a cloned body to a predetermined age. The rapid aging technique would then be halted and the clone would age normally from that point on. While they were at it, the technology was available to refine the DNA pattern specified. Sight, hearing, smell, musculature, all of these were enhanced in the first generation clones. After all if you're going to remake a person, why not remake them just a little bit better.

So the scientists had the bodies, but not the brains. What good does a 200 pound, 6 foot 3 inch, 2 year old do? The problem was considered and a solution found. While the clones were being grown, a unit was attached to their eyes and ears. This unit fed audio and visual data into the brain of the growing clone.

Now, it didn't take long to figure out that they could pretty much program a personality into these clones. Do you want your wife back as she was, or would you like her to cook too? I'm sure you can imagine the ramifications of this. The Secretary General did. Watching a few too many of his own movies, he placed an order for his wife to be recreated and brought to age 18. He wanted a mature personality, a good background in self defense and weaponry, survival skills, a lusty appetite, and swimming lessons. The clone was made to order and brought into the Secretary-General's household.

At around this time, a few facts were making themselves known about the new clones. They stopped aging at their predetermined age. Permanently. The improved musculature and bone structures made them stronger than the average gorilla. Their visual acuity was incredible. Most clones could track a fly buzzing around the room and count the hairs on its body. The auditory range of a clone was such that it could hear whispers across a large crowded room.

And the fact that got everyone up in arms; the clones were pissed off at being created. They were furious at having to live their lives in someone else's body, and most of all, they were really ticked that they were made to someone else's specifications.

Riots ensued, natural born humans hunted the clones down and killed any that weren't intelligent enough to hide. Cloning was once again banned, death warrants were issued for all remaining clones, and Arnold was ousted.

That's where I come in. My name is Ashley, Ash for short, and I'm a clone.

Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

In 2003, an Austrian born actor became the Governor of California. This was of course back before the world was unified and the concept of states became a thing of the past. In early 2004, this same Governor successfully lobbied the congress of the then United States of America, to allow naturalized citizens to run for the office of President.

Being the pedant I am, this would require a Constitutional amendment, not simply an act of Congress.

It's an interesting concept, and someone skilled at writing Sci Fi should take it up! :-)

Replies:   Gauthier  Mushroom
Gauthier ๐Ÿšซ

@Michael Loucks

this would require a Constitutional amendment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Opportunity_to_Govern_Amendment

Passed by the senate and ratified by the states within a year, in an election year... That really would stretch credibility.

Not to mention a republican Arnold running against an incumbent Bush. And Putin abandoning his Veto Power at the UN.

If you want to pivot history at the UN there was only two opportunities in 1991 and 2001, unfortunately both time, the Bush were at the helm.

Mushroom ๐Ÿšซ
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@Michael Loucks

It's an interesting concept, and someone skilled at writing Sci Fi should take it up!

That was already done, in "Demolition Man".

Which by the way also had the name "Scott Peterson" as one of the convicts released the same day as Sly's was. Scott Peterson a decade later would be convicted of killing his wife and their unborn son.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

A variant of Blade Runner with clones instead of androids.

AJ

Replies:   Gauthier  Paladin_HGWT
Gauthier ๐Ÿšซ
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@awnlee jawking

Or a variant of Friday by Heinlein.

or a dark version with Ash exterminating humans (A prelude to The preacher Man)

Replies:   JoeBobMack
JoeBobMack ๐Ÿšซ

@Gauthier

Or a variant of Friday by Heinlein.

Yup. That's what came to my mind.

Paladin_HGWT ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Replicants were biological creations. The most advanced Replicants could breed with humans.

They were not androids, if you mean robot or mechanical androids in most Sci Fi.

Replies:   richardshagrin
richardshagrin ๐Ÿšซ

@Paladin_HGWT

The most advanced Replicants could breed with humans.

Must have been Republicans. Not sure if "cants" means they can't repi. Repli cants. Republi can. There is a pub in there somewhere, drinking probably increases the chance of success.

joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Obviously Sci-Fi requires 'suspension of disbelief', but there ARE limits.

During his term in office, the president secured peace with all nations.

Sure...

The United Nations became the ruling government of the world,

We are SO fucked..!!

With every former government and agency working in unison,

Can't comment for laughing.

All the scientists of the world came together to work on common problems.

Because the only thing preventing that was a world government...

Obstetricians could weed out genetic anomalies from unborn children, eliminating all birth defects and abnormalities.

The USA has just made abortion illegal in most States... So obviously the UN world government run eugenics program will be welcomed by all.

Until the wife of the Secretary General was killed in a freak boating accident that is. A proposal was sent throughout the UN and fast-tracked. Cloning became legal almost overnight.

Leaving aside the whole self-interest thing. The UN fast-tracking anything almost overnight...??

Now, it didn't take long to figure out that they could pretty much program a personality into these clones.

And the fact that got everyone up in arms; the clones were pissed off at being created. They were furious at having to live their lives in someone else's body, and most of all, they were really ticked that they were made to someone else's specifications.

If you can program a personality into a clone, then how did the clone become pissed off? The clones fury was either programmed in, or can be programmed out.

Riots ensued, natural born humans hunted the clones down and killed any that weren't intelligent enough to hide. Cloning was once again banned, death warrants were issued for all remaining clones,

The only reason for the term 'natural born humans', is an acceptance that clones are considered human. If so they have 'rights' and genocide isn't going to fly. At least not until each clone is given time to 'self identify' as male, female, clone, human, bisexual robot... etc.

and Arnold was ousted.

He secured peace with all nations in less than four years. The UN Secretary General serves a five year term. He'll be back..!!

:)

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

The United Nations became the ruling government of the world,

Why bother with the euphemism. Why not just say China?

AJ

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

The USA has just made abortion illegal in most States...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/us/abortion-laws-roe-v-wade.html

13 out of 50 (26%) is a long ways short of "most"

Replies:   Michael Loucks
Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

13 out of 50 (26%) is a long ways short of "most"

Not to mention it's legal at least through the first trimester in CA, NY, FL, OH, PA, IL, and MI, which alone account for 40% of the US population. Of the 15 largest states, only TX (8.7%) has made it completely illegal.

Replies:   Paladin_HGWT
Paladin_HGWT ๐Ÿšซ

@Michael Loucks

In every state in the USA abortion is allowed to save the life of the mother.

Further more the numbers of abortions have been declining in the USA for a couple of decades.

One significant reason for the decline of abortions is the increasing use of "abortafacients" such as "Plan B" almost exclusively in the first trimester (and often in the first 45 days).

While some states have restricted over the counter sales of abortafacients; there are no effective restrictions on their use.

Replies:   Michael Loucks
Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ
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@Paladin_HGWT

In every state in the USA abortion is allowed to save the life of the mother.

My comments were in reference to adding to Joy's correction of a previous poster, and to show he was incorrect by any measure, and not an exhaustive answer.

Replies:   Paladin_HGWT
Paladin_HGWT ๐Ÿšซ

@Michael Loucks

Dear Michael Loucks,

I didn't mean to imply anything to your comment. Your comment seemed to be the best location for me to insert my comment.

You frequently post cogent comments. I was as much agreeing with you, as anything.

Comments in the forum, email, and other electronic media can often be misinterpreted.

I apologize if I gave offense.

Cheers! ๐Ÿป

Replies:   Michael Loucks
Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ

@Paladin_HGWT

No harm done! :-)

irvmull ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

There's "suspension of disbelief", and then there's hanging it by the neck until dead.

Sorry but this story idea quickly falls into the second category.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@irvmull

There's "suspension of disbelief", and then there's hanging it by the neck until dead.

Sorry but this story idea quickly falls into the second category.

What, it's not dropping it in an active volcano?

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

I vaguely remember another clones v originals scenario. It was in the Matt Smith era of Dr Who. IIRC the clones were called gangers and were grown to work in appalling conditions in mines. Somehow they ended up as perfect replicas of the human staff, with all their knowledge and memories, and they revolted over their treatment as inferiors. Unfortunately I can't remember the resolution.

AJ

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