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Freyrs_stories ๐Ÿšซ

I know most of the users are US and they use m/d/y but the vast majority of the world use d/m/y.

would it be a huge inconvenience to ask that dates be displayed y/m/d? it takes a little mental gymnastics to convert the US dates each time I read them.

Just a polite request.

Michael Loucks ๐Ÿšซ

@Freyrs_stories

My druthers would be for YYYY-MM-DD. That's especially handy for filenames and sorting, and is also very clear visually.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater  Keet
Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

@Michael Loucks

My druthers would be for YYYY-MM-DD. That's especially handy for filenames and sorting, and is also very clear visually.

it's also the recommended international medical system now.

Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@Michael Loucks

My druthers would be for YYYY-MM-DD. That's especially handy for filenames and sorting, and is also very clear visually.

The absolute most logical and readable way. I always configure my systems with the US language but with my Dutch location so I get the correct time and formatting. This sometimes gives some interesting display differences between applications depending what they take as the lead for formatting dates.

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Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

About 15 or so years ago I learned that the medical profession had switched their dating system around as part of a new international standard to be YYYY-MM-DD as part of an increase in privacy. While anyone can look up your name you run into issue with people of the same name and get some mix ups etc. So they now file patient files by YYYY-MM-DD then alphabetical on surname followed by alphabetical on first name. While you may end up with a few dozen clients named John Smith the odds of two of them having the exact same date of birth are exceedingly low. Less chance for file mixing and a better security as you need to know the person's d.o.b. before you go looking for their file.

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Not_a_ID ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

While you may end up with a few dozen clients named John Smith the odds of two of them having the exact same date of birth are exceedingly low.

I knew someone who has/had a first cousin that shares both his full name, and date of birth.

StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

@Not_a_ID

Just because the odds are low doesn't mean it doesn't happen, it's just unlikely is all.

Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

@Not_a_ID

I knew someone who has/had a first cousin that shares both his full name, and date of birth.

Can happen, and it can happen that unrelated people have the same name and date of birth, but it's a much lower level of probability than people just having the same name.

There are many thousands of people who have joined the 'John Smith Association' and it's believed the majority of people entitled to join don't. To be a member you have to prove your birth certificate says your name is John Smith and you have no middle name while your father's family name was Smith as well. They also have many members who celebrate their birthday on the same day of the same month, I bet they have damn few who also have the same year.

Replies:   Keet  awnlee jawking
Keet ๐Ÿšซ
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@Ernest Bywater

They also have many members who celebrate their birthday on the same day of the same month, I bet they have damn few who also have the same year.

Me and my brother have the same birthday, not the same birth year though.

ETA: I forgot to mention that my grandfather had that same birthday too. He died a long time ago but I remember us three celebrating our birthdays on the same day.

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Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

Me and my brother have the same birthday, not the same birth year though.

and that's why the first set of figures is the year - there's no way your files would be near each other due to the different year.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

Can happen, and it can happen that unrelated people have the same name and date of birth, but it's a much lower level of probability than people just having the same name.

I overheard the consequences of one such clash while in my doctor's waiting room. The patient who found out he had such a 'twin' bore the first name Mohammed.

AJ

madnige ๐Ÿšซ
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@Freyrs_stories

would it be a huge inconvenience to ask that dates be displayed y/m/d?

The date I see for your post is 14/09/2021, 12:19:20, dd/mm/yyyy, not m/d/y.

Most dates on the site are displayed in your system-set format by Javascript, e.g. the date of your post has code:

< script>tstamp = new Date(1631618360000);document.write(tstamp.toLocaleString());14/09/2021, 12:19:20< noscript>2021-09-14 7:09:20am

which you can see by selecting it and r.click-'View Selection Source' or similar. So, for the majority of dates on the site, you have control, you'll just have to look up how to change the format (which will probably change the date format for many thing in your computer). This mechanism is defeated if you have javascript disabled in your browser; then, the alternative date format '14/09/2021, 12:19:20' [*] is not overwritten by your local format, so try enabling javascript on the site (it's needed for voting for stories as well).

[*] This is the value after overwrite; to see what the non-overwritten value is, try disabling Javascript, reloading and then examining it, or downloading the page with wget/curl or a download manager. Note that the displayed value with Javascript disabled is the site time, EST/EDT, in a format similar to ISO 8601, but with 12h times and am/pm, that is, yyyy-mm-dd.

There are a couple of dates without timestamps which cannot be handled by the toLocaleString() javascript function; one is the chapter post/update date in the columns of the [More Info] pages (only premier users get to see that link), but I'm sure Lazeez would use a similar mechanism for that if there were a date-only function (or maybe not; his page layout would be wrecked by a user date format of 'Tuesday of week 37, the 14th of September, 2021 AD'. Note that the date-only displays are in EST/EDT and not necessarily the same date as your local time would show, but most postings/updates happen early enough in the day for Europe and western Asia to be the same date. These are displayed as yyyy-mm-dd anyway.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@madnige

Lazeez would use a similar mechanism for that if there were a date-only function

There is. I switched the more info page to it. The site's code is so vast that it's hard to remember where there is no javascript date conversion yet.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Freyrs_stories

Bearing in mind the raison d'etre of SOL, a more appropriate universal date sequence might be.

1. Coffee and a kiss on the cheek.
2. A meal and french kissing.
3. A movie and a meal and some bare breast fondling.
4. A day out followed by 69ing.
5. A weekend away and full intercourse.
6. Thanksgiving Dinner followed by anal.
7. Christmas dinner followed by a threesome including her younger sister.

etc

AJ

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