Some time today, the pages for New Stories and Updates have become squeezed into the middle of the page, and the settings make no difference (detect page etc). Using Edge Legacy.
Happens on FF 76.01 and Chrome 81.0.4044.113 as well.
OldMalden
Pretty much all the story listing pages have narrowed; Stories Accessed, New Stories, Updates, Authors, Alphabetical, Reviews, Blogs, Contests.
WF Current/Classic and MS Edge Chromium
I use FF on Zorin Linux as my main browser and all is well there. However, I also have Chromium on the system for a backup browser for certain site and both have 20% of the screen on either side of the list as blank space on both of the lists mentioned. However, if I change the browser screen size the size of the space on the sides adjust and can vanish or grow bigger, the same is true if I adjust the browser display setting up or down from 100% . The same also happens if I change the font size in the settings and then refresh the page, or change the browser font size.
I would check the browser display size and font size if I were you, then try the site font size settings again.
I also spontaneously had this issue happen today without changing anything on my end. I've tried to adjust font size and browser display size but can't seem to put the pages back how they were.
Using Firefox in Windows
Some time today, the pages for New Stories and Updates have become squeezed into the middle of the page
Stylesheet changes to harmonize the various themes.
The max width is now 80em or about 120 characters. It may looks narrow on very large or wide monitors, but themes other than the classic one became wider on most screens. 120 characters is more than wide enough for most reading purposes.
The max width is now 80em or about 120 characters. It may looks narrow on very large or wide monitors, but themes other than the classic one became wider on most screens.
Even with a wide screen, it doesn't look so narrow if you up the font size in your account settings to compensate for not so great eyesight.
Stylesheet changes to harmonize the various themes.
Could you not offer it as a %age width choice in the user profile settings, that way everyone could choose their own preferences?
Could you not offer it as a %age width choice in the user profile settings
You can control the font size in your user profile. That has the same effect.
You can control the font size in your user profile. That has the same effect.
Not in classic mode. The text gets larger, the column width remains the same.
Not in classic mode. The text gets larger, the column width remains the same.
This is not true. I use clasic myself. The column width is defined in EMs which is relative to the font size.
This is not true.
Ok, explain this.
1. Lazeez posted, and you presumably read, as you replied;
It may looks narrow on very large or wide monitors, but themes other than the classic one became wider on most screens.
2. In classic mode, if you set the font to 12, measure the column width, change font to 24, measure again, no significant change, except now only one or two words per line and you need to scroll right to read it, and to read the stat columns. Not exactly user friendly.
In classic mode, if you set the font to 12, measure the column width, change font to 24, measure again, no significant change, except now only one or two words per line and you need to scroll right to read it, and to read the stat columns. Not exactly user friendly.
I use the classic theme on a wide screen monitor. If I increase the font size the whole column gets wider.
It may be important to note that I am adjusting the font size in my SOL account settings, not the browser settings.
In classic mode, if you set the font to 12, measure the column width, change font to 24, measure again, no significant change
Not true.
Check out the following images. One is my monitor showing the site in classic theme at 13pt font size and the second is at 24pt font size.
Notice the site's logo for reference:
https://res.wlpc.com/img/aa/misc/screen-32-13-classic.jpg
https://res.wlpc.com/img/aa/misc/screen-32-24-classic.jpg
Check out the following images. One is my monitor showing the site in classic theme at 13pt font size and the second is at 24pt font size.
Try that on a MacBook Pro with 15.4 inch screen (2880 x 1800)
I can send you screen grabs if you like...?
Try that on a MacBook Pro with 15.4 inch screen
What browser are you using? Are you changing the font size in the browser's settings or in your SOL account settings?
Try that on a MacBook Pro with 15.4 inch screen (2880 x 1800)
I can send you screen grabs if you like...?
Are you telling me that on the MacBook the table stays narrow, and smaller than the full window width if you increase the font size?
If so, send me screen shots, I'll try to figure out what's going on with the MacBook retina thing. I may need to change the style.
You can control the font size in your user profile. That has the same effect.
I'm happy with my font size, just that it only uses about 25% of the screen width.
I'm happy with my font size, just that it only uses about 25% of the screen width.
For 80em to be 25% of your screen width, it means that you have something like 32" monitor.
I can understand wanting to go full screen on something that large for images/maps/video, but text? doesn't make sense; really long lines make it difficult to find the beginning of the next line.
The human eye is most comfortable at 35em for reading. That's why I set the default for stories at that width.
All sites that display text contents mainly, restrict the width of the display area.
Not on mobile since update
We are talking about how to make adjustments for a large wide screen monitor, so not mobile.
Thanks, understood. Mobile reading issues are mostly resoloved (home page just weird will get used to eventually) but the customise controls you use are the one I was using for reader that were not working as intended... but are now! CSS gremlin.
Myth
Yes, I saw this also. On a 2560 x 1600 screen this loses quite a bit of real estate. Would it be possible to have a new 'Classic - wide' theme? I do not know how complicated this would be to implement, of course.
Yes, I saw this also. On a 2560 x 1600 screen this loses quite a bit of real estate.
The EM measurement is relative to font size. It will pick up quite a bit of screen real estate if you go into your account settings and increase the font size.
I am aware of this. However, this will not accomplish what I am after as the amount of information will stay the same.
With the previous layout, one got a greater number of lines on screen because the paragraphs extended almost all the way across my usual 2300px wide window.
What was wrong with the way it was? .. now there's a lot more scrolling to do .. I'm glad that the story pages are still totally selectable.
Can't it be set to a percentage width like the story pages?
Can't it be set to a percentage width like the story pages?
It could but wouldn't fit a generic purpose, not every one has the same size and resolution for his screen.
As Dominion Son said, the em metric scales perfectly so that's the metric to use. Most monitors today are to wide to view a browser full-screen anyway.
I think it is the rare bird that doesn't have a wide-screen monitor (or TV being used as a monitor) these days. I don't believe any laptops ship with the narrower aspect ratio screens anymore and I don't know it if is even possible to get a native 4:9 monitor outside of industrial (PointOfSale) uses.
Still, while it contributes to the aged look of the site, it is no skin off my nose either way. I imagine it probably looks okay on mobiles.
I think it is the rare bird that doesn't have a wide-screen monitor
Personally, I think the issue is coming up with a site appearance that fits both modern widescreen monitors and those small mobile devices that so many people think are better than a monitor.
Personally, I think the issue is coming up with a site appearance that fits both modern widescreen monitors and those small mobile devices that so many people think are better than a monitor.
Partly. Modern designs are mobile-first meaning that a site is designed for mobile first but it scales up if there's more screen estate available. At the same time the maximum width is limited on bigger screens because a site would be unreadable if it spreads to the full width of a wide screen monitor. Look at a dozen well designed sites and you will see that all of them scale up if you widen your browser window but only up to a maximum that is pleasantly to look at. For SOL a full redesign with mobile first is unlikely because it's such a huge job but if you look at the ReaderInfo.net site you can see what I described when you widen and shrink the browser window width. I'm using the classic theme for SOL but I will take a look at the other themes to see what the fuss is all about ;)
I think it is the rare bird that doesn't have a wide-screen monitor (or TV being used as a monitor) these days.
(Insert here the sound of a dodo)
AJ
Insert here the sound of a dodo
The sound of an extinct bird? Is that supposed to be like the sound of one hand clapping?
dodo
do - do sounds like what comes out of an anus.
Do do that do-do that you do so well.
Some of us do not read sitting at desk! I can't sit for long so read on mobile and it is now an unpleasant experience with the blue colour sidebars forced on me (I read white text on black background) and text squeezed into small centre column.
win 10 edge dell 15" laptop
format classic
font 24
sizing auto
display 10 stories per page
Display magnification set to 175%
never noticed a change on any screen
never noticed a change on any screen
You would have to use two different font sizes to see the difference.
24pt seems like an awful large font size, especially if you are using 175% magnification on the browser on top of it
Screen sits 3 to 4 feet away to help with vision issues. This is what is comfortable for me.
Screen sits 3 to 4 feet away to help with vision issues.
I have the opposite problem. Without my glasses at that distance I would barely be able to tell that the screen was there much less read anything on it.
My vision without my glasses is somewhere north of 20/400. That's as far as the optometrist's eye chart went. It was one "E" 7 or 8 inches high and I couldn't read it without my glasses.
