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Naked in School: Starfleet Academy

Eddie Davidson ๐Ÿšซ

What if, All first year ensigns must attend class in the nude. The idea is to teach them to adapt and overcome as well as adopt healthy attitudes about nudity. "You may find yourself in alien cultures where nudity is perfectly acceptable and expected. The Ryzalian culture considers masturbation to be such a normal bodily function that they perform it during dinner at the table and would be shocked if anyone in the family felt the need to hide while they do it. They consider that perversion."

The story begins with Deanna Troi and Ryker dropping their daughter off at the academy. Natasha Miana Riker-Troi is a partial empath so she knows exactly what boys are thinking when they look at her.

She forms a friendship with another girl who says "You are lucky, at least your brother isn't also in starfleet. I hate it when Jeb looks at me."

Natasha assures her that Jeb isn't thinking dirty thoughts when he looks at his sister but he totally is.

The story follows their adventures and training exercises as they report for duty in the nude.

Replies:   StarFleet Carl
StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ
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@Eddie Davidson

Since Deana is Betazoid, her daughter wouldn't have any issues being nude. That's part of their marriage ritual, where both the bride and groom are nude.

Also, keep in mind that clothes aren't just to cover the naughty bits. In this case, it's an actual uniform, as StarFleet is still a quasi-military organization. That means that uniforms are part of it - you wear them because while everyone's body is different, when you're in that uniform, everyone else in that uniform is your brother or sister.

And the OTHER detail is that there ARE alien races that are members of the United Federation of Planets that have certain body codes that they could NOT send cadets to the Academy if they required nudity. (They wouldn't be first year ensigns at the Academy, they'd be cadets. Ensign is an actual officers rank, the equivalent of Second Lieutenant in Star Fleet Ground Forces.)

ETA: In searching my databanks, I find no mention of a Ryzalian culture. The closest is the Risian, which are the inhabitants of what is considered a pleasure planet, but do not practice public masturbation.

Replies:   Not_a_ID  Mushroom
Not_a_ID ๐Ÿšซ
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@StarFleet Carl

Since Deana is Betazoid, her daughter wouldn't have any issues being nude. That's part of their marriage ritual, where both the bride and groom are nude.

IIRC, Nudity in general is very common on Betazed as well, so it isn't just at the weddings.

Something about being a planet full of telepaths, there is no point in trying to hide things.

Really, if Star Trek had been produced for HBO instead of broadcast television, you'd probably have at least a couple human colonies that would alternately be populated by either nudists or hedonists.... But well, you can't show that on television, and just discussing Betazoid culture in the 1990's was pushing limits.

That and well, everything about Gene Roddenberry reflects the matter that the guy was both a cad, and a "free love" kind of guy even into the 1990's. I still recall the interview where he lamented that he wasn't gay and thus unable to appreciate what that was like.

Mushroom ๐Ÿšซ

@StarFleet Carl

Also, keep in mind that clothes aren't just to cover the naughty bits. In this case, it's an actual uniform, as StarFleet is still a quasi-military organization. That means that uniforms are part of it - you wear them because while everyone's body is different, when you're in that uniform, everyone else in that uniform is your brother or sister.

Also a uniform is a lot more than that.

It tells people your job, it tells people your rank, it can even tell people what you do.

Star Trek has had all of this. The colors changed over time, but the color always told people what part of the ship you worked for. In TOS, if somebody in red entered your work area, you let them be because that was security (changed to Yellow in TNG). In STTWOK, Engineering was obvious because they wore those white "ski suits" with the filtration system built in.

Through each iteration of Trek, the uniforms told a lot. Of course, Gene was a Navy vet so he understood that. As the decades went on, the uniforms got more "generic", but the old ones actually told a hell of a lot if you knew how to look at them.

Of course, today that is all lost. The uniforms in each following generation had been "dumbed down" dramatically.

Gold for "Command", Red for "Operations", Blue for "Sciences". Rank on the lower sleeve.

But the patch, oh-boy. The "Triangle" most are familiar with now was the "ship patch", specific to the Enterprise, and that ship alone. All other ships and assignments had their own shape. And in TOS there used to be a symbol inside that patch to show where in the department you worked.

Today, that triangle has been retconned to be the "Starfleet Symbol". And the uniforms are just generic props now, with none of the iconography they once had.

Replies:   Dominions Son  Not_a_ID
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Mushroom

In TOS, if somebody in red entered your work area, you let them be because that was security

In TOS, red was operations, which included both security and engineering. Blue was sciences, including medical, and yellow/gold was command. TNG swapped colors between operations and command.

Not_a_ID ๐Ÿšซ
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@Mushroom

Through each iteration of Trek, the uniforms told a lot. Of course, Gene was a Navy vet so he understood that. As the decades went on, the uniforms got more "generic", but the old ones actually told a hell of a lot if you knew how to look at them.

Gene was Army.

And the Navy working uniforms actually divulge little more than rank. Of course, their telling you their rate will fill in a lot of blanks, but you'll need to be told that.

Of course, I only served on a ship with a crew of about 300 people(which would be about in line with Kirk-era Enterprise in TOS) and generally people working in a particular department within the ship would know of everyone else in it to a fair degree. At that kind of crew size most of the crew would also be aware of most other people on the ship's crew as well unless they were new. It's basically like living in a small town or attending a smallish secondary level school in a lot of ways. (For the school analogy just swap "department" with grade level and the rest mostly takes care of itself.)

And you don't need full body coverage, or even "naughty bit coverage" to have something on you that can communicate rank and/or function on the ship should you decide to have a uniform that does convey function.

Replies:   Mushroom
Mushroom ๐Ÿšซ

@Not_a_ID

Gene was Army.

And the Navy working uniforms actually divulge little more than rank. Of course, their telling you their rate will fill in a lot of blanks, but you'll need to be told that.

Yes, I stand corrected. He was in the Army.

And they actually do. I can tell the difference between an HM3, an AO3 and an QM3. Now I was never in the Navy, but as a Marine I worked closely with them and got to know quite a few of their ranks and ratings (and what the badges inside the rank meant). And even why some wear red chevrons, and others wear gold chevrons.

This is why in TOS, you had a smaller badge inside of the large one. It is the future equivalent of the "rating" of the Navy. But simplified. At that time there were still a lot of WWII vets involved in TV production.

Replies:   Not_a_ID
Not_a_ID ๐Ÿšซ
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@Mushroom

And they actually do. I can tell the difference between an HM3, an AO3 and an QM3. Now I was never in the Navy, but as a Marine I worked closely with them and got to know quite a few of their ranks and ratings (and what the badges inside the rank meant). And even why some wear red chevrons, and others wear gold chevrons.

That is stuff you only see in their dress uniforms. Or the "working" equivalent of the dress uniform, something you'd only see Navy personnel wearing when working in an ("white collar") office billet where they're being image conscious.

On ship(excepting the quarterdeck watches or ceremonial functions), or most of the "working" (blue-collar) shore-duty posts they're going be in either their utility uniform(or whatever they call the BDU equivalent they started using after I got out) or in coveralls.

The Utility uniform only had "the Crow and chevrons" on it(plus any applicable warfare pins), and came in one color, black. If you were a "french fry" you didn't wear anything on your sleeve. E-7 and above were stuck in khakis though, but even for them, you'd only see their anchors on their collar, no indication of rating unless they were wearing a name-badge and you were close enough to read it.

If they were in coveralls, you had rank insignia on the collars for E-4 and above, but the french-fries are out of luck once more, no insignia. But in a change of pace, IIRC, they could have red or gold chevrons on the coveralls--it's been a number of years so memory is fogging up a bit over time on that part. Remembering which uniform items used pins, which ones had patches sewn on, etc.
(edit: I think Laz will allow this outside link, as I'm not linking another story site:
https://www.usamm.com/products/navy-coverall-collar-insig-rank
Yup, the above is a site with a catalogue for the Navy rank insignia for the Navy Coveralls. Notice the rating symbol is absent.)

Ostensibly, part of that is to make sure that in the event of an abandoned ship or a captured ship, it provides some obscurity as to what roles certain people performed on the ship(obviously more challenging on a ship capture).. As they'd likely be in either coveralls or the working uniform which doesn't have rating insignia, only rank. Which is where "Name, Rank, and serial number" becomes fun for the sailors, as their rate is only associated with their rank, but not the rank itself.

joyR ๐Ÿšซ

Leaving aside the whole copyright issue. How badly do you have to screw up another authors work before it is no longer theft but actually counts as an original story/world..??

Just a thought.

Mushroom ๐Ÿšซ
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But back to the original topic.

I think you will find that most authors prefer to create their "own universes", rather than just copy the ideas and works of another.

Now some of us may farm other "universes" for ideas, but we still generally prefer to do them in out own way. I make no attempt to hide that my "Night of Madness" series (BOHICA and Dire Wolf) is highly influenced by DC and Marvel (with a touch of Heroes). But it is entirely my own, and I even take some swipes at the others.

I have considered writing "FanFic", I even tried writing a few at times. I even started to write an erotic FanFic of "Toy Story" once, but finally just gave it up. The same when I tried to do one with "Galaxy Quest" and "Wild Wild West". The constraint of working with characters and universe not my own was frustrating, as I was finding I had to keep them as written, and not how I would have done them myself.

That is why I long ago decided I would not try to do so again. And I would not be surprised if most feel the same.

Eddie Davidson ๐Ÿšซ
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A lot of great comments here - rather than quote I'll just list my responses to the overall themes.

1. Maybe they have armbands to indicate branch or everything you need to know on the triangle that she has to wear slightly above her nipple which functions as a combadge

2. The parents may have healthy opinions about nudity which is why they signed her up for the program. growing up isolated on a planet, she may however have developed her own opinions about being exposed and vulnerable

3. Star trek fanfic is probably one of the most prolific kinds of fanfic on the internet. I don't think I'm off base. If you felt weird about using it, call it the galactic union or something The way Seth MacFarlane did with the Orwell. It's basically Star Trek.

4. Doesn't have to be ryker's daughter as the main character. It could be Wesley crusher and his fellow classmates in Tng or entirely new characters

5. I love the creativity.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Eddie Davidson

slightly above her nipple which functions as a combadge

Her nipple functions as a combadge?

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Her nipple functions as a combadge?

And if you lose your voice, you can send morse code using a tongue (or fingers, etc).

AJ

Eddie Davidson ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Yeah, that's why I keep tapping it.

"That's not a combadge, Ensign"

"Oh, sorry Admiral"

;)

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ
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@Eddie Davidson

Yeah, that's why I keep tapping it.

You shouldn't be trying to tap the Admiral's combadge.

Congratulations on becoming the first Starfleet Ensign to get keel hauled.

Replies:   Eddie Davidson  Not_a_ID
Eddie Davidson ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

I watched Lower Decks on CBS last week and all I could picture was the Ensigns naked while on away missions.

"Stop poking my butthole with the tip of your phaser"

"Sorry, but that's not my phaser"

Not_a_ID ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Congratulations on becoming the first Starfleet Ensign to get keel hauled.

Getting keel hauled on a starship just doesn't have the outcome, unless you're doing it without a suit, or atmosphere. Although that sounds lethal for another reason.

It was the combination of being forced underwater as they passed under the ship(risk of drowning), and rubbing against the barnacles on the hull of the ship(which would shred skin) that made it so terrifying. As your odds of surviving that still wasn't very good, probably wouldn't be very good even now, unless the hull had been cleaned reasonably recently.

Replies:   Mushroom
Mushroom ๐Ÿšซ

@Not_a_ID

It was the combination of being forced underwater as they passed under the ship(risk of drowning), and rubbing against the barnacles on the hull of the ship(which would shred skin) that made it so terrifying. As your odds of surviving that still wasn't very good, probably wouldn't be very good even now, unless the hull had been cleaned reasonably recently.

It also took 2 different forms.

As a form of strong punishment, more severe than a simple whipping but not deserving death, it was often used. But then, the subject was run from side to side, a relatively short trip which resulted in lacerations, but was normally survived. The Dutch Navy loved this technique, and sometimes even punished offenders to a "gauntlet" of being passed under the ship twice.

The most extreme was bow to stern, where they passed under the entire length of the ship. That one was generally fatal, and really only used when simple execution was not seen as "severe enough".

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